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Hello all anyone out there doing hydro grows? i am looking to get some advice on PH level for flowering i just went to 12/12 5 days in now and was wondering if the PH level should be a bit higher for flowering than it was for veg. currently i keep it right at 6.0 or little bit under as it raises and stabilizes on its own check out my grow thread link is in signature for more info any suggestions or advice welcome Later all and many an awesome blossom

hi. I was wondering if you think any of the links below are a good idea for odor control? I happened upon these at home depot. They are supposed to eliminate odor and are the right light for indoor growth. I am using t5's and cfls currently so this switch would literally be as easy as changing a lightbulb. Anyone who has used these or has an opinion would be greatly appreciated. I have also found another product called gonzo odor elimiators for home. I would also like feedback for this product if it has been used. I need cheap, efficient solutions to control odor of about 10 plants...any suggestions, comments, opinions would be useful. thanks guys.
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Growing isn't cheap.

That bulb and the activated charcoal would help, but they are not the solution to your problem.

The only inexpensive and effective method I know of is using Ona. Look the stuff up, I use a block in my room and it does a very good job of creating a pleasant smell. I use a carbon filter, so I don't really need the Ona, but it gives me peace of mind.

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Looking very good NormaJean!

Now, don't take this advice... I'm just rambling and I'm probably wrong...

The lushness of your leaves is intense. That kind of deep, dark, green can sometimes be an indicator of an underlying issue. The cold weather of autumn causes phosphorus to be locked out which causes the leaves to change color. Mix a little standard green with a little violet and you get a very dark, deep, lush green color.

So, what I'm trying to say is that you should keep your eyes open for is a little nitrogen excess and phosphorus deficiency. An imbalance of these element's ratio could be nitpicking, but it might make a difference in the final harvest. The deep green color could be an indicator that these elements are not in the proper balance.

Then again, it could be the lighting, or the camera, or just the particular strain. So take that advice with a grain of salt. You should be increasing the phosphorus anyway in about a week, and dialing back on the nitrogen in order to keep your EC from skyrocketing and then burning your plants with toxicity. So... Either way, a little less N, a little more P, maybe sooner than later.

Many growers, myself included, run veg nutes through the 3rd, and even 4th, weeks of flowering. Every plant, every media, and every grow room is going to be different though and you can use this as a learning experience mostly. Don't change anything yet (if it ain't broken...) just ride this pony for a while and keep your eyes peeled for any leaf curl (eagle claw) or an even deeper darkening of the leaves to the point they are practically blue.

To give you an idea of what I'm talking about:


Can you see how the larger, outer most, leaves on this plant are practically blue? This is an indication of an imbalance of N in the ratio. This plant needed more P, less N, than the counterpart Blue Mystics beside it. Just another proof that one plant is not every plant and there is no "way" to do things. Your way is the best way, so just keep educating yourself, and then ask here before you apply that knowledge. Ask first and shoot later.

How and when do I flush my babies?

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Have a 600 can't wait till it comes

Flush in the last 10 to 7 days of life before harvest.

Do so by running copious amounts of clean water through the media. Generally, 3 gallons of water per gallon of media is considered a flush. You can use as much water as you want, the more the better.

If you cannot manage the run off as it drains then you will probably need to take your plants to the bathtub to allow it all to drain away.

I personally will be rinsing my media over the course of about 2 weeks rather than flushing it. Rinsing is done by gathering 1/2 to 2/3 of what was used to water the plant draining out as run off. If I used 2 gallons of water into the media, then I'd want at least 1 gallon draining from it if not more. I will begin this about 14 days before my anticipated harvest and continue to use only water until they are completed (even if it takes more than 14 days).

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Really sparse internodal branching. That 600w system will help.

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They look ready to me once you get the 600W up & running.
Daniels

Im concerned about my nutes that are being used. The nutes being used are Peruvian Seabirb Guano 10-10-2. Its mixed like a tea with water straight from the tap. Is this ok to be using on ladies in there 3rd week of flower and what about the kids that are in there 3rd week of veg? any advice or help would be great. Thank you in advance.These are all auto's by the way

anyone have any idea whats wrong with this plant? the strain is Mother ship and it might just look like that. I grew it from seed out of a bag i got at a dispensary in CA . its real good stuff not a great yealder, but smokes smooth and has a very skunky aroma, but it looks weird. i vegg for about a week out of the clone bucket under a T-5. then it goes under a 600 about 2-3 foot away for 2 more weeks in a 5x4 room . temps are 76 in the day 64 at night. RH is 45% most of the time. the intake air is coming from outside the house and vents into another room via 190 cfm inline fan. i use the full line of ionic nutes. my water is city water but i put a filter on it to take out the chlorine and sediment. then i let it sit in a water drum with air stones and a water pump and let it sit for at least a day. i grow in pro-mix and my water ph is roughly 5.8-6.5 my Buddie is also growing the same stuff with the full line of fox farm, and his looks the same way, and all the clones look like that. so is there something wrong with it or not? sorry the second pic isn't that good.

