Why is the PH of my mixed Canna Coco nutrients going up?

PJ Diaz said:

Reach out to Athena on Instagram and ask for a sample. They sent me around $600 of their powder line for free, they even covered shipping. I'm not sure that I would buy their product or not, as it's very expensive, but I do like it better than Jacks. This "sample" will last me quite a while.

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I won a bunch of Mega Crop nutes from Aqua Terra here a few years back. Got 2kg of the 1-part nutes and 1kg each of Carbo which is pure dextrose, Big Up which is your basic P/K booster at 0-52-34 and Rock Steady which is pure potassium chloride at 0-0-62.

I grew some plants in straight HP using these and tho they grew great in veg flowering was not so shit hot. And the nutes absorbed so much water they turned into slush so I stopped using that stuff but the other is nice to have to tweak what I feed them.

My first hydro nutes back in '82 were just 6 or 7 bags of salts you were supposed to make stock solutions with then feed according to a photocopied list for different plants I ws given. The dude just pointed at the one for tomatoes and said to use that for my 'tomatoes' (wink wink). I was buying a 1000W MH and other goodies to set up a grow at the time. Was at Western Water Farms in downtown Vancouver at the time.

The times sure have changed in the last 40 years thank Jah!

PJ Diaz said:

Yeah, they also own Botanicare too. I used to really like their Liquid Karma back in the day. Now a days I've replaced LK with Kelp and Fulvic Acid.

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I'm loving the VeloKelp from REMO. I swear you could grow nice plants using that stuff all by itself and really acts like a tonic for sickly plants. I use it to water my seed pots of screened promix when I plant or the first feeding for freshly rooted cuttings. A guy gave me an almost full gallon jug a while ago but still working on a litre I had bought not long before.

There's fulvic and all sorts of good stuff in the Gaia Green products I'm using these days. Liking that stuff too.

OldMedUser said:

I'm loving the VeloKelp from REMO. I swear you could grow nice plants using that stuff all by itself and really acts like a tonic for sickly plants. I use it to water my seed pots of screened promix when I plant or the first feeding for freshly rooted cuttings. A guy gave me an almost full gallon jug a while ago but still working on a litre I had bought not long before.

There's fulvic and all sorts of good stuff in the Gaia Green products I'm using these days. Liking that stuff too.

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That stuff does look pretty good, but also pretty expensive. I've been using CleanKelp from Bloom City for a couple of years now, and have been loving it.

OldMedUser said:

There's fulvic and all sorts of good stuff in the Gaia Green products I'm using these days. Liking that stuff too.

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I've been using this for Fulvic: https://www.mrfulvic.com/

Holy cow, my meter might be going out finally after almost 2 years. Turns out it was off, reading 6.1ph when it was 5.6, what is wierd is my tap is .5ec & 8.0 PH but when I put my maxi bloom in, its Ph’d perfect at 5.9.

What the heck?? I calibrated my meter, probably need to weekly to make sure meter isn’t going out. Never seen a dose of solution ph itself. Trippy. Is it a coincidence? I did 5 gallons.

Nothing weird or trippy. Most nutrient salts in solution are under 7 ph. I get around 5.9 with Jack's 321 in RO, but it was much higher with my hard tap water. Fortunately, a friend gave me an RO filter.

About ph meters, don't let them dry out, keep probes in storage solution, never RO or distilled!

1212ham said:

Nothing weird or trippy. Most nutrient salts in solution are under 7 ph. I get around 5.9 with Jack's 321 in RO, but it was much higher with my hard tap water. Fortunately, a friend gave me an RO filter.

About ph meters, don't let them dry out, keep probes in storage solution, never RO or distilled!

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My hanna meter was spot on using it raw, never cleaned or stored in any solution for over a year and the day I did, it started acting funny. It is just now back to normal.

Trippy because I hauled and prepared lots of solution and never had I not have to use ph up or down, I ALWAYS did. RO or tap.

Still trippy because you say much higher with tap but mine is 5.9 with tap. Feels like if I added a little bit more to be in early/mid flower and probably get the same unless every little grain changes the ph and indeed did read much different every gram I put in.

medidedicated said:

My hanna meter was spot on using it raw, never cleaned or stored in any solution for over a year and the day I did, it started acting funny. It is just now back to normal.

Trippy because I hauled and prepared lots of solution and never had I not have to use ph up or down, I ALWAYS did. RO or tap.

Still trippy because you say much higher with tap but mine is 5.9 with tap. Feels like if I added a little bit more to be in early/mid flower and probably get the same unless every little grain changes the ph and indeed did read much different every gram I put in.

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Did your Hanna not come with storage solution and instructions?

LOL, trip if you need to! Is you tap 1.3 EC like mine? Wow, wouldn't that be a trip! Not all tap is the same, hard water raises ph.

1212ham said:

Did your Hanna not come with storage solution and instructions?

LOL, trip if you need to! Is you tap 1.3 EC like mine? Wow, wouldn't that be a trip! Not all tap is the same, hard water raises ph.

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Holy cow thats high, I thought .5ec was average and .7 ec is on the high side. Nuanced as water and hydro is, I assume you either have decent quality or some serious polution.

Yes they came with instructions but I did not follow. The day I did, that happened but also, is it normal for all of the storage solution to dry out and turn into crystal salts and ooze out of it even though stored properly? Also is redundantly hard to uncap like it is glued shut.

I genuinely am wondering, I almost made a thread on it because seemingly I got better results treating it like an average person. I know this because I did use calibration fluid to check that it was only slightly off after 2 weeks use with no calibration.

Almost as if it was being calibrated too often.