Will Obama Reinstate the Draft?

ResistanceIsFertile

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Does anyone remember the crazy babbling of Joe Biden before the election (as if that narrows it down)
When I read these entrails, it almost seems like he is referring to bringing back the military draft, something that would be easier for the dems to do, than the republicans. The same way it would be easier for a republican to legalize drugs.

Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables"


ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked.

"All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place," he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. "We have the ability to straighten it out. It's gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."
 

max420thc

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the iranians .kim jong.damn near everyone of the lefties in the world has challenged obama already.they smell blood and weakness in the water.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Surely he won't start drafting people. It's not a good plan, especially if he's drafting people away from good jobs for the Bush regimes leftover bullshit.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
BHO would not have the moral authority to draft anyone into the military.no one would go and serve.
i dont have to worry about it.as i have served already.
it would have to be a real bad national emergency for me to see active duty again.
there have been thousands of active duty officers resign their commissions on jan 20th.
the marines of marine one will not face the president.that is a sign of disrespect and contempt for the president.
im sure most of you did not know that till now.
when the president exits marine one the marine if the marine respects the president will not let the presidents back leave his sight untill the president is gone.in other words that marine has the presidents back.
if the president walks away and the marine does not look at him .that means the president is held in contempt by warriors.
 

ResistanceIsFertile

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besides that.obama never signed up with selective service.
It looks like he did, late (like me) but in LA and not Hawaii.
I had to sign up to enlist, when I was 20. I never bothered until I had to.
When the sent me packing, they made me RE-4. I don't know what they call it now. Not my problem unless they start calling up babies, old men, and the disabled for a last-ditch human wave.
 

ViRedd

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If anyone would reinstate the draft, it would be Obama. Remember, socialists of all stripes including fascists, and Obama being a fascist, would honestly believe that we are all part of The Hive ... individualism be damned.

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

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If anyone would reinstate the draft, it would be Obama. Remember, socialists of all stripes including fascists, and Obama being a fascist, would honestly believe that we are all part of The Hive ... individualism be damned.

Vi
Resistance is Futile, Become one with der Hive, to secure Lebensraum... wait, sorry, getting Obama confused with Hitler. So many similarities.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
:shock:...:o... :finger: O....K....., they can shove that shit right up their ass. :cuss:

What do they mean "citizenship does not mean entitlement" ? I do believe that as citizens we pay taxes to support a military to protect us. That's not entitlement, that's employment.

So what happens when all these people ages 18-25 go for their "3 months of service"? Are their employers required to hold their jobs for them? Are they getting paid for this service? Are they getting free medical care while they are serving?

Is this a law for everyone or will the children of the rich and powerful be exempt?


I dont know about a draft but somethings going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPSjUIJwpg
 

ilkhan

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Sounds like "Starship Troopers" to me. Service guarantees citizenship!! Do your part!! The draft is slavery, Universal service seems to me to be a school for citizenship or perhaps "reeducation." This is fundamentally against the ideals of liberty. IMO
 

max420thc

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re education was a guess of mine.commies like to re educate .
a military camp would include tests so they can determine who is mentaly like them.and who would be capable of firing a weapon on the american people.most men in the military would not fire a weapon at the people of this country for no reason.it would take a special type of idiot to fire a weapon at the citizens of this country.they may be trying to find those particular people who would do it.
that would open up a can of worms as the american populace is the most heavly armed in the world.
 

ilkhan

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"Universal" I think that means females, hermaphrodites and males, So yes. However this will not be "Military" really this will be his internal spy's to make sure we all stay good little citizens. Civilian security forces to assist with Emergencies. People to clean up roadsides, plant trees, assist with health care, and generally taking paying jobs from working people. A popular lead in to fascism/communism (state-ism). This is the same sort of thing the Hitler and Stalin used see Hitler youth and KOMSOMAL. It is indeed re-education, a complete reworking of the fabric of our society and what it means to be free.

But don't think about the bad aspects of this think about the great leaders plans and our new great society that will emerge from this!! Just think of all the keen new uniforms and how smart those young people will look in them.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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"Universal" I think that means females, hermaphrodites and males, So yes. However this will not be "Military" really this will be his internal spy's to make sure we all stay good little citizens. Civilian security forces to assist with Emergencies. People to clean up roadsides, plant trees, assist with health care, and generally taking paying jobs from working people. A popular lead in to fascism/communism (state-ism). This is the same sort of thing the Hitler and Stalin used see Hitler youth and KOMSOMAL. It is indeed re-education, a complete reworking of the fabric of our society and what it means to be free.

But don't think about the bad aspects of this think about the great leaders plans and our new great society that will emerge from this!! Just think of all the keen new uniforms and how smart those young people will look in them.
Welcome to the USSA, Union of Socialist States of America, remember, Big Brother's Little Brothers are watching you.
 

ViRedd

New Member
It still amazes me that the majority of the American people were ignorant enough, stupid enough, foolish enough or duped enough to put this guy into office. Honestly, didn't anyone ask what he meant by "change?"

What's going to be a pleasure to watch is ... when all of those high income earning, left-wing Yuppies, who voted for this Son-of-a Bitch Obama because they "wanted to make history" by electing the first Black president, discover that they are going to get eaten alive by the new, brutal taxes on "the rich"

Do you know what they'll be crying? "But WAIT ... we didn't mean THIS!!!"

Vi
 
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