Punctuation is a responsibility! This read like a kid after too much sugar. Pauses. They help solidify your points. Get it? Rock on.this is a long thread lol before I replaced anything I would ( with that light ) do a single plant photo make a scrog of about 18x18 & fill it before I flipped I'll be first to tell you that I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed technical stuff can be mind boggling I'm dealing with an underpowered light now but its what I have so I shrunk the scrog to fit the footprint of the light , I'm out of time for now here is pics of my tents I have a grow journal your most useful tool is this site just see how others with similar setups are doing their grows[I generaly prefer simple single plant grows ATTACH]4385462[/ATTACH] View attachment 4385463 View attachment 4385464 View attachment 4385465
Exactly and thank you for posting this.and got the reply back from MNS:
Mr Nice Seedbank - Scott Blakey <info@mrnice.nl>
25 Aug. at 9:03 pm
Hi
flowering is calculated from the day of 12 12...not first sign of flowering as this is different for all hybrids. No one i know uses the visual signs as onset of flowering as we all know it is btn 10 days and 2 weeks for this to occur at 12 12. All the best Sb
Myth well and truly busterd.
Time to pour petrol on it and set it on fire and stop spreading misinformation.
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Exactly and thank you for posting this.
You know that misinformed info on countingand expect mid oct to be harvest! However due to the fact that he counted from the time there were "flowers" and not by when he flipped could actually be a November harvest and then wouldn't finish in Time where I live.....
Needless to say I would be pissed!
Hold the phone everybody! We are misinformed! One breeder answered an email and this entire debate can be ended! Hallelujah.Exactly and thank you for posting this.
You know that misinformed info on counting from when you "see" the flowers could really fuck a outdoor grower up.
For instance let's say some dude sold me a cross or strain he had and swore up and down that he has grown it for yrs and it is a 10 week strain and then I put it outdoors and expect mid oct to be harvest! However due to the fact that he counted from the time there were "flowers" and not by when he flipped could actually be a November harvest and then wouldn't finish in Time where I live.....
Needless to say I would be pissed!
Didn't see him saying anything disrespectful, but i guess everybody's skin isn't the same thickness.It’s easy to be nice, but where I’m from we speak with respect and expect it back. He lacks respect in the way he converses.
It's not one breeder... he could write all of them and it would be the same response.Hold the phone everybody! We are misinformed! One breeder answered an email and this entire debate can be ended! Hallelujah.
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The OP, thundercAts original and my subsequent point has long been lost in translation... we were discussing our preferences. People
can stop pretending that a single grower or breeder writes the books around here. That everyone else’s knowledge is misinformation, and that knee pads are required to fanboy around posters with high post counts.
Eye fucking rollz
Funny how multiple people here, growing for 15-20-30 years each day the opposite. Breeders are trying to SELL you plants bud. That’s there job.It's not one breeder... he could write all of them and it would be the same response.
Everyone knows it's from when you flip... this is actually the first time I've ever heard anyone argue that point.
Lol wow... just do me a favor, if ever you sell or give any of your genetics to someone, please tell them both times (from flip, and when you personally think it is) because like I said if I went by how you did it, I would not be able to finish a grow outdoors by going off of your time. 2 weeks for me is life or death to my harvest LITERALLYFunny how multiple people here, growing for 15-20-30 years each day the opposite. Breeders are trying to SELL you plants bud. That’s there job.
And quit saying EVERYONE, it’s ignorant. EVERYONE I learned from told me take breeders time and ADD 1-2 weeks. And magically that’s the same Time as if you go from flower formation post stretch, with anything less than “top of the line, 1000w setups”. Or you can count from whoever you want, I could care less. When people come back and wonder why their buds didn’t swell and put on oils, Ill tell them to come to you, cool?
We don’t care how stubbornly you think you know something, the proof half a dozen people disagree with you refuted EVERYONE.
For sure, I would, and do! I see your point and I’m happy you have things in order for your harvest season. CheersLol wow... just do me a favor, if ever you sell or give any of your genetics to someone, please tell them both times (from flip, and when you personally think it is) because like I said if I went by how you did it, I would not be able to finish a grow outdoors by going off of your time. 2 weeks for me is life or death to my harvest LITERALLY
Thank youFor sure, I would, and do! I see your point and I’m happy you have things in order for your harvest season. Cheers
one? did you miss Kevin Jodrey? You may remember him from such facilities as Wonderland nursery. But as I said way earlier in the convo if Neville (RIP) counts from 12/12 then everyone else should. Where do you think most of these strains come from? And u may of missed were SB said he didn't know of any breeder who counts from flower.If you’re busting myths with one persons anecdotes, you ain’t busting anything bro. You’re doing the same
Thing everyone else does which is spread what they’ve heard from someone else. We aren’t breeders we are growers. There is a difference. Telling people to chop early is worse then telling them to look for visual clues... what interest does a breeder have to let a flowering plant ripen again?
Well I would say that Mr. Nice is not just some breeder. When one of the originals says something it carries more weight than one of the hundred pollen chuckers who call themselves breeders and who some in this thread bring up as their evidence. But what would make you think otherwise? Sensi seed as well? How many original breeders would you need to not roll your eyes?Hold the phone everybody! We are misinformed! One breeder answered an email and this entire debate can be ended! Hallelujah.
End sarcasm.
The OP, thundercAts original and my subsequent point has long been lost in translation... we were discussing our preferences. People
can stop pretending that a single grower or breeder writes the books around here. That everyone else’s knowledge is misinformation, and that knee pads are required to fanboy around posters with high post counts.
Eye fucking rollz
I'll give you a hugI'll say it again.. hugs. We need more hugs.
Thanks!I'll give you a hug
Sums it up nicely!Perhaps some salient points made in this thread:
1. Growers go from flip, when explaining a plants cycle
2. Some amateur growers harvest early as their setups don’t favour the growth the breeder enjoyed
3. We covered some biology for the newbs
4. Use whatever data, facts or intuition, something! And you can ensure a ripe harvest
We got this day licked! The rest is splitting hairs.