Word of advise for newbies.

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Dr Lg

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Guys I'm here telling you this because I've been frustrated about the subject for a while. No one has been able to help me. I've read dozens of pages about drying and curing.. all talking about drying for 5-7 days blah blah then curing with the burping. All this info just like on how to grow weed in general will only take you so far. I have realized finally that drying and curing is a matter of experience.

When you are first starting out, its very difficult to judge when it is JUST RIGHT to start jarring. I have found with my strains that if you don't put it in jars at just the right moment you will fuck it all up. You will know this when it smells musky. You can have amazing fruity smelling weed in the drying room and then fuck it up with the cure. Been there done that.. ready to change course. Just yesterday I had 2 nugs that's I took out to put in paper bags. One bud smelled fresh and the other one had a neutral smell and felt dryer. Turns out the next day I notice a light leak that just shoots a narrow beam of light right where a set of nugs are drying. Although the whole room was at the same temp and humidity, the beam of light caused the nug to dry up! That is the only thing I can think of that would cause this.

Then again maybe its just me. Maybe some of you beginners are lucky and get really smelly stuff... but maybe not. It seems so simple when you read about. Hang it and dry it.. how fuckin hard can that be?? But when you have a decent crop with different sized stems and lack of experience, it gets tricky. I suggest everyone who is new to this to use a HYDROMETER. Measure the RH (relative humidity) during the curing process and you will know exactly if your nugs are ready to continue the curing process or need a bit more drying. This is also the first time I used paper bags and let me tell you.. I'm not going back. It really helps smooth out the drying process by giving it more preparation for curing.

Just my 2 cents.. when people ask how to dry and cure don't just tell them what they've heard 1 million times. Its easy for some of you guys when you've been doing it for over ten years.

Peace
 
svsuv

svsuv

Active Member
I put small buds in bags too, then jar them. I leave the bigger buds to dry in a box top, then jars. Sometimes I dry too much but its still smokeable.:weed:
 
k0ijn

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Dr Lg said:
Guys I'm here telling you this because I've been frustrated about the subject for a while. No one has been able to help me. I've read dozens of pages about drying and curing.. all talking about drying for 5-7 days blah blah then curing with the burping. All this info just like on how to grow weed in general will only take you so far. I have realized finally that drying and curing is a matter of experience.

When you are first starting out, its very difficult to judge when it is JUST RIGHT to start jarring. I have found with my strains that if you don't put it in jars at just the right moment you will fuck it all up. You will know this when it smells musky. You can have amazing fruity smelling weed in the drying room and then fuck it up with the cure. Been there done that.. ready to change course. Just yesterday I had 2 nugs that's I took out to put in paper bags. One bud smelled fresh and the other one had a neutral smell and felt dryer. Turns out the next day I notice a light leak that just shoots a narrow beam of light right where a set of nugs are drying. Although the whole room was at the same temp and humidity, the beam of light caused the nug to dry up! That is the only thing I can think of that would cause this.

Then again maybe its just me. Maybe some of you beginners are lucky and get really smelly stuff... but maybe not. It seems so simple when you read about. Hang it and dry it.. how fuckin hard can that be?? But when you have a decent crop with different sized stems and lack of experience, it gets tricky. I suggest everyone who is new to this to use a HYDROMETER. Measure the RH (relative humidity) during the curing process and you will know exactly if your nugs are ready to continue the curing process or need a bit more drying. This is also the first time I used paper bags and let me tell you.. I'm not going back. It really helps smooth out the drying process by giving it more preparation for curing.

Just my 2 cents.. when people ask how to dry and cure don't just tell them what they've heard 1 million times. Its easy for some of you guys when you've been doing it for over ten years.

Peace
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What you write here has already been written and explained many times before.
I have repeated myself many times on the subject on drying and curing, every time I give precise information as to; how long, what conditions what RH etc.
It's very easy from a simple search of these forums to find the information needed.

I don't see how this post you have made in any way helps new growers more than the countless of posts in this forum section where experienced growers provide information as to exactly when curing stars, when curing stops, what helps curing, how you should cure, how you should dry, for how long and what pitfalls there might be.


