DiY LED - Cree CXA3070

Meinolf

Meinolf

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I think those LEDIL reflectors are way too overpriced and add significant cost to any build. Come on, it's just plastic. From the pictures they also seem to be somehow transluscent which makes me wonder about the quality. I think you may be better off using any cheap similar shape and paint it white.
 
Positivity

Positivity

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$10 apiece is butt rapage

I'd boycott their arses until they get there prices in check. I i initially paid $5 each and I thought that was high.

You can get the same effect spreading out your cobs and getting them closer to the canopy...ala supra..

I've kinda promoted them, showing them off, but if you pay attention they go on and off, usually off....:wink:

They will make a strong light...HID style..but even more focused than most hps hoods. Like a high up gavita....
 
salmonetin

salmonetin

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...ledil reflectors needs adaptation work for the wires of the thermocouple in the tc point...

...somebody test temps (reflector on board) on these way?.... sds do modifications but i dont remember if he go with reflector on board on her temp led tests...

saludos
 
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Positivity

Positivity

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salmonetin said:
...ledil reflectors needs adaptation work for the wires of the thermocouple in the tc point...

...somebody test temps (reflector on board) on these way?.... sds do modifications but i dont remember if he go with reflector on board on temp led tests...

saludos
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I will check sometime soon hopefully salmone, next time light is free..

Its possible to test using modified ideal holder and reflector adapter. Could check reflector, reflector with diffuser lens, open....still haven't picked up a glass bubble type

Just curious...then I know when someone wants to sell me something..I know what they are selling....;).
 
marv2106

marv2106

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alesh said:
Not really, you'd better fully load the driver. What you planned was about 115-120V and the driver provides up to 215V. Same story with 3x CXB3070.
You can hook up 6x CXB3070 on the driver or choose the 1400mA version which is fine for 3x CXB3070. On the other hand, 200W of quality LEDs over 2'x1' area is total overkill (I'd aim for half) so you might be looking for a smaller driver or a larger space.

And yeah, 3000K + 730 nm at lights out sound like the most reasonable combo to me.
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Thanks for the help ALESH !! And thank you too Captain, I went through more of your post and decided to go with your specs. I was over thinking this whole thing. So here it goes I will go with :

1x Cree CXB 3070 AB30G 55$ ( http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=CXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30GvirtualkeyCXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30Gvirtualkey941-CXB30700N0HAB30G )
1x Mean Well LPC-60-1400 25$
1x Ideal Cob solderless holder 2$ (newak)
1x Rosewill RXC-Z1 - CPU Cooler 15 $ ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014 )
1x misc. 8$
total : 100$

I think this should do the trick, Im not 100% sure on the Rosewill cpu cooler though, if someone could confirm it will do the job for 1 cxb3070 i would appreciate it. Ill build one and go from there to probably build many more.

Thank you all once again, it is because of you that I and probably many others started seeing what real led grow lights are and how to build them.
 
uzerneims

uzerneims

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marv2106 said:
Thanks for the help ALESH !! And thank you too Captain, I went through more of your post and decided to go with your specs. I was over thinking this whole thing. So here it goes I will go with :

1x Cree CXB 3070 AB30G 55$ ( http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=CXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30GvirtualkeyCXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30Gvirtualkey941-CXB30700N0HAB30G )
1x Mean Well LPC-60-1400 25$
1x Ideal Cob solderless holder 2$ (newak)
1x Rosewill RXC-Z1 - CPU Cooler 15 $ ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014 )
1x misc. 8$
total : 100$

I think this should do the trick, Im not 100% sure on the Rosewill cpu cooler though, if someone could confirm it will do the job for 1 cxb3070 i would appreciate it. Ill build one and go from there to probably build many more.

Thank you all once again, it is because of you that I and probably many others started seeing what real led grow lights are and how to build them.
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basically all cpu coolers will work :)
 
Positivity

Positivity

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marv2106 said:
Thanks for the help ALESH !! And thank you too Captain, I went through more of your post and decided to go with your specs. I was over thinking this whole thing. So here it goes I will go with :

1x Cree CXB 3070 AB30G 55$ ( http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=CXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30GvirtualkeyCXB3070-0000-000N0HAB30Gvirtualkey941-CXB30700N0HAB30G )
1x Mean Well LPC-60-1400 25$
1x Ideal Cob solderless holder 2$ (newak)
1x Rosewill RXC-Z1 - CPU Cooler 15 $ ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014 )
1x misc. 8$
total : 100$

I think this should do the trick, Im not 100% sure on the Rosewill cpu cooler though, if someone could confirm it will do the job for 1 cxb3070 i would appreciate it. Ill build one and go from there to probably build many more.

