Science Vrs The Bible .... explain to me Gobeklitepe

[Padawanbater2]

I asked him, “Hey dad, what do you think, they found some artifacts down in a dig in HB, any way, they carbon dated them, and they came back 10,000 + years old…what do you think of that?”

His answer, I believe, is the Christians view: “The carbon dating is wrong”

He went on to say: "Yes, the carbon dating is wrong, God created the heavens and the earth, with all these things in it, like whale bones in the Sahara... God made the earth with mysteries left behind... so son, some things you must believe on faith..."

He's right in that religion requires you to accept some things based on faith, but in my opinion he's wrong about ancient discoveries that date back thousands of years.

On the overall point of the thread, I disagree that religion and science can be mutually inclusive. Science fills the gaps that religion provides, and eventually, so long as humans exist, there won't be gaps for religion to reside

 

[SlowToker]

Wonderful replies but fact is something you can prove, religion is fiction, things that can NOT be proven.
Why would religion use the word FAITH if they could prove anything!! look up the word "faith", it tells the story.
Not bashing anyone for believing, we all have to have something to hold on to, mine is reality.
I'm just realistic, if you can't prove it, it's not on me to prove it does not exist.

Peace

 

[TakeTheTicket]

Religious people are zombies. Literally the walking dead as everything they do is ingenuine and for the purpose of getting into "heaven". They don't live life, they fake their way through it in hopes of a good afterlife. Christians pray on Sunday; the rest of the week they prey on others. Confess on Sunday... wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[SlowToker]

I disagree, there are people that do great things in the name of religion, they feed the homeless and under privileged.
They help people pay their heating bills in the winter and insure kids don't go hungry. They help pay for medicine.
They rise money to help the elderly cut there grass, paint their house,
Now I do agree they are the exception to the norm but you can't strike a blow to all religious people as they are not all cut from the same cloth. Just like POT SMOKERS, we are not all lazy pieces of crap. We are not thief's. We don't all walk around with long uncut unclean hair, we are not homeless and a lot of us work 40 hours a week or more. They are the exception to our rule. We don't like what most people think of when they hear POT SMOKERS and we have worked hard to prove them wrong. We did it in Caly starting in 1994, we did it in Colorado and we will continue to do it till we the POT SMOKERS get rid of the tags placed on us by the world.

When the temps drop I see people walking the streets, handing out blanks, food, and cloths in the name of God. Doing good in the name of anything can't be wrong or none of us have anything to live for.
I'm not a man of God but I do believe anything that helps people help others is a great thing, even religion.

Not bashing on anyone for believing or not... just my opinion.

Peace

 

[Padawanbater2]

I disagree, there are people that do great things in the name of religion, they feed the homeless and under privileged.
They help people pay their heating bills in the winter and insure kids don't go hungry. They help pay for medicine.
They rise money to help the elderly cut there grass, paint their house,
Now I do agree they are the exception to the norm but you can't strike a blow to all religious people as they are not all cut from the same cloth. Just like POT SMOKERS, we are not all lazy pieces of crap. We are not thief's. We don't all walk around with long uncut unclean hair, we are not homeless and a lot of us work 40 hours a week or more. They are the exception to our rule. We don't like what most people think of when they hear POT SMOKERS and we have worked hard to prove them wrong. We did it in Caly starting in 1994, we did it in Colorado and we will continue to do it till we the POT SMOKERS get rid of the tags placed on us by the world.

When the temps drop I see people walking the streets, handing out blanks, food, and cloths in the name of God. Doing good in the name of anything can't be wrong or none of us have anything to live for.
I'm not a man of God but I do believe anything that helps people help others is a great thing, even religion.

Not bashing on anyone for believing or not... just my opinion.

Peace

You're right, good people do good things in the name of their God, and I praise them for that, but that doesn't justify the bad things committed in the name of that same God.

It's our responsibility to point such things out

 

[SlowToker]

You're right, good people do good things in the name of their God, and I praise them for that, but that doesn't justify the bad things committed in the name of that same God.

It's our responsibility to point such things out

This I can agree with because every time I see the crazy church people on TV begging for money yet they have TV production stations these are the people that made me run from the church at a young age. I guess there is always some good in the bad and some bad in the good. I just hate blanket statements about people. I grew up in the south and never interacted with others till I joined the military in the early 70's. I found a completely new world I had been told was BAD by the church. I found friends of all colors and nationalities, I learned more in a few months with my new friends than I had learned in 18 years. People assumed I hated people unlike me because I was from the south, nothing could be more incorrect. I grew as a person and learned how stupid my friends and family really were when it came to the world we all live in. I moved so I could live in a deserve community and enjoy all the wonderful things different people bring to the table. People are what make living so much fun and I can't even begin to think how boring it would be if we all believed the same things and disliked people for just being different than ourselves.

Thanks for pointing this out, i was looking at it all wrong.

Peace

 

[THCbreeder]

Welp I totally disagree with all religions and faith based notion of a god. My outlook is simple . God is not real . A person of faith cannot show a single piece of evidence that physically proves his existence . We can explain things in reality through science . Or put together a pretty good theory that can be tested in reality . Religion however simply asserts that it is all knowing . That everything written down 2000 years ago is completely true . I think however religion is good for some people. People who need it , or just simply want to believe is okay by me . My ordeal is usually when I'm confronted on my beliefs and I have to drop logic bombs on religious minds . I always say at those moments that religious people are just like me . Their an atheist to every other god besides their own. I'm just an atheist who believes in one less god than them .!