Why don't you like Ron Paul?

Parker

Well-Known Member
Then I will ask you.

Abortion has two libertarian stances.

Position 1

If you give property rights to the mother, the mother has the right over her body.

Position 2

The unborn is put into a position it's not under control to change. The unborn will be subjected to agression against its own will. Libertarians mustn't use agression or coercion in order to gain their wants.

Position Bullshit

The state decides isn't an answer. It's one of the two above. Harrekin can even answer, he has no states so he can't choose Ron Paul's bullshit Position.
You confuse Ron Pauls beliefs with Ron Pauls duty as an elected official. The Federal government should not decide the abortion issue. Period. That's it. No bullshit there. Plain and simple. Follow the Constitution and serve his constiuents. That is what he was elected to do
 

Parker

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" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

That seems like a law to me.
We were founded on property rights. Although I see where you are coming from, maybe guidelines would be a better term than law.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Ok, any law not explicitly expressed in the constitution is up to each state, and all that jazz. So he has no problems with banning fags from doing evil butt sex, hetero too, or abortion. Just as long as states do it. Fuck that. It's still bullshit. He doesn't care about what's my business to fuck anyway I want, with my wife. He's a fake libertarian. I can do whatever the hell I want, as long as I don't harm others. The federal or state government has no business to interfere with my life like that. But not according to schizophrenic Ronnie who has his imaginary friend in the sky. Anything which couldn't be known or wasn't an issue, like gays or abortion, in magical constitution 225 years ago, you're fucked. You better hope your state gets it right, or move. If new issues come up, fuck you too. God bless Ronald.
I'm curious. What states are all these bad things going to happen?

You are confusing the role of society with the role of government. Society doesn't use force against someone for smoking pot. Government uses force and coercion to get what it wants. Government forces me to give to their causes so I cannot give as much to mine. That's where you want to live?
 

deprave

New Member
Ok, any law not explicitly expressed in the constitution is up to each state, and all that jazz. So he has no problems with banning fags from doing evil butt sex, hetero too, or abortion. Just as long as states do it. Fuck that. It's still bullshit. He doesn't care about what's my business to fuck anyway I want, with my wife. He's a fake libertarian. I can do whatever the hell I want, as long as I don't harm others. The federal or state government has no business to interfere with my life like that. But not according to schizophrenic Ronnie who has his imaginary friend in the sky. Anything which couldn't be known or wasn't an issue, like gays or abortion, in magical constitution 225 years ago, you're fucked. You better hope your state gets it right, or move. If new issues come up, fuck you too. God bless Ronald.
Ron Paul doesn't believe in legislating morality (social issues)... and he never has said or voted that way. Its really very simple, I am not sure why some people can't seem to figure it out. Dr Paul believes in social and economic liberties both equally and has voted that way for over 30 years, always siding with civil liberties.
 

UncleBuck

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Ron Paul doesn't believe in legislating morality (social issues)...
yes he does, you brainwashed little child.

Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
You confuse Ron Pauls beliefs with Ron Pauls duty as an elected official. The Federal government should not decide the abortion issue. Period. That's it. No bullshit there. Plain and simple. Follow the Constitution and serve his constiuents. That is what he was elected to do
That is incorrect, look it up. He is outspoken in his opposition to abortion, and opposes Roe vs. Wade. He has stated that life starts at conception and that said life is afforded protection by the constitution.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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yes he does, you brainwashed little child.

Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.

Opposes Federal funds to have gay acceptance training, sound like a waste of money to me. bongsmilie
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
as opposed to straight acceptance training?

sounds like ron paul the bigot collectivist was singling out a group of people as collectively unacceptable.

If that was true then he must have voted for Federally funding some gay counseling or something, but he doesn't. He wants to stop wasting peoples money in shit programs like that would be. Shitty and inefficient. A waste of money.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Opposes Federal funds to have gay acceptance training, sound like a waste of money to me. bongsmilie
I am starting to think you might be the first Ron Paul supporter I have yet come across that actually has more then 31 brain cells, and you are now showing some right wing cred in addition to your cultish signature...bodes ill.
 

UncleBuck

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If that was true then he must have voted for Federally funding some gay counseling or something, but he doesn't. He wants to stop wasting peoples money in shit programs like that would be. Shitty and inefficient. A waste of money.
if ron paul wants to stop wasting federal funding on teaching people what is and what is not an acceptable lifestyle, why didn't he include ALL lifestyles, gay and straight?

why did ron paul take the time and effort in crafting his bill to single out gays as unacceptable?

oh, that's right. it is because ron paul is a bigot. have fun carrying his water, you brainwashed little child.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
He certainly would rather espouse the right wing than the left, he is being drawn into the non-libertarian dichotomy and starting to resemble a republican...just sayin.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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if ron paul wants to stop wasting federal funding on teaching people what is and what is not an acceptable lifestyle, why didn't he include ALL lifestyles, gay and straight?

why did ron paul take the time and effort in crafting his bill to single out gays as unacceptable?

oh, that's right. it is because ron paul is a bigot. have fun carrying his water, you brainwashed little child.
Link to said bill???
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
Family Protection Act - States as the purpose of this Act the abolition of Federal governmental policies which interfere with the freedom of the American family.

This bill provides tons of cuts, you are such a nitpicker.

"Forbids any court of the United States from requiring the attendance at a particular school of any student because of race, color, creed, or sex"

"Specifies that social security benefits are exempt from taxation."

"Allows an income tax deduction for adoption expenses."

"Grants tax-exempt status to organizations which provide care and treatment for victims of child or spousal abuse and to organizations which care for runaway children"



You try way too hard to find contradictions.​
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Family Protection Act - States as the purpose of this Act the abolition of Federal governmental policies which interfere with the freedom of the American family.

This bill provides tons of cuts, you are such a nitpicker.

"Forbids any court of the United States from requiring the attendance at a particular school of any student because of race, color, creed, or sex"

"Specifies that social security benefits are exempt from taxation."

"Allows an income tax deduction for adoption expenses."

"Grants tax-exempt status to organizations which provide care and treatment for victims of child or spousal abuse and to organizations which care for runaway children"



You try way too hard to find contradictions.​
don't forget this part, you brainwashed little child:


  • Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.



 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
don't forget this part, you brainwashed little child:


  • Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.




So you want him to say heterosexuality and homosexuality? Wouldn't that be kind of redundant since there is no such program that promotes heterosexuality?
 
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