ArcticGranite
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Trumps not gonna catch and release like Obama.
Trump also supports right to work (for less) Boo.
will mexican companies absorb the 20% tariff trump puts on their goods?
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Trump also supports right to work (for less) Boo.
ArcticGranite
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Nice spin. Doctor. Ever run the Boston Marathon?
srh88
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Ever hung out in Oklahoma city?
Grandpapy
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Our borders are in Escrow offices around the country, each have a profitable welcome "Red" Carpet out front with holes worn in it. "Made in America" means little if the profits of foreign Companies are sent back home. Everyday more "investors" have a reason to lobby for lower standards and a higher "Dow"
China adopting our EPA/Human Rights rules would stop the vacuum of jobs. jmo.
Any profit minded person sees the value in Communism.
Labor per hour in (by todays conversion )1968 = $10.66
Build that fence, by the time it's finished it will benefit Mexico by keep us from getting jobs.
HAF2
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No but the right did everything in their power to stop every single bill Obama tried to pass. The alt-right racist brigade called him a Kenyan and debated his country of origin. The right did not accept him for the last 8 years.
So why the fuck would you expect the left to accept trump?
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/wPf2W
Stop whining, you probably did enough of that over the last 8 years.
twostrokenut
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Look at insider trading right now all while they're trying to get you to invest your retirement in the most expensive market ever. Follow the money.
Minimum wage in 1968 was $1.60. Silver still was in circulation then. The conversion for that right now is $27.42 per hour in 1968.
twostrokenut
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Jewish is not a race.
Fogdog
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umm, yeah, you never "mistaked" the two. Go back and read your own post. You "mistaked" them, oh yes you did.
I didn't call you a sockpuppet either. Just suggested a simple minded way to express yourself without revealing your ignorance and stupidity.
Regarding your claim that Obama and Trump are in the same refugee ban apple cart. Sorry to spill the cart but you are again spewing alternative facts. That shit only works with racist brown shirt types. More than half the population sees right through that shit. Not you, of course, you "mistaked" (snicker) a turd for an apple and bit right into it. Misery might love company but don't try to get me to bite into it.
Sorry, Mr. President: The Obama Administration Did Nothing Similar to Your Immigration Ban
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/
What was different about Obama's action?
Narrow focus
Not a ban
Grounded on a specific threat
Orderly Organized process
Bottom line: No immigration vetting system is perfect, no matter how “extreme.” President Obama often said that his highest priority was keeping Americans safe. In keeping with America’s tradition and ideals, he also worked to establish a vetting system that worked more fairly and efficiently, particularly for refugees who are, by definition, in harm’s way. President Trump should defend his approach on the merits, if he can. He should not compare it to his predecessor’s.
^^Take a look at the last two sentences. Your arguments typically defend right wing actions by comparison rather than by merit. "Yeah, But". By trying to tear down others in defense of an corrupt action, you concede that the merits are foul. Your comparisons are also false which makes you into either a fool, a liar, or both. Same goes for Trump in his baseless attempt at propaganda by hiding in false comparisons with Obama's actions.
Fogdog
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twostrokenut
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I know right "a profit minded person sees the value in Communism" just left unchecked by you. So much wisdom.I always go to RIU for my investment advice. So much wisdom there.
Fogdog
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You are confused about the difference between Social democracy and Communism. Not surprising coming from an investment genius who lives in a trailer.
Sharpening knives is honest work and provides value to the customer. I keep my own knives sharp but have probably spent more on my set of water stones than I would have by going to somebody who was really good at it.
Grandpapy
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They who? The "Global" Chairmen?
Fogdog
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^^this
Totally agree. Our wage disadvantages would become a thing of the past if workers in China, Mexico and elsewhere were afforded collective bargaining rights and other human rights like we have (or had) in the US. Instead of using the power of the purse to foster democracy and human rights, we are funding suppression of said rights. The fence is bad enough but those tariffs are a bane to people on both sides of the border. Another example of tearing people down when we should be giving a hand up.
esh dov ets
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It's not their job. They have more important things to do. They don't need another excuse to stop and frisk esp. One based on racial appearance.
The gustapo said "we need to see papers". Insert meme
squarepush3r
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I can't read the article you linked, since it tries to spam me with advertisements and signing up, so I wasn't able to read it.
Afaik, Obama did not allow any refugee from Iraq for 6 month period. When you say its "nothing similar," I find that a bit hard to believe, Iraq is a Mulsim majority country.
Also, I am not defending right wing actions, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy with the media and a lot of posters here, and logical inconsistencies.
Fogdog
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Can you defend Trump's actions on it's own merits?
Just calling somebody a hypocrite even if true, which in this case it is not, doesn't justify other shitty actions.
A former NSA and CIA director under three presidents says his actions have no merit.
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/30/512400246/former-nsa-director-weighs-in-on-national-security-council-changes
(scroll down about 2/3 of the article, unless you'd like to read what a seasoned leader in national security has to say about Trumps turning the council into a propaganda organ)
MARTIN: Before I let you go, you mentioned the - the ban, the travel ban, that President Trump and the administration has put out there. Could I just get your take on that? Do you think, as someone who has studied America's national security threats for so long, that this is the right move at this moment?
HAYDEN: It's a horrible move. It is a political, ideological move driven by the language of the campaign and, frankly, campaign promises - promises in the campaign that were hyped (ph) by an exaggeration of the threat. And in fact, what we're doing now has probably made us less safe today than we were Friday morning before this happened because we are now living the worst jihadist narrative possible, that there is undying enmity between Islam and the West.
Muslims out there who were not part of the jihadist movement are now being shown that the story they're being told by the jihadists - they hate us; they're our enemy - that's being acted out by the American government. And frankly, Rachel, at a humanitarian level, it's an abomination.
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esh dov ets
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I believe the term is new world order.
What's your point paste-er
esh dov ets
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what"s you point? and what do you think jewish is? how do .you. define race?
squarepush3r
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I do not need to defend Trump's actions because I am not a Trump supporter. I just find it funny people screaming bloody murder at everything Trump dos, and find it very easy to find logical inconsistencies in the arguments and disprove the fake news cycles. For example when Trump "Banned Muslims" over the weekend, it seems like he did a pretty bad job at doing so, since there are still 1.5 Billion Muslims worldwide who are free to come to US.
Fogdog
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Then you are just spewing right wing false comparisons. Without any reason. Good job.
You are still confused about what fake news is, by the way.