Mass Murder by Blade, you Vast Idiots

[Doer]

Held up a rock.. a 2 lb'er

Yeah, that's the look. Wave a rock!! Been there. It works. I have several younger brothers. None older.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Really Beef. There is a novel in you somewhere. I used to be the guy that made them laugh (or jump usually), for the photo...I was not that good at it. Must be an art. But, an unhappy baby is the usual.

Anyway, I graduated to selling the photo layout, upsales in the home, for a while.

I would suck at that job.

Work appropriate? Meh...

 

[thecannacove]

I would suck at that job.

Work appropriate? Meh...

Lmfao beef, nice mug.

 

[thecannacove]

Well, you are somewhat entertaining yourself....

Finally some fakkin' recognition

 

[Ace Yonder]

Yes, China just recently but there have been blade attacks in the USA recently. And all over all time.

Yeah but this thread was started with the example from China, so why should my examples from other countries suddenly become invalid? Only data that support one side of the argument are allowed? Fine, we still have single perp domestic gun incidents where no other weapon was used with death tolls in the 20's. What is the greatest single perp domestic incident death toll from massacre by knife or by vehicle when no other weapon was involved? Since you seem to have figures on hand based on your response.

 

[NoDrama]

Yeah but this thread was started with the example from China, so why should my examples from other countries suddenly become invalid? Only data that support one side of the argument are allowed? Fine, we still have single perp domestic gun incidents where no other weapon was used with death tolls in the 20's. What is the greatest single perp domestic incident death toll from massacre by knife or by vehicle when no other weapon was involved? Since you seem to have figures on hand based on your response.

The single greatest mass murder in the USA wasn't with a gun or a knife.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Bombs are a mother fucker.

 

[Ace Yonder]

The single greatest mass murder in the USA wasn't with a gun or a knife.

Have any other irrelevant non sequiturs? Also, have a citation for that? What is the single greatest mass murder by a single perpetrator? Please do enlighten. As I have provided specific examples with my assertions.

 

[Harrekin]

Anders Behring Breivik killed 69 people by gun and 8 people by bomb, all in one day. Woo Bum-Kon killed 57 by gun. Martin Bryant killed 35 by gun. I could go on. Also all these numbers are from single perp actions, whereas the blade attack that started this was committed by over 10 people (meaning an average of 3 kills per person). Dunno where that guy came up with the idea that 27 was the highest, but I do know that very few people on here have done any research to back up their claims. They just find one piece of data that seems to help them and they extrapolate their own ideas from that.

He had a select fire carbine rifle and a Glock 32 which is chambered for .357, he wasn't just some girly boy with a death wish.

Thats the main difference, he wanted a death toll, most American mass shootings seem to be done for attention by angsty kids.

 

[NoDrama]

Have any other irrelevant non sequiturs?

I am guessing you don't have any idea what a non sequitur is, you should go look it up so as to not look so foolish in the future. Stop trying to parrot phrases which you don't understand.

 

[Doer]

Have any other irrelevant non sequiturs? Also, have a citation for that? What is the single greatest mass murder by a single perpetrator? Please do enlighten. As I have provided specific examples with my assertions.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/15/mass-killings-main/3821897/

Mass killing is not even tracked with 60% accuracy by the FBI. Make sure you watch the video
USA tdday, has no axe to grind

.............mass killings account for just 1% of all murders nationally.

It was a school based rampage with fire bombs, dynamite, etc in 1927.

Bath Consolidated School before the bombing
Location	Bath Township, Clinton County, Michigan, USA
Date	May 18, 1927
Target	Bath Consolidated School, house, farm and wife
Attack type	School bombing, mass murder, murder-suicide, suicide truck bombing, arson, uxoricide
Weapon(s)	Dynamite Pyrotol Firebombs Winchester Model 54 rifle
Deaths	45 total; 44 at the school (including the perpetrator) and the perpetrator's wife at home
Non-fatal injuries	58
Perpetrator	Andrew P. Kehoe
Motive	Revenge for defeat in local election Personal and financial stress

 

[Doer]

Bombs are a mother fucker.

Yes, they are. I went to jr high with a guy who had 2.5 fingers blown off from a pipe bomb.

 

[Doer]

Yeah but this thread was started with the example from China, so why should my examples from other countries suddenly become invalid? Only data that support one side of the argument are allowed? Fine, we still have single perp domestic gun incidents where no other weapon was used with death tolls in the 20's. What is the greatest single perp domestic incident death toll from massacre by knife or by vehicle when no other weapon was involved? Since you seem to have figures on hand based on your response.

Are you trying to say that there were not 8 people hacked by blades in the USA recently. It is part of immigrant angst murder syndrome. They kill their family with a cleaver or something.

I think you just need to consult Uncle Google. Guns are not the mass murder weapon of most death. Never have been.

