giving defoliation during flower a try

WHODAT@THADOR

WHODAT@THADOR

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pk_boosted2 said:
It matters bcuz connoisseur is PH perfect and he said he was adjusting his ph in all his res's and having issues. So if he was using conny and using ph up or down he fucked his whole shit up which is why he had problems.

When u run connisseur u dont touch the ph it buffers for u!!! Duh
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/dyna-gro-vs-general-hydroponics-dumpster-grow.358562/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/dyna-gro-vs-advanced-nutrients-connoisseur-ak47-grow.429438/
I love dyna and I kno more people who would run it before they would ever touch AN;-)
 
Cannasutraorganics

Cannasutraorganics

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what.
pk_boosted2 said:
No fuckin way. He didnt know what he was doing. Canna and advanced will murder anything dyna gro can ever produce thats bs 100000%. I could get u a small army of my customers who r members on these forums who is reason i came on here, who can tell u for a fact that dyna gro sucks compared to advanced, h&g or canna. Thats a fact. Noone whose a big dog, commercial grower, care giver, dispensary runs dyna gro. And wince profits r the main reson to grow its so cheap if that shit was so good everyone wud use it and increase profits by 10000%. But they dont cuz it aint the case. Period. Dyna gro is man made synthetic bs filled with heavy metals, contaminants and fillers. It aint meant for pot its meant for veggies and ornamental plants. Its never been used to win any cannabis contest anywhere in world dont care what it is, whoever did that test had no idea how to use advanced nutrients.

U need run full strength w advanced. Its one of only canna specific nutes u cant treat it like these commercial ferts and other salts bcuz it was made to run exactly as labeled. Only time u get bad results is when u jump off their feed schedule n try do your own same for canna. Which is why both r the best companies on market. Ppm dont matter bcuz of way the nutes r designed and chelated if u run 1/4-1/2 strength u gonna have problems bcuz ur treating it like synthetic ferts that arent made for cannabis and thats when ur gonna get shitty results which is probably the case w ur boy.

If we call advanced tom told em we want all r money back cuz dyna gro gave us better results thats proly one time they wudnt give u money back bcuz hpthey wudnt even believe u were telling the truth. Period.
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BioCanna isn't chelated.
 
Hydroburn

Hydroburn

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I used DG over a year cuz of all the hype on these forums. To my disbelief I was getting shitty results and crystallized bottles. For a few grows I thought I was doing something wrong, but most people here are just repeating shit Homebrewer said when it comes to DG. After switching to pure blend pro, and now kind, the difference in flower is night and day. I straight up threw my last chunky crystallized quart of DG bloom in the garbage. Also noticed since i quit buying it, the same bottles of DG have been sitting on the shelf in the store for months... probably hear rattles of chunky salt if you shake the bottles... apparently i was the only one buying that shit around here.

I also tried GH flora, but I had to use like half a fuckin bottle to get ppm where I needed, so I did not flower with it.

I am not afraid to try new things though, both when I just want to try something new, and when shit clearly isnt working. One of the first things I learned here are very few actually try for themselves; most just repeat what theyve heard and do what theyve read. It is amazing how many retards give advice and opinions on shit they have never done or tried, just repeating nonsense they read.
 
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Aeroknow

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Hydroburn said:
I also tried GH flora, but I had to use like half a fuckin bottle to get ppm where I needed, so I did not flower with it.
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Every Botanicare base I've tried, usually took around 15ml/gal to get 1.7-1.8EC.
Most floraseries recipes=about the same.
 
Hydroburn

Hydroburn

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I think there are 3 general camps most growers fall into... ones that will try new things in search of best results.... ones that get satisfactory results, and then dont want to touch it and risk fucking it up and getting set back... and ones that are convinced they have mastered their setup and it cant possibly get any better, or the effort/cost to make it better isnt worth it.

I will always be in the first group.
 
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BROBIE

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pk_boosted2 said:
It matters bcuz connoisseur is PH perfect and he said he was adjusting his ph in all his res's and having issues. So if he was using conny and using ph up or down he fucked his whole shit up which is why he had problems.

When u run connisseur u dont touch the ph it buffers for u!!! Duh
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This test was conducted before PH-perfect came out

but there are other reasons why I think it failed.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Hydroburn said:
could be, I also noticed the botanicare is not as concentrated as dg.
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I switch up my nutes constantly, for many reasons. One reason, I get bored easily.
But, I had just got done rocking the flora-series for about a year. Cns-17 for 2 before that. And I get tired of using 15ml/gal. That's a huge volume of nutrients, to be buying/using, IMO.

I am currently back using the maxi-series bloom and the floranova grow(maxi grow works just fine though)
Maxi=4.5-5ml/gal
Floranova=4.5-5ml/gal
Both are COMPLETE nutrient lines, except for POSSIBLY(as with most nutes)needing some extra Ca and Mg if growing in Coco.

I've never tried DG. Can't speak for that.
I have tried a lot of different AN bases(oh, the blasphemy rite?). And Canna, and H&G: They all grow the same product in the end.
 
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Hydroburn

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My first grow was vegged with floranova, but it was giving me root problems. I think the 5% organic content does not do well in dwc.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Hydroburn said:
My first grow was vegged with floranova, but it was giving me root problems. I think the 5% organic content does not do well in dwc.
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Yeah, I would not recommend floranova for dwc. Nor would I recommend PBP. Shit, i don't recommend the cns17 in DWC, because it gunks shit up;-)
 
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Hydroburn

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I agree... I used pbp in coco a couple runs but not a fan of coco. i would not try it in dwc but i know some ppl do run floranova and pbp in the dwc forum. for dwc/aero I use kind which has been working as expected. no deficiencies, ph stable, not organic.... thats all I want really.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Hydroburn said:
for dwc/aero I use kind which has been working as expected. no deficiencies, ph stable, not organic.... thats all I want really.
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Those are the exact reasons I stuck with the flora-series when I was growing in my tubes for 11-12 yrs. Well, those reasons, and that was all we had to choose from back then heheheje.:-D
But seriously, the flora-series STILL holds it's own:-)
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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oh, and here is some more shit talking

YOU go to HYDRO store to buy nutes(genius) you buy DG because the pros on the forum are having great results with it, YOU do not notice that the HYDRO store doesn't push DG, so it has been there for awhile, yet YOU still decide to buy it. YOU then have no clue to store it properly so it doesn't change temps and clot up, then YOU still decide to use. YOU have no clue how to read your plants and adjust so YOU blame it on the DG. then YOU come on RIU and try and tell everyone that DG sucks. do YOU see a problem here?
 
pk_boosted2

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And the moron who ran this experiment was familiar with DG and had nonidea how to use AN!! If inswitch to snother nute company its gonna take me proly 3-5 runs to completely figure the shit out, anyone who grows consistently and is trying new things to improve their grows knows that simple fact.

Like I said the dude who tried using AN fucked the whole expeirment up and made it very clear he was wrong by way his plants reacted. There was nothing wrong w the bases if he ph'd them correctly then he wouldnt have had an issues. Then who knows how many ml/gal he ran from diff stages of growth bcuz thats important as well.

If im not familiar w how strong or concentrated a product is or how weak or dilluted it is im not gonna know how much to use or give it during my runs until its done several times over and over.

I think he was familiar with DG for this grow he ran AN not knowing anything but what the bottle said and he fucked his shit up for what reason idk but im positive if he continued to run same side by side with same nutrients and figured out his fuk up or mis step AN would win easily.
 
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