Why are my cola leaves wilting? +rep

IAm5toned

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did you take that pic right before lights on?
sometimes they wilt in the dark...
or they could be starting to get thirsty.
i see some curl there on some tips, is it getting hot in there? prolly a combo of all 3 of the above, in my opinion.

could also be a N def tho, it happens in flower
 

drumbum3218

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Because you like cats, and catnip which cats love, is very close to mj. Kidding, I've never grown mj before, but I grow lots of summer garden veggies, and once grew tomatoes (problematically) inside. The biggest problems I had when learning to garden, especially the time inside, was over watering and over fertilzing. Less is more, leave them alone. They will survive a few days without attention. I wouldnt water my cherry tomatoe plants inside until they were completely dried out (or so i learned and they looked droopy like ur pot). one way to tell is to pick the pot up, if its heavy, its still wet so wait, or if you dig your fingers in and its moist, wait. If its too dry to dig ur fingers in, then water.
 

MatanuskaValley

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did you take that pic right before lights on?
sometimes they wilt in the dark...
or they could be starting to get thirsty.
i see some curl there on some tips, is it getting hot in there? prolly a combo of all 3 of the above, in my opinion.

could also be a N def tho, it happens in flower
second day they are wilted.
I hit them hard with flower ferts a couple days ago.
I transplanted to fox farms soil when I transferred to flower 3 weeks ago, my leaves are dark and strong everywhere else.
The lights have been on for 1.5 hours when I took this picture.

thanks for the ideas. +rep
 

MatanuskaValley

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Because you like cats, and catnip which cats love, is very close to mj. Kidding, I've never grown mj before, but I grow lots of summer garden veggies, and once grew tomatoes (problematically) inside. The biggest problems I had when learning to garden, especially the time inside, was over watering and over fertilzing. Less is more, leave them alone. They will survive a few days without attention. I wouldnt water my cherry tomatoe plants inside until they were completely dried out (or so i learned and they looked droopy like ur pot). one way to tell is to pick the pot up, if its heavy, its still wet so wait, or if you dig your fingers in and its moist, wait. If its too dry to dig ur fingers in, then water.
I don't water often but my last water was a heavy feeding, I was thinking of flushing but I agree that the wilting is most likely due to wet soil with heavy ferts... I'm just going to have to hope the leaves don't nute burn I guess.
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IAm5toned

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flush it then, if u think its burn.... if the soil's already saturated then it wont do you any good if its saturated with nutes, youll end up with ph lockout... P-K foods are nasty stuff, you reallly got to be carefull with the concentration levels, i have terrible luck with nutes that arent simple myself lol....
 

JohneyGreenApple

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flush it then, if u think its burn.... if the soil's already saturated then it wont do you any good if its saturated with nutes, youll end up with ph lockout... P-K foods are nasty stuff, you reallly got to be carefull with the concentration levels, i have terrible luck with nutes that arent simple myself lol....
Yeah bro definetly flush them good and then let them dry out good and flush them again, and then let them dry out and then give them a about half strength nutes!
If theres one thing I can tell you that saturated soil in flower is no good, you want to let that top inch or 2 of soil dry out thourougly everytime before watering it again!
Best of luck to you and I hope you get things back in check soon so they get better before they get worse bro!
Keep on growin! The girls look happy!:weed:
 

MatanuskaValley

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flush it then, if u think its burn.... if the soil's already saturated then it wont do you any good if its saturated with nutes, youll end up with ph lockout... P-K foods are nasty stuff, you reallly got to be carefull with the concentration levels, i have terrible luck with nutes that arent simple myself lol....
I did also use HYGROZYME which is supposed to prevent lockout. Maybe day 31 was too early to hit with a chem bloom fert?

I used BLOOM TERRA 11*31*15 @ half strength, mixed with HYGROZYME, half str. cal-mag

I really don't want to flush out those nutes unless I have to what do you think?
 

JohneyGreenApple

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I did also use HYGROZYME which is supposed to prevent lockout. Maybe day 31 was too early to hit with a chem bloom fert?

I used BLOOM TERRA 11*31*15 @ half strength, mixed with HYGROZYME, half str. cal-mag

I really don't want to flush out those nutes unless I have to what do you think?
Was your soil already damp when you fed them?
If so I would want to flush mine out. Otherwise let them go a day and see if they perk back up and then go from there!
I too use hydrozme!
 

MatanuskaValley

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Was your soil already damp when you fed them?
If so I would want to flush mine out. Otherwise let them go a day and see if they perk back up and then go from there!
I too use hydrozme!
it is very possible the soil was still damp, I am just unsure two days later... I watered all my girls in flower the same day so this one may have still been moist.