Daehtop king said:

anyone have any idea whats wrong with this plant? the strain is Mother ship and it might just look like that. I grew it from seed out of a bag i got at a dispensary in CA . its real good stuff not a great yealder, but smokes smooth and has a very skunky aroma, but it looks weird. i vegg for about a week out of the clone bucket under a T-5. then it goes under a 600 about 2-3 foot away for 2 more weeks in a 5x4 room . temps are 76 in the day 64 at night. RH is 45% most of the time. the intake air is coming from outside the house and vents into another room via 190 cfm inline fan. i use the full line of ionic nutes. my water is city water but i put a filter on it to take out the chlorine and sediment. then i let it sit in a water drum with air stones and a water pump and let it sit for at least a day. i grow in pro-mix and my water ph is roughly 5.8-6.5 my Buddie is also growing the same stuff with the full line of fox farm, and his looks the same way, and all the clones look like that. so is there something wrong with it or not? sorry the second pic isn't that good.

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Well, the first instinct for me is pH issues. Being that you included zero information regarding pH or ppm... I assume you're not controlling these. If you were, I cannot comprehend why you'd leave something as vital as pH out of your post (aside from forgetfulness).

Ionic doesn't list their Cal-Mag percentages, so if it isn't pH related it is either the soil being too hot or a Cal-Mag issue.
Fox Farms Grow Big has basically no Calcium in it, which is why I think the problem could be related to the micro-nutrient buffer as you saw that you've recently begun filtering your water.

Dial in the pH at 6.5 to 7.0, top dress with some dolomite lime if you didn't include any when preparing the soil. Get lots of run off. Don't foliar feed. They should work it out in time. Could just be stress related going from an aero-cloner to soil.

i have a ph meter but no ppm i keep the ph at 5.8-6.5 ionic says between 5.8-6.5 . i have been useing cal-mag. forgot to add that also. that is the mother grown from seed in that pic one is obviosly a real young pic and the other is the same plant a couple months old. now you said something about my soil might be hot. ill look into that. but all the other strains around it look great. thanks for the feedback

Soil pH is between 6.5 and 7.0. Hydro pH is between 5.5 and 6.0.

Sounds like they are telling you to aim for somewhere between that.

You should know exactly what your pH is every time. Not a range of 0.7! I'm talking, every time, exactly this level.

The difference between 5.8 and 6.5 is HUGE! You can't just ball park it for very long in soil.

If it were my grow I'd be using nothing but a 6.5 pH, exactly 6.5, every feeding and watering.

If you enjoy using non-organic nutrients in a media I'd have to suggest you stop growing in soil. Use coco or peat moss. Organics should be treated properly and you're dumping in element salts that, sure, your plant can use, but effectively killing the micro-organisms in the soil and rendering it no different than any other media devoid of organics.

A 6.5 pH is a healthy spot for your microbes to survive in. They will help process your salts and aid in the uptake of nutrition.

Otherwise, you may as well use a soil-less mixture that is designed for your hydroponic nutrient system.

Snow Crash said:

Soil pH is between 6.5 and 7.0. Hydro pH is between 5.5 and 6.0.

Sounds like they are telling you to aim for somewhere between that.

You should know exactly what your pH is every time. Not a range of 0.7! I'm talking, every time, exactly this level.

The difference between 5.8 and 6.5 is HUGE! You can't just ball park it for very long in soil.

If it were my grow I'd be using nothing but a 6.5 pH, exactly 6.5, every feeding and watering.

If you enjoy using non-organic nutrients in a media I'd have to suggest you stop growing in soil. Use coco or peat moss. Organics should be treated properly and you're dumping in element salts that, sure, your plant can use, but effectively killing the micro-organisms in the soil and rendering it no different than any other media devoid of organics.

A 6.5 pH is a healthy spot for your microbes to survive in. They will help process your salts and aid in the uptake of nutrition.

Otherwise, you may as well use a soil-less mixture that is designed for your hydroponic nutrient system.

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pro-mix is a soil-less mix. ill keep my ph more spot on. and ionic has both soil and hydro nutes. ive been using the soil. do you think i should be using the hydro nutes with soil-less mix. i also use nitrozime (marine algae extract) and fossil fuel (humic acid) as ionic calls for. and cal mag. i water once a week with nutes and the rest just water. i never have checked my ppm. but all my other plants look great. do you think that this strain could just look like this or do you think its a deficiency.

Daehtop king said:

pro-mix is a soil-less mix. ill keep my ph more spot on. and ionic has both soil and hydro nutes. ive been using the soil. do you think i should be using the hydro nutes with soil-less mix. i also use nitrozime (marine algae extract) and fossil fuel (humic acid) as ionic calls for. and cal mag. i water once a week with nutes and the rest just water. i never have checked my ppm. but all my other plants look great. do you think that this strain could just look like this or do you think its a deficiency.

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I must have missed the pro-mix part. Sorry, I have a really hard time with solid walls of text that haven't been organized with line breaks to designate important information.

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Anyway, I think you just need to get the pH dialed in better. For the pro-mix I'd probably be running more like 5.8 to 6.0 as the media has historically run acidic. Stick with a good amount of run off and a consistent pH value and things should be fine.

Why are you giving such large ranges of pH? My meter will tell me to the hundredths with accuracy. I can say, with absolute certainty, that my water is between 7.35 and 7.41 pH. You need to be much more concerned about the preciseness of your measuring tools.

I have a problems with my 1st grow leafs turning brown on seedlings with no yellowing. What should I check?

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I have a question....If i have autoflowers in 3 gallon pots of FFOF soil that are 25 days old and look like they're doing well, do I really need nutrients or can I just let them ride out??