Bottom leaves yellowing W/ PICS

woody333333 said:
its over watered...... forget everything you think you know about ph if youre gonna grow in ffof.......ignore it....
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I gotta disagree with this. Ph shouldn't be ignored. With soil, it doesn't have to be monitored as hard as hydro. That doesn't mean you don't need to check it. Water you plant with a high phosphorus guano tee without ph'ing; ph would be like 4. Vise versa with a silica supplement. Yea, it might not show negative signs because the soil buffered it, but you just killed 1000s of microbes, causing the ones that are left to work that much hardier. Not healthy for your soil.

Perfection/optimal is different from acceptable.
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
I gotta disagree with this. Ph shouldn't be ignored. With soil, it doesn't have to be monitored as hard as hydro. That doesn't mean you don't need to check it. Water you plant with a high phosphorus guano tee without ph'ing; ph would be like 4. Vise versa with a silica supplement. Yea, it might not show negative signs because the soil buffered it, but you just killed 1000s of microbes, causing the ones that are left to work that much hardier. Not healthy for your soil.

Perfection/optimal is different from acceptable.
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crazy talk.......... I grow organic and my tap water comes out 8.4 ..waste of time...... problem w that plant is its overwatered........

microbes...... working...... gimme a break.....lol......read your book again.....
 
I already told him it was over watered. That isn't a question. Why can't we have a civil debate on it? Why is everyone so I'm right you are wrong. I said I disagreed with you, didn't say you were wrong.
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
I already told him it was over watered. That isn't a question. Why can't we have a civil debate on it? Why is everyone so I'm right you are wrong. I said I disagreed with you, didn't say you were wrong.
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its because im right....... and theres nothing to debate ..... you want debate bucks your guy ......... ph is the last thing that anybody needs to worry about w little plants in ffof ...... all else fails you put it in a bigger pot...... unless you failed to follow the directions and started in a pot that's way too big then youre just fukd for a couple weeks......
 
Well like I said before I disagree. Prove me wrong with some science an we can continue this conversation, other than that I just don't see it going anywhere with your attitude.

Everyone is valued their opinion.
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
Well like I said before I disagree. Prove me wrong with some science an we can continue this conversation, other than that I just don't see it going anywhere with your attitude.

Everyone is valued their opinion.
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how bout if I put a half a cup of Jamaican in a gallon of water ?????..... I got a couple big ones that would laugh at me.....
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
Not sure what you mean. Sorry to op for spamming your thread.
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I mean...grow your hydro and shut up about ph in soil......big waste of time....... all that does is confuse the new guys and cause them to dump more water in when water was the problem to start w........ if the ph in that pot is messed up its because its soaked it will be fine when it dries up.....
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
Hell yea, always wanted to grow some dwc trees lol. Been SOG since day one. You'll blow that 15 oz away in no time, in guessing that was with a 600?
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no that was with a 400 watt hps and using a net to scrog the plant or lst... i forget the correct name for it... but i used a net none the less, I have two tents for this go around... im only using the old 400 watt system right now tho... i can't wait to see what the 600 watter will haul in :fire:
 
woody333333 said:
I mean...grow your hydro and shut up about ph in soil......big waste of time....... all that does is confuse the new guys and cause them to dump more water in when water was the problem to start w........ if the ph in that pot is messed up its because its soaked it will be fine when it dries up.....
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well thats what i thought too, that it was over watered...but i haven't watered it in days now and it was bone dry in the center... so i watered it... hopefully it isn't over watered b/c if so... damn...lol but atleast its only the runt of the two... deff still need to get my shit dialed it... still relearning as a go

between the poor temps and the transplant im not exactly sure what the problem is, tho if its worse tommorow its prob safe to say its over watering... which if it is how long should i let the plant be dry before watering? to be honest i haven't had a soil grow since before i started my dwc so im ever more rusty in that regard... should i only be watering weekly, based off how young the plants are? i was just going by just when they felt dry in the middle
 
DrRonPaul2012 said:
well thats what i thought too, that it was over watered...but i haven't watered it in days now and it was bone dry in the center... so i watered it... hopefully it isn't over watered b/c if so... damn...lol but atleast its only the runt of the two... deff still need to get my shit dialed it... still relearning as a go
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youre in too big of pot..... you probably started in it...
 
woody333333 said:
youre in too big of pot..... you probably started in it...
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nah they were started in solo cups... i just transplanted it... the other one was starting to get root bound so by no means is that the case

and solo cups are 4" alone so i probably could have even gotten away with starting them in the 8"ers but i figured i'd play it on the safe side... considering its been awhile. its more like 7.5" pot anyways... i probably could/should have left this one in the solo cus its roots weren't as developed but i wanted to get it over with... :???:. i didn't expect that and since i already had it out of the cup... i figured why stress it out by waiting a few days to transplant it anyways
 
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woody333333 said:
I mean...grow your hydro and shut up about ph in soil......big waste of time....... all that does is confuse the new guys and cause them to dump more water in when water was the problem to start w........ if the ph in that pot is messed up its because its soaked it will be fine when it dries up.....
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Wow man, your attitude fucking sucks. I don't converse with people of your nature. Have a good one.
 
DrRonPaul2012 said:
no that was with a 400 watt hps and using a net to scrog the plant or lst... i forget the correct name for it... but i used a net none the less, I have two tents for this go around... im only using the old 400 watt system right now tho... i can't wait to see what the 600 watter will haul in :fire:
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That's awesome man, that's a great yield with a 400! How long do you train before flipping to 12/12?
 
Carolina Dream'n said:
That's awesome man, that's a great yield with a 400! How long do you train before flipping to 12/12?
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until the the 3x3 grid is pretty much filled with colas then i flip to 12/12... such a great and efficient way to grow

if you want a step by step guide use uncle. foreskin's guide... altough that might not be on rollitup but on grasscity
 
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