Will You vote for Obama?

Public Poll: Will you vote for Barack Obama?

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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dbozz628 said:
No, actually that graph represents CHANGES in spending.
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this graph represents new spending.

saying that the unfunded medicare drug benefit that bush signed into law is an example of obama's spending is completely intellectually dishonest.

if you look at the cost of policies implemented under the last president and this one, the picture looks a lot different.

the key is to be honest about history, not lie about it for partisan reasons.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
MixedMelodyMindBender said:
Perhaps I need to be more precise. They also have way lower crime rates, which leads to a small(er) prison population. China advertises well that they are not any notion of "free". Its the American Government that pulls shit over your eyes all the while telling you its roses and chanting the land of the free the land of the free.

If your insisting they have more capital punishment then america, wikipedia will gladly help you find that wrong.
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Wikipedia showed me that China *does* have more capital executions than the USA, but the number was like 5 to 6 thousand per annum. The other cute factette i picked up is that the official prison census in China is kept low by categorizing "administrative detention" as separate.

Nonetheless i agree with you that all this windy noise about "freedom" is not accurate or helping us much.



By the confirmed numbers, the rate of executions in China is higher than the United States and Pakistan, though Iran executes more prisoners per capita.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] The Dui Hua Foundation declares that the true figures were higher; they estimate that China executed between 5,000 and 6,000 people in 2007, down from 10,000 in 2005.[SUP][1][/SUP]
The exact numbers of people executed in China is classified as a state secret; occasionally death penalty cases are posted publicly by the judiciary, as in certain high-profile cases. One such example was the execution of former State Food and Drug Administration director Zheng Xiaoyu, which was confirmed by both state television and the official Xinhua News Agency.[SUP][13][/SUP] Other media, such as Internet message boards, have become outlets for confirming death penalty cases usually after a sentence has been carried out.
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Not arguing ... just bored. cn
 
Dbozz628

Dbozz628

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UncleBuck said:
this graph represents new spending.

saying that the unfunded medicare drug benefit that bush signed into law is an example of obama's spending is completely intellectually dishonest.

if you look at the cost of policies implemented under the last president and this one, the picture looks a lot different.

the key is to be honest about history, not lie about it for partisan reasons.
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Look, I'll be honest. I hate the 2 party system. But the real powers that run this country decide what's going on. The politicians are just faces to identify and give people something to talk about. That's just my opinion. Republican, Democrat, same beast, different heads.
My fiancee works dealing with Medicare and insurance companies and my Dad will soon be on Medicare and with what Obama wants to do medicare is not good for both consumers and providers. He's enabling it to be monopolized and send everyone to one general provider instead of letting people choose.
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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UncleBuck said:
it's lawrence o'donnell, and he is angry at you for forgetting his name.

but not as angry as my cat for my latest troll prank.

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What did you do to that dear cat?

But you troll so well. How long has this been going on? A couple of days? I'd say the other guy was winning he has your panties in a bunch.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
What did you do to that dear cat?

But you troll so well. How long has this been going on? A couple of days? I'd say the other guy was winning he has your panties in a bunch.
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i'm content with my trolling in this thread. it's not about winning, it's about the LULZ.
 
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