The Scrog Club

[Growan]

hey, everyone 's doing something for the first time all the time. Today I started work on the makeover of a prison guard's front garden. Never done a garden make over, never worked for a prison guard. Funny old world!
I'm in soil, so although I understand ppm and some of what consider to be the more technical side of hydro, a lot of it is alien to me. I like the idea, and I plan on working up to it. I
I've 3 outdoor grows under my belt but this is my first indoor and scrog.
I like the rack with the essentials in, real tidy. Most of my stuff; blades, tools, spare bulbs are just occupying the same space as totes full of baby clothes, boxes of shite and lengths of timber. I aspire to a more lab like setup, but I'm basically a rough fucker, so spilt soil and rummaging for tools are my m.o.

 

[Growan]

View attachment 3029848View attachment 3029850View attachment 3029853First attempt to grow and scrog everything in the net is one plant with exception of thai peppers and 2 branches from rear plant i didn't think would make it

Well why not drag the neighbors in too? I'd like to grow chillies, they're another potent plant with a lot of varieties, so loads of scope for growing.
Tidy scrogging, how long into veg/flower cycle?

 

[Deusracing]

I started around January 15th or so before that there were in a heated seedling thing with dome on it under 3 cfl to start germination. moved them into tent on the 15th so 6 weeks total veg 24/7 cycle 400mh started flower on February 24th. But in my veg cycle i was gone for 2 weeks and incurred 3 power outages but my girls love me so there doing just fine now. I stripped one out i thought was male at least seasoned grower told me that come to find out NOPE.. but anyhow.just swapped out 19 dollar ups to the hortilux super ups 400w
im a impatient dumbass i killed that light let her cool for few minutes and popped the hortilux right in.. So much better quality light

 

[Growan]

If they can survive 2 weeks absence and power cuts and still love you, you must be doing something right. Don't know how many holiday's you'd get away with though!

 

[Deusracing]

well lets see as long as there is food and water they are just fine. They survive in nature everyday with all sorts of climate changes....

 

[Deusracing]

well what do you thinkl

 

[Growan]

Looking pretty good to me! I started a werk or so earlier, and vegged til 28th feb. So another grower running parallel, which is great. It's going to be interesting seeing them all grow up together. Mines a garden center grow, standard soil and feed, nothing branded, fortified or fancy. What are you running?

It's fucking snowing outside.

 

[Hobgoblit]

You guys should try RDWC...honestly, it's sooo fuckin easy.

 

[Hobgoblit]

Day 5 Flowering...EC 1.7...PPM 850...PH 5.8 and steady

 

[Growan]

What bucket setup are you using, or did you diy it? There are some starting to show up on Uk ebay now with 'utopia' branding. They look ok, but I don't really know what I should be looking for. I don't know how much cheaper it would work out to build rather than buy a 4 bucket set?

 

[Hobgoblit]

I built the system myself, loosely based on the Undercurrent systems that are out there. Definitely cheaper. The 4 pot UC is $1000, I spent about $200 to build mine. I use an aquarium chiller that's rated for 20 gallons, cost me $100 on ebay. Everything else came from my local hardware store. Took me a while to get it right...I used low profile totes on my first run, turns out DWC has amazing root growth, so my totes were too small. Constantly had issues. 5 gallon buckets or something larger is the way to go. I use a 20 gallon ice chest for the res, which makes it easy to pull all the water out of the system and into one place for adjustments...I also have enough room to add 1 more bucket to the system without overflowing the res. It's definitely a good idea in the beginning to have someone who has experience to talk to.

 

[Growan]

Yeah I imagine you could get into deep water (a pun, see ) pretty quickly just setting out on your own trying to build something that is essentially a life support system. I'll definately do it one day. My first priority is to get my head round optimum number of plants, when to veg and further how to grow scrog perpetually in my 120x120. Then get another one to double yield. THEN, only then, I will crawl out of the dirt and go hydro. at which point, expect a call!

 

[Growan]

Fucking double posting phone...

 

[Growan]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gardman-Greenhouse-Staging-Shelving-Double-Pack-/301097158389

What do recon to a 3 single shelves from one of these jobbies setup in a l= formation in 120x120 area? 2-3 plants per section, when one screen finishes, whip it out and stick in another pair or trio of plants ready for 12/12. might be s nice way to have 3 strains growing petpetual, as you could have them a month or so apart. veg for a month, flower for 2 ish, cut repeat. 3 strains with simelar grow times could be good...

 

[MuckyDucky]

I built the system myself, loosely based on the Undercurrent systems that are out there. Definitely cheaper. The 4 pot UC is $1000, I spent about $200 to build mine. I use an aquarium chiller that's rated for 20 gallons, cost me $100 on ebay. Everything else came from my local hardware store. Took me a while to get it right...I used low profile totes on my first run, turns out DWC has amazing root growth, so my totes were too small. Constantly had issues. 5 gallon buckets or something larger is the way to go. I use a 20 gallon ice chest for the res, which makes it easy to pull all the water out of the system and into one place for adjustments...I also have enough room to add 1 more bucket to the system without overflowing the res. It's definitely a good idea in the beginning to have someone who has experience to talk to.

What size is your grow area and how many plants do you have in your scrog? I know you posted this earlier but... I couldn't find it cause I didn't look!

 

[Hobgoblit]

2X4 tent, 1 plant right now, might put another pot in next grow.

 

[MariJesus]

2X4 tent, 1 plant right now, might put another pot in next grow.

You would probably be better off ScrOG'ing out this plant as a mother, pull yourself about 20 clones, and SoG in that space. 2x4 is rather small for a ScrOG, unless you aren't looking for much of a yield.

 

[Hobgoblit]

You would probably be better off ScrOG'ing out this plant as a mother, pull yourself about 20 clones, and SoG in that space. 2x4 is rather small for a ScrOG, unless you aren't looking for much of a yield.

Thanks for the advice, I may consider that in the future, but right now my space is limited. My other half is almost done with her BSN, so hopefully soon we will be moving to a larger house. Trust me, I have big plans...

 

[MuckyDucky]

2X4 tent, 1 plant right now, might put another pot in next grow.

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I am growing in a 2x4' area too and I was thinking of changing from my current ebb&flo flood table to RDWC with maybe 3 sites if I could keep cost under $200. I couldn't find a cheap chiller though. Did you find a used one for $100? Everything I saw was much higher. I finally decided to get a factory refurbed CAP ebb&flo controller for $99 and a 6 site expansion set for $65. Hopefully if my res is outside of my tent and I insulate the 1/2" feed lines the solution temps will be low enough without the chiller. This really looks like a fun project! I just hope hope it doesn't flood. My grow is on the second floor and would produce one hellofa mess.

 

[Hobgoblit]

Here's the chiller I bought off of Ebay, it's not the compressor kind. It uses some kind of chip to cool the water. Rated for 20 gallons or less. I like it, keeps my water @ 68 degrees.