Who regulates cannabis nutrients, are they really safe !
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chemphlegm
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cloning gels are PGR's(man made plant growth hormones).
auxins indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) and napthaleneacetic acid (NAA) . They mimic the natural hormone IAA (indole-3-acetic acid), and initiate the formation of a callus, root development.
plants, fungi, algae, willow, yeast, sprout teas, A sprouting seed is packed with abscisic and gibberellic acids, as well as a bunch of other bioactive enzymes and beneficial proteins. growth regulators can be found in natural states with little searching.
auxins indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) and napthaleneacetic acid (NAA) . They mimic the natural hormone IAA (indole-3-acetic acid), and initiate the formation of a callus, root development.
plants, fungi, algae, willow, yeast, sprout teas, A sprouting seed is packed with abscisic and gibberellic acids, as well as a bunch of other bioactive enzymes and beneficial proteins. growth regulators can be found in natural states with little searching.
Yodaweed
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There's PGR's in nature, just crush up some seeds in a blender with water and you got some organic PGR's.
chemphlegm
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when these hormones are synthesized by man they are called PGR's.
Are the natural hormones found in nature also called PGR's ?
Yodaweed
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Hi crazii
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What PGR natural alternatives are there?
So far we have largely discussed synthetic PGRs because at present the vast majority of the market are using these. But are there any natural alternatives out there? When it comes to growing Cannabis and most crops for that matter we have to start with the basics: How can one best mimic mother nature ?. The use of PGRs should be to enhance the genetic potential of a Cannabis plant, so a good start, rather than using synthetic man-made plant hormones (which appear to have the more dangerous effects) is to look at where we may find similar organic compounds naturally.
Derived from chitin this organic molecule is found in the exoskeletons of crustaceans, from Mantis shrimps to Beatles. Chitosan provides structural support in the hard shells of these animals. It is a vastly abundant biodegradable material with a low molecular weight. When chitosan is applied as a foliar or soil drench to plants it has been found to exhibit PGR qualities. Targeting a plant cells plasma membrane and nucleus, chitosan regulates gene expression and other cellular processes.
NASA have also taken interest, experimenting with chitosan to aid plant growth in space! This is because Chitosan has been found to increase photosynthesis, enhance plant growth, stimulate nutrient uptake and aid in seed propagation. Chitosan also has strong anti-pathogenic properties, naturally up-regulating innate defence responses in plants to combat insects, pathogens and soil-borne diseases. Further research has also shown chitosan applications to increase flavonoid and terpenoid production in a variety of resinous plant species.
This plant growth stimulant can be found in a variety of natural sources such as alfalfa meal, sugarcane and bees wax. Triacontanol is a “fatty alcohol” and is sometimes referred to as Melissyl or Myrcicyl alcohol. It is non-toxic, environmentally friendly and safe to consume. Research has shown Triacontanol to be a powerful growth stimulant, effecting basic metabolic processes such as photosynthesis, enzyme activity, nutrient uptake CO2 assimilation and much more. In the correct doses Triacontanol significantly increases the amount of chlorophyll in leaves, improving the rate of photosynthesis. Similarly in root systems cell growth is enhanced creating stronger root networks allowing for greater nutrient uptake. Due to its up-regulating qualities many studies have shown the application of triaconantonl as a foliar feed, increased yields dramaticallycompared to control groups. When applied to mint plants in experiments it has also been found to increase the overall yields and interestingly the mints essential oil content, suggesting similar results could be obtained for Cannabis.
So far we have largely discussed synthetic PGRs because at present the vast majority of the market are using these. But are there any natural alternatives out there? When it comes to growing Cannabis and most crops for that matter we have to start with the basics: How can one best mimic mother nature ?. The use of PGRs should be to enhance the genetic potential of a Cannabis plant, so a good start, rather than using synthetic man-made plant hormones (which appear to have the more dangerous effects) is to look at where we may find similar organic compounds naturally.
Derived from chitin this organic molecule is found in the exoskeletons of crustaceans, from Mantis shrimps to Beatles. Chitosan provides structural support in the hard shells of these animals. It is a vastly abundant biodegradable material with a low molecular weight. When chitosan is applied as a foliar or soil drench to plants it has been found to exhibit PGR qualities. Targeting a plant cells plasma membrane and nucleus, chitosan regulates gene expression and other cellular processes.
NASA have also taken interest, experimenting with chitosan to aid plant growth in space! This is because Chitosan has been found to increase photosynthesis, enhance plant growth, stimulate nutrient uptake and aid in seed propagation. Chitosan also has strong anti-pathogenic properties, naturally up-regulating innate defence responses in plants to combat insects, pathogens and soil-borne diseases. Further research has also shown chitosan applications to increase flavonoid and terpenoid production in a variety of resinous plant species.