It's called a 'hygrometer', not a hydrometer.
You say you are frustrated with incomplete information.
Why did you not specify what RH levels are important?
Why did you not specify when curing starts and when it stops so the new growers now when to jar and when to not jar their weed?
It baffles me that you complain over no one being able to help you, yet you post a very imprecise post to help others.



This is one my more recent posts on the subject, in a reply to a thread you posted, asking for help:

k0ijn said:
Curing starts @ 65% RH and ends @ 55%.
You want to dry your plants in 40%-60% RH, letting them gradually reach 65% RH.

Then jar them and procede to burp the jars, frequency depending mainly on:

RH, Temp and Air circulation.

Best way is to let them cure from ~65% to 55% RH slowly, over weeks (preferable 2-4 weeks).
After that time, initial burp stage curing should be over and you can jar them up and seal them, they will keep getting better with time, and won't need burping.
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Why would you like the post I made if you don't think it explained how to cure well enough?
Perhaps you are not talking about me, but your post is very general, and applies to all experienced growers who try to help out new growers with their drying & curing process.
Therefore I somewhat take offense when you say you receive no help.

Especially since this was your reply to my post:

Dr Lg said:
Awesome just what I wanted to hear. I think I'm really starting to understand this curing thing. Next hard thing will be determining when to jar them up. I have one of those humidistats you can buy at wal mart. I don't know how accurate it is but it would be really nice to be able to measure it without having the experience to know first hand. After that i'll have to figure out how long i'll be burping it... really im starting to find out that this whole curing art comes with experience.. hope this works out.
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Do you see where you are contradicting yourself?
You say you get no help, however in the thread where I helped you, you said:

Dr Lg said:
Awesome just what I wanted to hear. I think I'm really starting to understand this curing thing.
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I don't understand why you then a few days later post a thread where you say:

Dr Lg said:
Guys I'm here telling you this because I've been frustrated about the subject for a while. No one has been able to help me. I've read dozens of pages about drying and curing.. all talking about drying for 5-7 days blah blah then curing with the burping.
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This makes no sense to me.
 
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Dr Lg

Active Member
Lol my purpose was not to write out a whole tutorial brother. I don't want to sound like one of the big boys just yet. I'm a noob myself and know my place. I was frustrated with a particular post I had regarding my shitty smelling and bad tasting product. Of course there is much more to drying and curing I just wanted to let the beginners know that its not as easy as it looks to get it just right. Lets say someone does everything instructed and jars it up based on the outside of the buds being dry and little does he know the RH the next day is 80 percent. Continuing to burp it like instructed the humidity stays high and the harvest is fucked.

Also when someone is consistently drying and curing in the same location it is easier for him control everything knowing how the buds react to the temperature and the humidity. Someone doing it for the first time won't be able to judge the moisture content.

Sorry I'm baked couldn't take all that writing you threw at me all at once.. lol just finished reading. I appreciate your help and it helped me greatly, I guess this is for people like me who don't use the search button. I looked at the most recent posts and various writings online and books. You defiantly helped me out though I didn't realize that was you.

Maybe I'm just pissed that it took me 5 times to get it right.. lol
 
Rumple

Rumple

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k0ijn is the friendly greeter here at Rollitup. It is his job to make all new folks feel welcome and warm. He always makes new folks feel confident to post new ideas and opinions.

Like a big fuzzy bunny. Man I love that guy
 
k0ijn

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Dr Lg said:
Lol my purpose was not to write out a whole tutorial brother. I don't want to sound like one of the big boys just yet. I'm a noob myself and know my place. I was frustrated with a particular post I had regarding my shitty smelling and bad tasting product. Of course there is much more to drying and curing I just wanted to let the beginners know that its not as easy as it looks to get it just right. Lets say someone does everything instructed and jars it up based on the outside of the buds being dry and little does he know the RH the next day is 80 percent. Continuing to burp it like instructed the humidity stays high and the harvest is fucked.

