First Grow. Starting to Show Rusted Spot Yellow and Dying HELP!

kermit2692

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Folks that think fancy labels, cool names and high prices make the nutes better make me laugh!!!! hahahaha
People who make assumptions make me laugh...I don't think its inferior because its not fancy, its inferior because its a complete all around mix the most general ass fert you can by that will grow anything so its not tailored to the needs of a single type of plant and I I don't think its quality material. also my other main reason is its not organic.
 

twostrokenut

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Whatever the opinion on MG how is dissing it helping the op?
That's all he's got....it will have to do....it does fine for lots of folks.....shouldn't we focus on his/her low ph runoff and lack of nutes? And try to help?
 

Moishe

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if you want to transplant into a different medium, you could let them sit in a big 15 gallon bucket of warm water while you spray off the roots and shit. IMO forsake soil and goto hydro. Miracle Grow doesn't have hydro products, so you'll be clean bro.
 

RIKNSTEIN

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Lol....how many times do I have to repeat this you would think people would stop doing it with all the info online...DON'T USE MG OR DELAY RELEASE OF ANY BRAND...see, it causes problems for new growers that don't understand how it works and its inferior anyway so why use even of you know what your doing..you had a leaf issue, checked Ph likely that's out of whack due to the Mg, so then you don't know what your doing so you "flushed it" but here's why I tell people not to use delay release you CAN'T flush it..by running more water through you have done the opposite you have released all the nutes into the soil!! The right move was to transplant it into proper soil...live and learn man, try to transplant it or ride it out and never use delay release or Mg again :)
Man your advice is...not good...Mg works fuckin' fantastic, I never had a problem when I used it, I use https://www.rollitup.org/organics/539844-subs-supersoil.html now and it's hotter than any MG or "Delay Release" on the market :hump:...and to the OP you need to feed that girl...get some MG African violet food and put 20 drops into a gallon of water, mix 1 teaspoon of Epsom salts with it and feed her...I bet she's better in 3 days :mrgreen: if not I'll send you my address and you can have one of mine...
 

RIKNSTEIN

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This plant is in desperate need of some Nitrogen and Magnesium...
...so do it a favor and do what I said...trust me, and nice air pots man...
 

kermit2692

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I wasn't necessarily saying he had nute burn I was explaining how delay release works and if their were still delay release balls as they are supposed to feed for three months, he did just release alot of nutes after taking the pictures..I personally would transplant it into a non delay release organic soil mix and larger pot, buy general organics go box, and follow the flowering recipe included! You will alleviate any possible issue by doing this wether it be over fed under fed off Ph doesn't matter..spend the 40 bucks to do this will last two grows the nutes no other way to go imo have to spend a little to make a little
I have results to prove this is actually fine advice and i'm not "dissing" anything, i'm sure he isn't emotionally attached to the product it won't hurt his feelings that I suggested he try another..
 

twostrokenut

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I have results to prove this is actually fine advice and i'm not "dissing" anything, i'm sure he isn't emotionally attached to the product it won't hurt his feelings that I suggested he try another..

No worries......post up some of your pics we'd love to see them....aint shit happening here otherwise....right?
Lighten up.
 

lxrsd

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Added Epsom salt to my last feeding been adding coco sensi boom part A & B since that's the only nutes i have. The problem still continues. is not nute burn i know is mag and nitrogen def but it seems like its not working. The leafs keep turning yellow slowly. Btw is on MG and theyre 2 month old about to go into flowering.

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MD914

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Added Epsom salt to my last feeding been adding coco sensi boom part A & B since that's the only nutes i have. The problem still continues. is not nute burn i know is mag and nitrogen def but it seems like its not working. The leafs keep turning yellow slowly. Btw is on MG and theyre 2 month old about to go into flowering.

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Epsom salt? What are you expecting that to do? Do you plan on transplanting before the flip :???:
 

Dogenzengi

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Added Epsom salt to my last feeding been adding coco sensi boom part A & B since that's the only nutes i have. The problem still continues. is not nute burn i know is mag and nitrogen def but it seems like its not working. The leafs keep turning yellow slowly. Btw is on MG and theyre 2 month old about to go into flowering.

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You are describing nute lockout, what's the PH of your runoff?
 

lxrsd

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Epsom salt? What are you expecting that to do? Do you plan on transplanting before the flip :???:
nope but epsom salt is a good source of magnesium. I added 1 tbps per gallon of water and feed them 1/2 gallon.
 

MD914

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nope but epsom salt is a good source of magnesium. I added 1 tbps per gallon of water and feed them 1/2 gallon.
I just don't know if I'd want to add salt..can you get some cal mag? How long have you had her in that pot? Hard to feed a root bound plant...gonna need lots of room for growth during the stretch after you flip your lights too...fresh soil would probably do you some good...even if it is MG
My first grow I used MG...my first grow sucked :)
 

lxrsd

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I just don't know if I'd want to add salt..can you get some cal mag? How long have you had her in that pot? Hard to feed a root bound plant...gonna need lots of room for growth during the stretch after you flip your lights too...fresh soil would probably do you some good...even if it is MG
My first grow I used MG...my first grow sucked :)
I had them in this soil since the start. i was thinking about getting a 7 gallon pot with farm fox ocean soil and making the transplant they in a 5 gallon pot now. what you think of that? isn't Epsom salt as good as cal mag?
 

MD914

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I had them in this soil since the start. i was thinking about getting a 7 gallon pot with farm fox ocean soil and making the transplant they in a 5 gallon pot now. what you think of that? isn't Epsom salt as good as cal mag?
I LIKE the way your thinking :) That would be a smart move...and you will LOVE the results! Just add a little lime to that soil and mix it up real good before you transplant. I think MG causes a salt buildup...which causes issues...I wouldn't add more salt...use lime...or CalMag. But only use about 1/2 of what the bottle calls for...like clumpy mascara, less is more ;)
 

MD914

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runoff is 4.88 ... i dont understand i just flushed them 2 weeks ago and ph was fine...
If your gonna transplant to FFOF you don't even need to worry about that...you could spend the rest of this grow chasing your pH...but it won't fix your problem...you need to transplant (even if it's into MG) your roots need space...
 

lxrsd

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If your gonna transplant to FFOF you don't even need to worry about that...you could spend the rest of this grow chasing your pH...but it won't fix your problem...you need to transplant (even if it's into MG) your roots need space...
omg thank you so much for your help. ordering the ffof n pot. how should i do the transplant? rinse off the MG from roots completely or just make a completely transplant with the MG still attached to it?
 

MD914

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omg thank you so much for your help. ordering the ffof n pot. how should i do the transplant? rinse off the MG from roots completely or just make a completely transplant with the MG still attached to it?
I wouldn't disturb the root ball too much...you'll probably find nothing but roots anyway :???: But don't over water after the transplant...the new soil has a lot of moisture to it...and you don't want an over watered plant in a 7 gallon pot...Let me know if you need anything else...I can make you a shopping list if you wanna ditch the synthetics all together ;)
 
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