Does that change how the ferts respond to the soil? Is this what causes problems like lockout?
If so I will flush, just want to be sure why I am doing it so I know next time. thanks man!
 

MatanuskaValley

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Was your soil already damp when you fed them?
If so I would want to flush mine out. Otherwise let them go a day and see if they perk back up and then go from there!
I too use hydrozme!
Ive heard of a competing product called HyDROzyme but have never used it. Some also confuse HyGROzyme with HyDROguard.
 

JohneyGreenApple

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it is very possible the soil was still damp, I am just unsure two days later... I watered all my girls in flower the same day so this one may have still been moist.

Does that change how the ferts respond to the soil? Is this what causes problems like lockout?
If so I will flush, just want to be sure why I am doing it so I know next time. thanks man!
Here is the best way I can explain it, if your soil is wet still when you feed it, you are not only over watering it (which could be the main cause of the lil wilting bro) and/or you maybe locking them nutes out! If your plant does not dry out and the roots are still wet it will not respond to your nutes because it is not taking them in since it still has all that water from the last watering to deal with.

What kind of water are you using for your girls and whats the ppm on it before you add any ferts?

If you can try to get a fan pointing down twards her soil directly so it drys things up a bit and then give her a good heavy drenching of plain water to get rid of those ferts and then once she has dried out after that flush, you then can feed her..... I probably would do 2 plain waterings and then I would give her the ferts hard and heavy like you did with the other girls!

PLEASE remember to let them dry out before you water them, if you dont let them dry out they are not getting air to the roots and they have to have air bro! Once they have had air they will begin to thrive again and the roots will start searching for water and then when you feed her she will respond great to it bro!

I hope im helping you and not confusing you, I tend to confuse people because I get a little sidetracked when typing this stuff and I may lead you in all different directions, so just keep asking questions and I will keep answering them as throughly as possible bud!

Keep em growing and the best of luck to you with your girls bro! :weed:
 

JohneyGreenApple

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Ive heard of a competing product called HyDROzyme but have never used it. Some also confuse HyGROzyme with HyDROguard.
No confusion bro, I use both Hydrozyme throughout the grow in light doses and Hydro gaurd I generally use only with seedlings/cuttings and then into the first 4 weeks up until flower, but if I do recall you can use it all the way throughout the grow but dont hold me too it! I'll read my bottle later if you want?:blsmoke:
 

MatanuskaValley

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Here is the best way I can explain it, if your soil is wet still when you feed it, you are not only over watering it (which could be the main cause of the lil wilting bro) and/or you maybe locking them nutes out! If your plant does not dry out and the roots are still wet it will not respond to your nutes because it is not taking them in since it still has all that water from the last watering to deal with.

What kind of water are you using for your girls and whats the ppm on it before you add any ferts?

If you can try to get a fan pointing down twards her soil directly so it drys things up a bit and then give her a good heavy drenching of plain water to get rid of those ferts and then once she has dried out after that flush, you then can feed her..... I probably would do 2 plain waterings and then I would give her the ferts hard and heavy like you did with the other girls!

PLEASE remember to let them dry out before you water them, if you dont let them dry out they are not getting air to the roots and they have to have air bro! Once they have had air they will begin to thrive again and the roots will start searching for water and then when you feed her she will respond great to it bro!

I hope im helping you and not confusing you, I tend to confuse people because I get a little sidetracked when typing this stuff and I may lead you in all different directions, so just keep asking questions and I will keep answering them as throughly as possible bud!

Keep em growing and the best of luck to you with your girls bro! :weed:
You explained it very well. I don't test ppm.

I am going to give it another day its already on its way to drying out. I hope this doesn't have anything to do with covering the top of the soil with sand to wipe out the gnats, and prevent mold.
 

JohneyGreenApple

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You explained it very well. I don't test ppm.

I am going to give it another day its already on its way to drying out. I hope this doesn't have anything to do with covering the top of the soil with sand to wipe out the gnats, and prevent mold.
Good glad im not making to big of a fool of myself trying to help you bro hahaha.
Ok well since you dont test ppm,
What kind of water are you using?
Distilled, spring, ro, or tap?

As far as the sand goes thats not a problem at all, just take your index finger and probe down into your soil around the outside edge of your put and figure out how dry the soil is about 2 inches down seeing as you have a layer of sand on top and cant tell easily. if you can do this and figure out if your soil is wet before doing feedings it will help you in a great deal bro!

It sounds like your nutes are on the right line so you should be all good there as long as no other plants are showing any deficenceys, just always remember to check how dry your soil is before waterings!You have to let those roots air out and give them a break from the water. Theres a technical term for it but I forgot it! lol
Just make sure and let them dry out before each feeding and you will grow big beautiful buds with all the love your giving them bro! :mrgreen:
 
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