Why Do People Keep Lying About Proposition 19?

DankAbbott said:

Listen dude, just because i'm not willing to LIE like all the other weed smokers i've seen lately... doesn't mean I am ANTI. I am just real enough to admit that virtually nothing positive comes from smoking weed dude.... being fucked up on anything often leads to fucked up situations... as every pot smoker already knows yet virtually none want to admit.

I do not think it should be legal however, I do not think tobacco should be legal, or alcohol..... nothing progressive about any of those things.. in fact all of which are anti-evolutionary to society. This whole legalize weed shit has turned pot smokers into Inverted Reefer Madness puppets that will lie up n down about weed and pretend it's all fluffy bunny rabbits and rainbows when it's not

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So you believe the Government should tell us what to do? That's basically what making things like alcohol, tobacco, marijuana illegal is/does. Control. Sounds like you would be happier living in North Korea. America suppose to be free. I suppose to have liberties to do and say whatever I want, but I can't. How is that free? I'm not sure how anyone can claim America is free and liberal when our Government can tell us what we can put in our own bodies.

How would you feel if Fast Food ended up being illegal? It's no worse than alcohol. It does harm to our bodies. So does alcohol, tobacco, and "marijuana". What's the difference? Why don't they just make everything that causes harm to our bodies illegal? Since they care so much.

LAWS are the foundation to civilization brother, i'm not sure what you think your alternative is.

Look into the criteria of civilization... you gotta have 2 things... writing, and law.

mr2shim said:

How would you feel if Fast Food ended up being illegal? It's no worse than alcohol. It does harm to our bodies. So does alcohol, tobacco, and "marijuana". What's the difference? Why don't they just make everything that causes harm to our bodies illegal? Since they care so much.

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Fast Food has good qualities and bad qualities, it gives you necessary vitamins and calories... but there are also bad things in it.
What is positive about marijuana?

DankAbbott said:

LAWS are the foundation to civilization brother, i'm not sure what you think your alternative is

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You're right, LAWS are the foundation of civilization. Laws, that's what prop 19 is. It allows us the liberty to consume marijuana, but it governs things that get out of hand. Like selling to minors, which is morally wrong. You are basically agreeing to prop 19 but you can't see it. I'll try to break it down for you.

You believe laws are the foundation of our civilization. You believe that marijuana should be illegal, as should tobacco and alcohol. Yet, you would oppose making fast food, snack cakes, processed tea, high fructose corn syrup and what has it added(basically almost everything now days) ILLEGAL.

So unless you can say you want everything that causes harm to our bodies illegal you are a huge hypocrite. Your logic is skewed.

Prop 19 makes marijuana legal, allows Californians to consume it, doesn't allow minors to consume(which is morally wrong and should be governed) Get it?

As I said in my previous post, what's the difference between alcohol, marijuana, tobacco and fast food, snack food, and just about everything sold at the Super Market? They call cause bodily harm. It one should be illegal, all should be illegal.

You and everyone else not supporting prop 19 are hypocrites in their own right and don't even realize it.

Would i oppose a law that abolishes affordable food to consumers? Yes

The only thing weed does to your body, is harm it.... unless you are in pain.. in which case marijuana is not your answer... tylenol is

You know - as long as I have been growing my own vegetables - the government has not once said a god damn thing about it. My buddy makes his own beer - the government has never asked him for money. In fact, people around here sell their produce overages on the side of the street, that cops drive by every day. Do they pay taxes on the income they make from their extra vegetables? I doubt it. Those bastards knew they were growing more tomatoes then they could every possibly eat! Oh and FYI - their tomatoes are dank as fuck - way better than the ones the dudes in lab coats at Monsanto are genetically engineering

rucca said:

You know - as long as I have been growing my own vegetables - the government has not once said a god damn thing about it. My buddy makes his own beer - the government has never asked him for money. In fact, people around here sell their produce overages on the side of the street, that cops drive by every day. Do they pay taxes on the income they make from their extra vegetables? I doubt it. Those bastards knew they were growing more tomatoes then they could every possibly eat! Oh and FYI - their tomatoes are dank as fuck - way better than the ones the dudes in lab coats at Monsanto are genetically engineering

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None of those things are worth more than GOLD in weight most people who brew their own beer... make absolute garbage... veggies are cheap at the store

If potheads came up with a plan that is anti-retarded to legalize marijuana and give the government their taxes...... the government might listen. But if you think the government is ever going to let you grow your own weed..... you're just crazy

Oh yeah BTW, I gave you all the plan for the only chance at marijuana legalization... i'd go with that plan and push it... personally i dont really care though

DankAbbott said:

Would i oppose a law that abolishes affordable food to consumers? Yes

The only thing weed does to your body, is harm it.... unless you are in pain.. in which case marijuana is not your answer... tylenol is

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He wasnt referring to affordable food. He said Fast Food. You know the shit that makes us the fattest unhealthiest country in the world? Do not forget it contains things like hydrogenated oil, MSG, some ingredients listed only as animal by products, cholesterol and all those other things that cause the #1 leading cause of death in this country, heart disease.