This plant growth stimulant can be found in a variety of natural sources such as alfalfa meal, sugarcane and bees wax. Triacontanol is a “fatty alcohol” and is sometimes referred to as Melissyl or Myrcicyl alcohol. It is non-toxic, environmentally friendly and safe to consume. Research has shown Triacontanol to be a powerful growth stimulant, effecting basic metabolic processes such as photosynthesis, enzyme activity, nutrient uptake CO2 assimilation and much more. In the correct doses Triacontanol significantly increases the amount of chlorophyll in leaves, improving the rate of photosynthesis. Similarly in root systems cell growth is enhanced creating stronger root networks allowing for greater nutrient uptake. Due to its up-regulating qualities many studies have shown the application of triaconantonl as a foliar feed, increased yields dramaticallycompared to control groups. When applied to mint plants in experiments it has also been found to increase the overall yields and interestingly the mints essential oil content, suggesting similar results could be obtained for Cannabis.
churchhaze
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stnr420
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Strawberries dont sell for 300$ an ounce...
Illies1982
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I read somewhere An hum. and a couple other nute companies cant think of them owe a few states a good chunk of money. An there products are still on the shelfs. So know one is really regulating. If you have enough money in the USA you can get away with quite a bit.
Hi crazii
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Lol,,,, a lot of people have mentioned about pgr and heavy metals in synthetic fertilisers, that are harmful . State to state and country to country some pgr are banned and some are allowed. Sometimes the banned one in aparticular country will be allowed in another. Some companies can get away with the harmful pgr by saying it's for ornemental plants and some how it ends up in a hydro shop!!!
Hi crazii
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I don't agree, a good grower should value himself to growing the best product possible. You brain and mind will only produce a grade top shelf quality. You thinking of spending or spending a couple hundred of dollars won't make a huge difference in you end product. Environment plays the biggest role. Your nutes will be useless if everything is not failed in properly.
stnr420
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Yes! And when your environment is perfect....and you have top quality genetics...the quality of the chelates makes a difference....actually ...i use an organic base...blue planet farmers pride....great by the way...a little cal mag...a little sugar....my total cost for a single 1000 watt garden....yielding 30-35 oz of primo..... About 50 bucks! Seriously i only use half a liter of each....if that per run....my costs on nutes are very low considering the end result
Hi crazii
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Wow 35 oz of a 1000 watt, What's lights this ??? I know there's some 1000 watt lights that you can push too 1200. So basically your getting a gram a watt. Are your growing in coco?
How long do you veg and flower, and what genetics you rocking, I'm only growing cbd strains know. My brain has had enough. I've got high blood pressure already, and I think too much thc don't work for me know more. Recently people have been pushing the thc too high levels, 5 burns knockout.
Tell me a little bit more lol, how big is your grow tent!
When you say organic base, I kinda got put off straight away. Oh that's just me !
stnr420
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5 x 5 tent....plantmax 1000 super hps...air cooled sun system hood...pro mix hp 5 gal buckets...blue planet farmers pride line....botanicare cal mag....element flower fuel(sparingly)...dinafem big kush and cbd og kush ( at the moment) more to come for sure.... I like pro mix and peat based mixes bc of its high cation exchange ratio....my ppm levels remain lower than most 600-800 at peak.....veg time depends...seeds usually 6 weeks...clones 4-5 strain dependent...9 plants...wall to wall avg 3-4oz per plant
Hi crazii
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I came across another company who offer organic based mineral nutes. Etc. At the end they say we don't use pgr it you will still too ph etc,,,,,
My new set up Will consist off 12 plants similar to yours, and 1200 watt air cooled pure organics. Also I'll use 5 galleon pots, grow tent Size 240 cm by 240 cm.
I'll send a link here for all you guys too see if I could yield high as much 25 zips too 36 zips.
Strains will be
5 plants Blue dream cbd
5 plants Critical mass cbd
Also 2 plants of cbd hash plant
By the way, autoflowers suck
don't use them.
My new set up Will consist off 12 plants similar to yours, and 1200 watt air cooled pure organics. Also I'll use 5 galleon pots, grow tent Size 240 cm by 240 cm.
I'll send a link here for all you guys too see if I could yield high as much 25 zips too 36 zips.
Strains will be
5 plants Blue dream cbd
5 plants Critical mass cbd
Also 2 plants of cbd hash plant
By the way, autoflowers suck
don't use them.
Hi crazii
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Well too some this all up, all nutrients company's well most have too be registered and regulated.
But there's no intention or suggestion they are for cannabis. Hence the reason why every grow shop has gallons and gallons off it. no company will freely admit it's for cannabis either.
So in my perspective I deem all theas chemicals to be highly cautious about when burning the end product. You don't smoke veg or fruits unless your craziii.
Stay safe, and happy,,,, respect too everyone. And sorry if I came across rude to anybody.
But there's no intention or suggestion they are for cannabis. Hence the reason why every grow shop has gallons and gallons off it. no company will freely admit it's for cannabis either.
So in my perspective I deem all theas chemicals to be highly cautious about when burning the end product. You don't smoke veg or fruits unless your craziii.
Stay safe, and happy,,,, respect too everyone. And sorry if I came across rude to anybody.
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