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MuyLocoNC

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Despite Doer reiterating the arguable details of the encounter that have been argued into the ground in the BIG thread, none of it really matters. It's a waste of time because NOTHING, let me repeat that, NOTHING Zimmerman did before the PHYSICAL EXCHANGE was illegal. Nothing. That is a demonstrable fact as he wasn't charged for anything else. They are just window dressing for us to argue about and for the prosecution to castigate.

You can have ten eyewitnesses view the exact same crime and get ten different accounts. The fact that Z's story doesn't match every detail of Goode's is to be expected. Under that level of stress, it would be an outright miracle if they did match perfectly.

Despite incorrect assertions by several participants on this thread, Zim had EVERY right to leave his truck (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point), maintain observation of Martin (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point) , speak to him (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point) and do all of this without being attacked. The reason, motivation, attitude and temperament that led him to do so is inconsequential as long as he didn't break the law by initiating the ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTACT. If he did, then he needs to spend time in the pokey. However, I think the prosecution is going to have a hard time PROVING beyond all reasonable doubt that it went down exactly that way. Zim knows the truth, but I don't think he's gonna roll over on himself.
 
desert dude

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So, the guy who had his head slammed into concrete and just went through the most emotionally traumatic event imaginable, messes up a few irrelevant details? All I can say is, big deal.

There are bushes behind every condo unit, all trimmed about three feet high, all clearly visible in the photos admitted into evidence by the prosecutor. Doer, are you and Buck in competition to see who can be the most laughable liar?

There are three streets in the community. Street signs are at the ends of the block where Z was at.
 
MuyLocoNC

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Harrekin said:
It's cos he'd been suspended from school.

Beating bus drivers, theft, marijuana trafficking...
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Having a pipe and an empty bag isn't trafficking, no proof of theft and the alleged "swing on a bus driver" is just a tweet sent from his cousin. Trying to deduce what actually happened from either person's history is folly compared to the actual evidence and eyewitness accounts.
 
Doer

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desert dude said:
So, the guy who had his head slammed into concrete and just went through the most emotionally traumatic event imaginable, messes up a few irrelevant details? All I can say is, big deal.

There are bushes behind every condo unit, all trimmed about three feet high, all clearly visible in the photos admitted into evidence by the prosecutor. Doer, are you and Buck in competition to see who can be the most laughable liar?

There are three streets in the community. Street signs are at the ends of the block where Z was at.
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Well, then he said he didn't know if he came from the bushes, from front or behind.

What is this about wasting time, Muy?
You wasting your time to read this?
 
desert dude

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Doer said:
Well, then he said he didn't know if he came from the bushes, from front or behind.

What is this about wasting time, Muy?
You wasting your time to read this?
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Let me get this straight: the guy who was ambushed didn't know where the ambusher came from. Cool story, bro.
 
Doer

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desert dude said:
Let me get this straight: the guy who was ambushed didn't know where the ambusher came from. Cool story, bro.
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Well, that's what Zim said. He was attacked and he doesn't know from what direction. He could not remember the details of how he was attacked.

Not my story, sexy.
 
desert dude

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The audio quality from the interrogation room is terrible. We need some FBI experts to tell us what was said, or maybe some NBC types to tell us that Zimmerman confessed to murdering both Trayvon Martin and Jimmy Hoffa.
 
Doer

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Oh, I love that picture. So, don't go mad crazy on me. I heard it just now. Over and over.

The off-duty they pulled in to do the interview tried to get him to say, specifically, and he could not.

So, don't shoot me in heart dude, read the transcripts. This is Law. I don't have an opinion.

I will wait until the jury gives me one.

I'm and American, gawddamnit. :)
 
desert dude

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MuyLocoNC said:
Despite Doer reiterating the arguable details of the encounter that have been argued into the ground in the BIG thread, none of it really matters. It's a waste of time because NOTHING, let me repeat that, NOTHING Zimmerman did before the PHYSICAL EXCHANGE was illegal. Nothing. That is a demonstrable fact as he wasn't charged for anything else. They are just window dressing for us to argue about and for the prosecution to castigate.

You can have ten eyewitnesses view the exact same crime and get ten different accounts. The fact that Z's story doesn't match every detail of Goode's is to be expected. Under that level of stress, it would be an outright miracle if they did match perfectly.

Despite incorrect assertions by several participants on this thread, Zim had EVERY right to leave his truck (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point), maintain observation of Martin (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point) , speak to him (cite the law that states otherwise or concede the point) and do all of this without being attacked. The reason, motivation, attitude and temperament that led him to do so is inconsequential as long as he didn't break the law by initiating the ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTACT. If he did, then he needs to spend time in the pokey. However, I think the prosecution is going to have a hard time PROVING beyond all reasonable doubt that it went down exactly that way. Zim knows the truth, but I don't think he's gonna roll over on himself.
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This is all precisely correct. I would quibble with the "as long as he didn't break the law by initiating the ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTACT." part, but it doesn't matter since we only have one eye witness to the whole thing and he says Martin started it by punching Z in the face.
 
MuyLocoNC

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Doer said:
Well, then he said he didn't know if he came from the bushes, from front or behind.

What is this about wasting time, Muy?
You wasting your time to read this?
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You might have noticed there was a bit more to my post than that. Care to address my argument on the legality of Zim's actions leading up to the physical exchange. Go ahead and cite those laws he broke and and why on earth he wasn't charged for them and we'll go from there on the validity of my waste of time claim.

Fair enough?
 
desert dude

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Doer said:
Oh, I love that picture. So, don't go mad crazy on me. I heard it just now. Over and over.

The off-duty they pulled in to do the interview tried to get him to say, specifically, and he could not.

So, don't shoot me in heart dude, read the transcripts. This is Law. I don't have an opinion.

