Wholesale cannabis prices hit historic lows in January

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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since1991 said:
Alls I know is if the cannabis plant had a voice and could speak..it would tell us to keep money away from it as far as possible. Whether good or bad...the money we involve into this plant has done nothing but harm. Iam one to talk..as I do this for profit but the righteous thing to do is completely take it off the books and let it grow like the scrubby little plant it always was. No rules. No regulation. None of it. The whole reason we have prohibition..rules.. quasi legality..is because we have been placing a monetary value on this plant. Its ths whole reason there is a problem to begin with. The plant will do just fine...even better...without the money.
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Sure. I want to live in utopia too. But you are forgetting that the breeders and Growers that got the flowers out set the rediculous prices and toxic pot just for profit mostly.

I donate meds for half the price I have paid for many years. And quality I would have paid more for.

The weed I grow and smoke now is way better than the cash cropped stuff I had to smoke all my life.

Except if you go back to the 80’s. Then there was outdoor original skunk and Thai weed. Not over bred yet.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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since1991 said:
Alls I know is if the cannabis plant had a voice and could speak..it would tell us to keep money away from it as far as possible. Whether good or bad...the money we involve into this plant has done nothing but harm. Iam one to talk..as I do this for profit but the righteous thing to do is completely take it off the books and let it grow like the scrubby little plant it always was. No rules. No regulation. None of it. The whole reason we have prohibition..rules.. quasi legality..is because we have been placing a monetary value on this plant. Its ths whole reason there is a problem to begin with. The plant will do just fine...even better...without the money.
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And now you see what kind of smoker and grower i am, the same as what the plant would be if it had a voice.

Well said, i miss us all being of the same opinion.
 
Kingrow1

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MichiganMedGrower said:
So you think being an illegal cash cropper is somehow better for weed than having a legal medical grow? We tend to grow better, cleaner weed in low counts. I have never even needed to use a pesticide yet.

And I dealt with big Growers for decades and most of the weed has contained chemicles and poisons for many years. Regulations are actually cleaning it up chemical product wise.

You are casting an opinion that I feel should be about legal cash crops. Those are the downfall of quality and only exist for profit.
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Im illegal because the man on the hill wont allow free weed, because i wont accept anything less and because god put this herb on our planet for all not to be regulated.

Many greats have echoed this sentiment but it is a long way from what you accepted in legalization. Im not attacking anyone personally but you need to realise that there are a lot of us who just think 'Sellouts'....
 
since1991

since1991

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Ryante55 said:
Black market prices will jump back up. the taxes on bud are ridiculous and all the "top shelf" is mids at best at least thats the case in the bay area. All the good growers aren't legal anymore haha
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Maybe a temporary bump relatively short term. But the overall big picture is cannabis is losing its high ticket price. Every year lower and lower in price. Directly proportional and in relation to its legal status. I predict within 5 to 7 years it will be legal federally & pounds of outdoor will be 4 or 500 or less. 7 to a grand indoor. And this will drop bigtime after 2 or 3 years once federally recreational legal. Try 1 to 3 hundred a pound no matter where its grown. Indoors will be long gone by then. Outside and greenhouse will be it.
 
since1991

since1991

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Kingrow1 said:
Im illegal because the man on the hill wont allow free weed, because i wont accept anything less and because god put this herb on our planet for all not to be regulated.

Many greats have echoed this sentiment but it is a long way from what you accepted in legalization. Im not attacking anyone personally but you need to realise that there are a lot of us who just think 'Sellouts'....
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Yep. The only ones within 10 years who will benefit from legal but regulated and taxed cannabis is Big Ag and the Government. Everyone else....sorry. You had your run.The best growers can get a job for minimum wage packing trucks full of kilos at the shipping docks.
 
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Ryante55

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since1991 said:
Maybe a temporary bump relatively short term. But the overall big picture is cannabis is losing its high ticket price. Every year lower and lower in price. Directly proportional and in relation to its legal status. I predict within 5 to 7 years it will be legal federally & pounds of outdoor will be 4 or 500 or less. 7 to a grand indoor. And this will drop bigtime after 2 or 3 years once federally recreational legal. Try 1 to 3 hundred a pound no matter where its grown. Indoors will be long gone by then. Outside and greenhouse will be it.
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That's already happening lbs of outdoor are going to big buyers and dispensaries that will take them for $400. People are starting to turn all their outdoor into concentrate I predict you won't see outdoor flower on shelves in a year flower will all be greenhouse and indoor. I don't think top shelf indoor will go below 1500 even if indoor went down to 1k you could still turn a profit.
 
Sour Wreck

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Kingrow1 said:
No i blame those that think legalization helped to produce the climate of free weed that we all use to support when in fact it just put more rules and regs on it.