Also when someone is consistently drying and curing in the same location it is easier for him control everything knowing how the buds react to the temperature and the humidity. Someone doing it for the first time won't be able to judge the moisture content.

Sorry I'm baked couldn't take all that writing you threw at me all at once.. lol just finished reading. I appreciate your help and it helped me greatly, I guess this is for people like me who don't use the search button. I looked at the most recent posts and various writings online and books. You defiantly helped me out though I didn't realize that was you.

Maybe I'm just pissed that it took me 5 times to get it right.. lol
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I'm not trying to get you to write a tutorial, all I'm saying is that you asked for help, I assisted you, you said it helped greatly.
And 5 days later you make a new thread with a post where you say you didn't get any help solving your drying & curing issues.

That is what I don't understand, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'm glad that what I wrote helped you, that was the point of me writing it.
I just don't take it lightly when people say they didn't get help, I try to help everyone equally.


@ Rumple:

Your instigating gets you nowhere, I am helping this guy, I've helped him 5 days ago and I'm trying to help him today, but I'm also dumfounded by him saying he didn't receive help when I clearly helped him and he even thanked me for it and said:

Dr Lg said:
Awesome just what I wanted to hear. I think I'm really starting to understand this curing thing.
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I don't mind him trying to assist other new growers at all, I prefer him to help others if he knows his stuff.
However he 5 days ago started a thread asking for help, and it seems quite soon to start helping others when he barely has the hang of it.

It takes years to learn everything about growing Cannabis, I myself have grown for a long time and I'm no where near knowing everything.
However what I do know, I try to share with others who ask for help.

:weed:
 
Rumple

Rumple

Well-Known Member
I myself have grown for a long time and I'm no where near knowing everything.
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I don't buy that for a minute. I think you are waiting for your first harvest to start smoking weed. I have never met a pot smoker as uptight as you in my whole life. Good pot makes most folks peaceful and happy.
So I for one, can't wait for your first harvest to be done. Who knows, you might turn out to be a nice guy after a few bong loads.

Now if what I say is not true.... Then you need to switch strains right away. You need much stronger bud then what you are smoking. You might want to let the trichomes go a bit amber before harvesting. Just tossing ideas at ya my brotha.

If you lived closer, I would have offered to help you out. I hate to see anyone suffer (I'm a medical grower).

Love ya, R.
 
k0ijn

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Rumple said:
I don't buy that for a minute. I think you are waiting for your first harvest to start smoking weed. I have never met a pot smoker as uptight as you in my whole life. Good pot makes most folks peaceful and happy.
So I for one, can't wait for your first harvest to be done. Who knows, you might turn out to be a nice guy after a few bong loads.

Now if what I say is not true.... Then you need to switch strains right away. You need much stronger bud then what you are smoking. You might want to let the trichomes go a bit amber before harvesting. Just tossing ideas at ya my brotha.

If you lived closer, I would have offered to help you out. I hate to see anyone suffer (I'm a medical grower).

Love ya, R.
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Now you assume shit about me without knowing me at all?
What is your problem?

I don't mind saying I don't know everything about growing, I have a lot to learn about decarboxylation, terpenoids, other growing techniques (I haven't tried aeroponics fully except for smaller parts in my spray / misting system) and tons of other stuff within the subject of plants, biology, microbiology, chemistry etc. etc.
Why would you think I am a new grower because I can admit I don't know everything?
Do you have a grudge against me or what?

I have 4 strains at the moment, I hardly need more for now, although I do switch them out sometimes.
I have Pineapple Chunk, G13 x Haze, Cinderella 99 and Tangerine Dream.
More variety than I need really. But I like them just the same.

I have let some plants go amber, I have done many experiments over the years, tested a lot of strains, pre-harvest leached, switched harvest time to experiment on trichome colours and I did not care for the effect I got from having amber trichomes.
CBN produces an unpleasant high in my opinion.
 
Rumple

Rumple

Well-Known Member
Why would you think I am a new grower because I can admit I don't know everything?
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Noooooo, it's because you are so uptight. You have very little give in you and it is not consistant with what I see in most folks somking the herb. So I think you have not had a harvest yet to cure your "hard-edge". As soon as you smoke a bowl of good stuff, you might get friendly.