Thank you all once again, it is because of you that I and probably many others started seeing what real led grow lights are and how to build them.
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yep...don't use a t-slot unless you need to. Doesn't seem to cool as well as a nice and flat one piece bottom. My theory is the heat doesn't spread from the source as well.

Any cpu cooler will work like uzer said. Just keep an eye out for a nice flat bottom, quiet fans, and good reviews. Pretty sure that rosewill was the one supra tested and liked. Cpu cooler shopping is actually kinda fun I think, cool little devices..
 
alesh

alesh

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Positivity said:
yep...don't use a t-slot unless you need to. Doesn't seem to cool as well as a nice and flat one piece bottom. My theory is the heat doesn't spread from the source as well.

Any cpu cooler will work like uzer said. Just keep an eye out for a nice flat bottom, quiet fans, and good reviews. Pretty sure that rosewill was the one supra tested and liked. Cpu cooler shopping is actually kinda fun I think, cool little devices..
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It's also quite beneficial to make sure that the pad on the CPU cooler is large enough for the COB and the holder (been there).
 
SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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8valves4pistons2wheels said:
Supra, Bueno and the rest of you guys should be proud of yourselves you have another LED addict in the making : )
going with a modest cxa3070ab build in the 3k temp range 1400 ma driver and arctic alpine 11 cooler are all on their way. Unfortunatley it will not be used for the purpose that everyone here is using them for (yet) though i am hoping it will win me a more sunlight like light source to photograph my glass pieces under and say i made it ; ) id like to thank everyone involved in any diy cxa forum post anywhere because it is likely i have read it lol. Whoo first post nice meeting y'all.
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Depending on your camera setup, you might like the 4000K 90 CRi $28 (Digikey does not seem to have 90CRi on hand but may be able to get them. They do have the 4000K 80 CRi and 5000K 90 CRi). Since you would not be running them for long hours, efficiency not a big factor so you can push them to the maximum current or beyond. With the Vero29 V2.0 on Arctic 64 Plus or Rosewill RCX-Z1, 12V-15V fan speed and good thermal paste, you could push it very hard for a few hours at a time and should get many years of service. I have not tried running a Vero29 that hard but I did run a Vero 10 at 2X max current for an hour or so and it did not seem to mind at all.

The Mean Well HLG-185H-42 will push a Vero29 to 4.5A (185W) and is dimmable, $64. ~15000 lumens of 90 CRi. I might have to try that too. Digikey does have the Vero18 2700K 97 CRi on hand.
 
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Growmau5

Growmau5

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Diy'ers on this forum often talk about adding additional deep red 3w luxeons to their 3&4k cxa builds, but I never read about people incorporating a single high cri cob into say a 9 cob build. Doesnt the cxa 3070 3000k Y2 bin (90+ CRI) have a similar 600+nm peak?
 
8valves4pistons2wheels

8valves4pistons2wheels

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Sorry i should have been more clear im making them to be grow capable but i will likely use them as spotlights over my torch at first so efficiency and longevity was kept in mind as well. slowly building my armada of hover lights so when my homie and i find a place out here we can pretty much jump right into it no assembly required. Also their are a few led non believers i might lend one out to for their veg room or somthing similar. Definatley appreciate you bringing some more info about more directions we could take these though i have stashed away your knowledge for future reference : )
 
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PurpleBuz

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Growmau5 said:
Diy'ers on this forum often talk about adding additional deep red 3w luxeons to their 3&4k cxa builds, but I never read about people incorporating a single high cri cob into say a 9 cob build. Doesnt the cxa 3070 3000k Y2 bin (90+ CRI) have a similar 600+nm peak?
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generally the high CRI cobs aren't nearly as efficient as supplementing with 660 deep red monos. Somebody on rollitup a while back did some data interpretation comparing regular CRI and hi-CRI and found that high cri are significantly less efficient than a standard CRI led.

Producing light with leds and all the other phosphor based lights (t5s, cfls, induction) is also less efficient at longer wavelengths, and phosphor based leds (like cobs) is less efficient than monos.

Makes sense to use the most efficient source to supplement the primary source of light for missing wavelengths especially deep red (660nm),UVA UVB. Supplementing with a high CRI cob adds in a lot of wavelengths that don't need supplementing, 500 - 600 nm, since they are well covered with the other cobs.
 
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