Rules and regs are anti cannabis, we been preaching this for decades but all of a sudden you sell out and glorify your small plant count and legal status, pitifull.
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too many do-gooders in the US to ever let an intoxicant not be regulated.

it's the fake christians, extreme capitalists and the taxman in this country that are responsible.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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Even 35 years ago the big growers in the east called the free the weed folks hippies.

We got big money back then. It is much more fairly priced now.

I have taken as much risk as anyone for our plant. I don’t think it should be free. I think we should be compensated for our time and expense.

I help poor patients regardless all the time. But I could not if I didn’t get paid by others.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Sour Wreck said:
too many do-gooders in the US to ever let an intoxicant not be regulated.

it's the fake christians, extreme capitalists and the taxman in this country that are responsible.
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You gave up taking a stand against them by accepting legal, they dangled a small amount of weed in front of you and you took the bait.

My principles dont allow this thats why i disagree with legal.
 
Splaap

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One thing to be said for legalization is the reduction in violent collateral damage.
I hear some of this "glory days" talk as a glossing over of what we all know to be
the truth. Moving weed back in the day was dangerous. People died. People went
to prison. Lives were drastically changed for the worse. I don't have to ask if you
know of any examples. It may have been fun now that we are the survivors.
Not everybody was. Besides, it makes us sound like a bunch of douche bags.
 
since1991

since1991

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Splaap said:
One thing to be said for legalization is the reduction in violent collateral damage.
I hear some of this "glory days" talk as a glossing over of what we all know to be
the truth. Moving weed back in the day was dangerous. People died. People went
to prison. Lives were drastically changed for the worse. I don't have to ask if you
know of any examples. It may have been fun now that we are the survivors.
Not everybody was. Besides, it makes us sound like a bunch of douche bags.
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No one died around me. The only violence was the law kicking people doors. Sure..people went to prison. It waz highly illegal. They looked at you like you were running a meth lab. We did it anyways. Took our chances and got paid. And fun? More fun than a barrel full of lesbians fun. And I wouldnt change a frikin thing.
 
brewbeer

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As a consumer, I for one am glad for legalization and regulation. I'm looking forward to $100 z's with tax included, readily available in a store, with a variety of selections when it finally arrives. Before legalization, this would have been a pipe dream. Now, it's on the verge of reality. Unfortunate for some growers, but a boon for consumers.
 
since1991

since1991

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brewbeer said:
As a consumer, I for one am glad for legalization and regulation. I'm looking forward to $100 z's with tax included, readily available in a store, with a variety of selections when it finally arrives. Before legalization, this would have been a pipe dream. Now, it's on the verge of reality. Unfortunate for some growers, but a boon for consumers.
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I guess this forum isnt just for pot growers.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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brewbeer said:
As a consumer, I for one am glad for legalization and regulation. I'm looking forward to $100 z's with tax included, readily available in a store, with a variety of selections when it finally arrives. Before legalization, this would have been a pipe dream. Now, it's on the verge of reality. Unfortunate for some growers, but a boon for consumers.
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Consumers that are ok with crappy weed and don’t mind paying for marketing instead of true quality.......

But that’s why we have cheap and expensive beer. Cheap beer is still ok I guess.
 
Flagg420

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vostok said:
this is a valid point

wanting lower prices so your buddies don't get robbed

thats considerate

as we medical growers continue to dumpster dive for our dinner?
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Weed, in all history, with a few very rare exceptions.... has never made anyone rich.

It pays the bills, it breaks you even and leaves you the spending cash you would normally have been spending on your own weed. Unless you got acres of plants, you aint gonna get rich.

Thats the kind of thing actual schedule 1 drugs do.... not pretend ones...

I have recently started growing a few high CBD strains to sell to dispensaries, as the demand for that to real patients is still a stable market... more medicine, less drug... demand isnt as high, but the value doesn't decrease the way the 15% THC stuff is recently...
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Flagg420 said:
Weed, in all history, with a few very rare exceptions.... has never made anyone rich.

It pays the bills, it breaks you even and leaves you the spending cash you would normally have been spending on your own weed. Unless you got acres of plants, you aint gonna get rich.

Thats the kind of thing actual schedule 1 drugs do.... not pretend ones...

I have recently started growing a few high CBD strains to sell to dispensaries, as the demand for that to real patients is still a stable market... more medicine, less drug... demand isnt as high, but the value doesn't decrease the way the 15% THC stuff is recently...
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The Growers on the east coast in the 80’s and 90’s made millions. I remember when it was $5000 a pound shipped out of state for original outdoor grown skunk weed.

It was mob controlled too.
 
brewbeer

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I'd like to grow for myself and my friends and will probably get a grow going once the state vs. Feds thing irons itself out over the next few years. It's still verboten federally and I have a job that has zero tolerance for illegal activity.

Cheap beer is better than no beer.
 
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