Another theory is: You are a real nice guy, who has grown weed for years but gave away too much of your last harvest and came up short this month. I wish I could help you if that is the case.

You come off real hard on folks that don't agree with you. We are not chatting about the best CPR methods or open heart surgery. Try talking to us like a friend you care about that happens to be wrong.
 
k0ijn

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Rumple said:
Noooooo, it's because you are so uptight. You have very little give in you and it is not consistant with what I see in most folks somking the herb. So I think you have not had a harvest yet to cure your "hard-edge". As soon as you smoke a bowl of good stuff, you might get friendly.

Another theory is: You are a real nice guy, who has grown weed for years but gave away too much of your last harvest and came up short this month. I wish I could help you if that is the case.

You come off real hard on folks that don't agree with you. We are not chatting about the best CPR methods or open heart surgery. Try talking to us like a friend you care about that happens to be wrong.
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You don't even smoke cannabis yourself, yet you supposedly know everything about people who do?
I'm not uptight at all, I just have a tough line for people who post wrong information and claim all sorts of myths without any scientific backup.
I find it funny how apparently all people who smoke weed behave the same in your mind, very generalizing and offensive way of thought.
This forum is constantly being filled with unusable shite posted by people who don't know anything, and not only that, people try to educate others and help new growers even though they don't get basic plant biology themselves.
I have had plenty of harvests, I have G13 x Haze curing at the moment, but that is beside the point, I don't need to justify or explain myself to you, who are you claiming to know who I am, and who are you to question my growing experience?
I've just smoked G13 x Haze 1 hour ago, being high has nothing to do with how I write to you.

Again, wether I'm high or not has nothing to do with how I write to you, you're taking this way to personal.
I'm just trying to get people to stop posting bullshit, getting right in their face when they do and not bowing to their twisted myths and unsubstantiated theories is one way I do this.

No, I come off real hard on people who talk bullshit.
I don't care if you don't agree with me, I care about what is posted to people here, I care about what kind of information people are being led to believe.
Growing cannabis is a science, there are right and wrong ways of doing it.
New growers are easily led astray, and perpetuating wrong information is one of the major factors of cannabis myths.

I take everything I do seriously, if you want to grow half-hearted, by all means be my guest.
 
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smokey mcsmokester

Well-Known Member
I have never used the paper bags, I simply hang them in a dark room for a few days until the stems snap, then jar them and 2 or three times a day open the jars, pour the buds onto a paper plate to rearange them and put them back into the jars, I do this for 2 weeks or so,and end up with stuff thats so smelly( a great smell btw), I have to sometimes tripple baggie them...lol... Works the same every time for years :)
 
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Dr Lg

Active Member
Yes you put the hygrometer in the container you are curing in. And enough with the fighting.. smoke a joint and chill lol.
 
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kushnotbush

Well-Known Member
One thing that I think should be mentioned about the "stem snapping" to know when to put it in to jars is that you should try to snap the nug actually in half not the stem at the base of the flower. I think that this is most newbies mistake, also I find it's better for it to bend some but still break. The other thing is it is much harder to "rehydrate" than to dehydrate so for me a slow 3 day hang dry works followed with a couple of days in paper bags wrapped in newspaper and from there I go into jars. During the first few weeks I open the jars 3-4 times daily depending on how dry the material is which also dictates how long I leave it out. Make sure to watch for mold especially during the first week.

One thing about the forums here is that your are able to see so many others grow techniques which also means you will see many variations that generally put out similar results. All I am trying to say is there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat fellas. The other thing one must realize is that it's not possible to read how to cure on the web and actually expect to get it perfect the first time, hell I know guys that have grown commercially for years and couldn't tell you the first thing about how to long term cure. All I am trying to say is learning what works for you takes doing it first hand and also takes failing in order to understand what not to do next time.

Good Luck fellas, happy growing and keep'em green!
KnB
 
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