I will wait until the jury gives me one.

I'm and American, gawddamnit. :)
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Sometimes you are coherent. Right now, not so much. I don't know what you just heard "over and over". Was it voices? Were they telling you to continue rambling? :-)
 
MuyLocoNC

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desert dude said:
This is all precisely correct. I would quibble with the "as long as he didn't break the law by initiating the ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTACT." part, but it doesn't matter since we only have one eye witness to the whole thing and he says Martin started it by punching Z in the face.
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Yeah, I didn't bother to go into the fact that he could still claim self defense EVEN if he started the physical exchange. I didn't want the heads of some of my fellow RIU member's heads to explode.
 
desert dude

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MuyLocoNC said:
Yeah, I didn't bother to go into the fact that he could still claim self defense EVEN if he started the physical exchange. I didn't want the heads of some of my fellow RIU member's heads to explode.
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I am pretty sure some of our fellow RIU members have been headless, brainless anyway, for some time.
 
ricky1lung

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Doer said:
I'm just lumping you in the category of those that "like" this from you. I ignore them.... ergo sum?

In this case you were simply trying to abridge my free speech with hate speech sarcasm. I'm listening to the trial today.

Again why would you possible care to swoop in on me with high horse ass sarcasm, unless you are developing a web crush on me? <blush> That I can completely understand. :) No Problem, man bro.

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"great one..." I thank you for that.
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Oh guy don't be flattered, understanding clearly is not something you are capable of.

I simply emphasized your self gratification in your post. You know, where you cleverly tried
to outline your superior intelligence in cracking the case.

I had already pointed out what I thought happened on the ill fated night, however when
I read another of your self inflated posts I sought to make an example of you.
Duly noted I am sure, none the less.

There is no hate, nor any referenced in any of my postings. There are no racist or bigoted comments
in any of my postings. You will not find me making any comments that would fall inside that threshold.

I do not mind showing you and your comments in the light they deserve to be in.

Perhaps being a subject, I promote a higher level of respect then you do for other people. ( Easy Doer, that is another sarcastic slam at your
way of thinking, just in case you missed it. I know very cryptic to some )

Too bad you are unlike your respectful American neighbors, the world knows they [ most American citizens ] are unlike your sort.
 
Doer

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Hollow points. Heart shot, point blank with a 9mm. A new fact in evidence. Legal in FL, but certainly frowned upon by juries in my state. And HP is banned in some states except for certain sporting activities.

Ow, Ow....it is big move to clear leather and bring your arm up to shoot across the center of mass. A kid is dead, the man that stalked him killed him.

Now if the jury decides, not hung, one way or the other, I will be happy. Another one bites the dust, whatever. And I will think about the countries as I always do that are not allowed the freedom to know this stuff in the Real.

It will hinge I think on only the question of fear of ones life. Is that credible to this jury? What the jury does is the Justice and sometimes its cold and cruel and viciously correct. But, sometimes OJ and Casey's Dad can get away with it.
 
Doer

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Why are you fussing with me then? Are you just trying to dress me down?

If you think I seem superior, I am just a dude 3 times your age I imagine. Not my fault of. I sit here and type to this forum.

You seem to harp on my style of dark mind influence, yet you say it entertains you.

Don't work too hard, my buddy. The feeling is mutual. You are no sycophant. I didn't mean that.

I like you, too. :)
 
Doer

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And why do you think ole Doer is even let out of this forum....isn't Doer only a mental construct for you?

Anyway, this is a disgusting long con that I just have to back out of. Not a single person has tumbled
to it...out loud.

So, it's done. Not funny, since you never smacked the softball I've been putting right in the sweet spot just for you. Tsk...

Now I have to do it for you. You are no Subject. Nope not even adopted, most probably. Naturally born and human of course.:)

A Commonwealth citizen, which replaces the former category of British subject, is generally a person who is a national of any country within the Commonwealth of Nations.

British Nationality Act 1981.

PSYCH!!! How do you feel now Citizen? Hey fellow C, I hope you are not taking me, at all seriously? I don't even encumber myself, with that any more. :)
 
ricky1lung

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Doer, it's ok.

Respect for the fellow man or woman uninhibited by nationality really is a wonderful thing.

I can and do appreciate disagreements and I have also been swayed by convincing respectful people.

I don't hate you, I'm probably much like you (albeit different outlooks) We both stick it to those we disagree with.
 
ricky1lung

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Doer said:
And why do you think ole Doer is even let out of this forum....isn't Doer only a mental construct for you?

Anyway, this is a disgusting long con that I just have to back out of. Not a single person has tumbled
to it...out loud.

So, it's done. Not funny, since you never smacked the softball I've been putting right in the sweet spot just for you. Tsk...

Now I have to do it for you. You are no Subject. Nope not even adopted, most probably. Naturally born and human of course.:)

A Commonwealth citizen, which replaces the former category of British subject, is generally a person who is a national of any country within the Commonwealth of Nations.

British Nationality Act 1981.

PSYCH!!! How do you feel now Citizen? Hey fellow C, I hope you are not taking me, at all seriously? I don't even encumber myself, with that any more. :)
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You're right, you're not funny.

After reading many of your previous posts I already know better, you are far too transparent and less clever than you may think.

Here in this post you are again outlining my beautiful country is a part of the commonwealth. In your previous postings you outline how you as a "merican" are better than the rest of us commonwealther's

Well Sir ( and I mean that lightly :) )
You are no better. You are a man with opinions that people disagree with.
Just like I Am.

One profound difference is our ability to be respectful to others.

This is where you and I differ greatly, as outlined in your round about lame attempt at a slam on those in the commonwealth.

Nice try, but those that know you have been shown again your insatiable attempts at making yourself to be superior.
 
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