DankAbbott said:

None of those things are worth more than GOLD in weight most people who brew their own beer... make absolute garbage... veggies are cheap at the store

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You better check prices bro if you are referring to weed as being more valuable than gold. The more you post the dumber you get bro!! Just think you should take look at that.

bigv1976 said:

You better check prices bro if you are referring to weed as being more valuable than gold. The more you post the dumber you get bro!! Just think you should take look at that.

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Yeah you're right, since inflation gold has gone a few dollars more expensive than marijuana... if we are going by California / Amsterdam prices

DankAbbott said:

None of those things are worth more than GOLD in weight most people who brew their own beer... make absolute garbage... veggies are cheap at the store

If potheads came up with a plan that is anti-retarded to legalize marijuana and give the government their taxes...... the government might listen. But if you think the government is ever going to let you grow your own weed..... you're just crazy

Oh yeah BTW, I gave you all the plan for the only chance at marijuana legalization... i'd go with that plan and push it... personally i dont really care though

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No one cares about your drivel

bigv1976 said:

He wasnt referring to affordable food. He said Fast Food. You know the shit that makes us the fattest unhealthiest country in the world? Do not forget it contains things like hydrogenated oil, MSG, some ingredients listed only as animal by products, cholesterol and all those other things that cause the #1 leading cause of death in this country, heart disease.

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See how can you call me dumb, yet you'll say shit like America is the fattest country in the world

Then you said america is unhealthy because of MSG, not knowing where MSG comes from... listen dude if we wanted to insult each others intelligence, you aren't going to come out the victor lol

DankAbbott said:

None of those things are worth more than GOLD in weight

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Weed is worth so much because it isn't legal. The supply is low - it is risky to transport. I don't know why your density is so perplexing. Prop 19 is called Tax and Regulate - not make weed legal. Why are growers voting against 19? Oh yeah, they are worried it won't be profitable....

I wonder how much tax revenue is generated by tomatoes? I'm sure the economy would feel a hit if everyone grew their own - but people would flip shit if they were not allowed to.

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DoThey came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

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Ok dude I am done with this thread. It is common knowledge we are the most obese country in the world and I am not sure what you pay for weed but gold is currently about 4x the amount I would pay for the best weed in the world. You are truly an idiot bub.

DankAbbott said:

None of those things are worth more than GOLD in weight most people who brew their own beer... make absolute garbage... veggies are cheap at the store

If potheads came up with a plan that is anti-retarded to legalize marijuana and give the government their taxes...... the government might listen. But if you think the government is ever going to let you grow your own weed..... you're just crazy

Oh yeah BTW, I gave you all the plan for the only chance at marijuana legalization... i'd go with that plan and push it... personally i dont really care though

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Gold is worth 1300 an oz. Please stop spewing bullshit because you sound like an ignorant asshole. You have made so many false statements in this thread it's actually kind of annoying.

rucca said:

Weed is worth so much because it isn't legal. The supply is low - it is risky to transport. I don't know why your density is so perplexing. Prop 19 is called Tax and Regulate - not make weed legal. Why are growers voting against 19? Oh yeah, they are worried it won't be profitable....

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People seem to think weed is legal in holland (when it's not)....... how come the prices are so high there? Why are they so high for medical patients?

Banditt said:

Gold is worth 1300 an oz. Please stop spewing bullshit because you sound like an ignorant asshole. You have made so many false statements in this thread it's actually kind of annoying.

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Yea, it's pointless trying to argue logic with this fool. I'm refraining from posting anymore. I feel as if I am truly getting dumber replying to his useless babble.

I haven't looked at the stats but any cultured human being that has been anywhere would know that the fattest countries are in the south Pacific.... places like FIJI and New Zealand, American Samoa........... America is NOT nor has EVER been the fattest country on earth

mr2shim said:

Yea, it's pointless trying to argue logic with this fool. I'm refraining from posting anymore. I feel as if I am truly getting dumber replying to his useless babble.

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You were pretty much done when you admitted yourself that there is nothing positive about Marijuana.

IN FACT: Is there any pot smoker here, that can come up with one positive aspect of Marijuana smoking... or are you all uppity about being frauds?

DankAbbott said:

You were pretty much done when you admitted yourself that there is nothing positive about Marijuana

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When did I do that? You're a pretty good troll, usually when I say I'm going to stop posting I do.


You pretty much proved to everyone you're an idiot when you said you think marijuana, tobacco, alcohol should be illegal, yet fast food should be legal. Fast food is a direct cause of heart disease. The number one cause of death in the United States. Number ONE. Start protesting fast food then maybe someone will pay attention to the garbage you keep typing.

mr2shim said:

When did I do that? You're a pretty good troll, usually when I say I'm going to stop posting I do.

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Oh my bad.......... NAME SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT MARIJUANA SMOKING

and this is when you avoid my question and admit i was right