Rampage killing by blade

there you go

 

[Beefbisquit]

Are you trying to say that there were not 8 people hacked by blades in the USA recently. It is part of immegrant angst murder synrome. They kill their family with a cleaver or something.

I think you just need to consult Uncle Google. Guns are not the mass murder weapon of most death. Never has been.

Rampage killing by blade

there you go

Most murders are done with firearms. Not sure about most 'mass murders'.

[h=1]Weapon[/h]

Firearm	111,289
Knife	20,503
Other	11,364
Personal weapons	10,079
Blunt object	7,049
Strangulation	1,536
Fire	1,342
Asphyxiation	1,225
Drugs	638
Drowning	239
Poison	130
Explosives	53
Pushed/thrown out window	35

10 years of USA stats. 2000-2010

 

[Doer]

Most murders are done with firearms. Not sure about most 'mass murders'.

Weapon

Firearm	111,289
Knife	20,503
Other	11,364
Personal weapons	10,079
Blunt object	7,049
Strangulation	1,536
Fire	1,342
Asphyxiation	1,225
Drugs	638
Drowning	239
Poison	130
Explosives	53
Pushed/thrown out window	35

10 years of USA stats. 2000-2010

And not link. Wow. You are something.

Afraid of the source scorn, not doubt. Where did you get that?

 

[Doer]

Here is how you do it.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Murder Victims by Weapon, 2007–2011

• Download Excel

Weapons	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011
Total	14,916	14,224	13,752	13,164	12,664
Total firearms:	10,129	9,528	9,199	8,874	8,583
Handguns	7,398	6,800	6,501	6,115	6,220
Rifles	453	380	351	367	323
Shotguns	457	442	423	366	356
Other guns	116	81	96	93	97
Firearms, type not stated	1,705	1,825	1,828	1,933	1,587
Knives or cutting instruments	1,817	1,888	1,836	1,732	1,694
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)	647	603	623	549	496
Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)[SUP]1[/SUP]	869	875	817	769	728
Poison	10	9	7	11	5
Explosives	1	11	2	4	12
Fire	131	85	98	78	75
Narcotics	52	34	52	45	29
Drowning	12	16	8	10	15
Strangulation	134	89	122	122	85
Asphyxiation	109	87	84	98	89
Other weapons or weapons not stated	1,005	999	904	872	853

• [SUP]1[/SUP] Pushed is included in personal weapons.

 

[Beefbisquit]

And not link. Wow. You are something.

Afraid of the source scorn, not doubt. Where did you get that?

Wall street Journal.

http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/#view=all

Wall Street Journal got the Info from the FBI.

[h=1]Methodology[/h] The FBI collects this data from the states, except for Florida. Florida doesn't use the FBI's guidelines when reporting additional information about homicides. The FBI data don't capture all homicides. The states' reporting is voluntary, and the country's thousands of police agencies aren't consistent in how they report. Some states, including New York, reported no justifiable homicides at all for some years. In recording the circumstances of a murder, the information recorded in the FBI data may capture only the relationship of the killer to one of the victims -- but not other victims -- in a given situation. Because of the unlimited number of scenarios in which a homicide can occur, the coding used in the FBI database may not explain the full set of circumstances involved.
The data in this interactive is best read as a big-picture summary of the crimes committed nationwide. Not all descriptions may be completely accurate, and further details of specific situations are not available. The information in this database does not reflect convictions for murder or other criminal charges.

 

[Doer]

And gosh darn it. That looks like everything is going down except explosives, while drowning is regaining popularity.

A mother just tied to drive out into the ocean...tried? She did and the wave were tossing the car. Trying to kill her kids.

 

[Doer]

Wall street Journal.

http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/#view=all

Wall Street Journal got the Info from the FBI.

Methodology

The FBI collects this data from the states, except for Florida. Florida doesn't use the FBI's guidelines when reporting additional information about homicides. The FBI data don't capture all homicides. The states' reporting is voluntary, and the country's thousands of police agencies aren't consistent in how they report. Some states, including New York, reported no justifiable homicides at all for some years. In recording the circumstances of a murder, the information recorded in the FBI data may capture only the relationship of the killer to one of the victims -- but not other victims -- in a given situation. Because of the unlimited number of scenarios in which a homicide can occur, the coding used in the FBI database may not explain the full set of circumstances involved.
The data in this interactive is best read as a big-picture summary of the crimes committed nationwide. Not all descriptions may be completely accurate, and further details of specific situations are not available. The information in this database does not reflect convictions for murder or other criminal charges.

Best to do raw feed. Why quote a newspaper when the next link is the source? Newspapers Lie.

 

[Beefbisquit]

And gosh darn it. That looks like everything is going down except explosives, while drowning is regaining popularity.

A mother just tied to drive out into the ocean...tried? She did and the wave were tossing the car. Trying to kill her kids.

Right on.

So, the stats show that by a striking margin, guns are the most used weapons in murders.

Wouldn't you agree?