The Four Biggest Right Wing Lies About Income Inequality

[Wavels]

So what is he incorrect about? Let's examine it

Did you not watch Friedman's video that I posted? It is not even 3 minutes in length...
This is quite a succinct refutation of the wayward notion that capitalism does not work!
Capitalism and free markets are far from perfect, they actually suck.
They simply suck less than any alternative as yet devised by man.
The human condition has been advanced (in toto) far more by the dread capitalistic economies than any alternative historically.
Utopia is unattainable and the quest thereof leads to ruination and despair.

 

[nitro harley]

By going to college

It's free in Oregon so it will be up to them to go now. I am hoping trade schools become free someday because we need more tradesman and craftsman to boost small business's . Thats where the money is at, if you have a trade or a skill that will get you to be self employment some day then you can be the one that writes the checks. " And yes you can do it" . that phrase should be a campaign bumper sticker.

 

[see4]

Probably nothing. You seem to like Bucks lies about people so it is hard to tell when you are not lying to be honest.

So by me liking UB's comments, I'm therefore a lair? That's quite a leap in logic. I think it's time for you to take your meds and go to bed.

 

[Fogdog]

I am gonna take a wild guess that you didn't avail yourself of those socialist benefits. Am I right?

My total income from three years of army service was less than $12,000. My total GI bill benefits during four years of college was a little more than $10,000.

The current GI bill is much more generous. Tell your kids to grab some of those freebies! My oldest son did.

Hey, I'm absolutely good with you or your dude persona taking advantage of GI benefits that you or your persona accrued serving this country. At face value, the pay sucks but the service is needed and you or your persona made the benefits work for you or your persona. Bravo

For myself, I'm not cut out for the military. I don't take orders very well but have much respect for those that served. I was just pointing out that the service is the largest socialist organization in this country. Apparently, you see a lot of good in what you or your persona did while working for socialists. I don't disagree.

What other socialist organization are there you might ask? Public education, fire fighters, police, departments of transportation, the park service and so forth. We might pick a bone about some of their actions but by and large, they are necessary to the operation of this country at this time. I respect these government workers (not necessarily the bosses) too. Their pay isn't the best but the ones that I know are committed to doing a good job and they are working towards a well funded retirement. I don't hold that against them either.

Don't like what I said? Well I suppose that you can not like it as much as you want. Its a free country due in part to the sacrifices that are made by those that served.

 

[Fogdog]

@Wavels, Denmark has a very different economic system to your free market capitalism and its people have higher standard of living, happier, has practically no corruption, well educated population, low crime and so forth. I can name other examples of alternative economies. I'm just pointing this out because you right wingers keep repeating that old chestnut about capitalism being bad but there are no better alternatives without questioning it. The statement is wrong, you are wrong and that Fried man was wrong.

 

[Fogdog]

I'm not sure if this was directed at me but if it is, I posted the source at the bottom of the OP. The point is the system we live in unfairly favors the wealthy class in every facet of our lives, from the cycle of poverty to the war on drugs to the politicians we elect to represent us. I'm suggesting we work to change this system to suit the interests of the majority of Americans, not just the wealthy elite.

uhh no. I was replying to Spandy. He copied something and I would have liked to read the article. I just want to know what the idiot is trying to say and rather than expect the gasbag to explain himself, I figured I'd do better if I could refer to what it is that's telling him what to think.

 

[spandy]

uhh no. I was replying to Spandy. He copied something and I would have liked to read the article. I just want to know what the idiot is trying to say and rather than expect the gasbag to explain himself, I figured I'd do better if I could refer to what it is that's telling him what to think.

What? Why do you insist that others spoon feed you information?

I didn't receive the proper documentation for you to receive a "free" tax payer funded education, so you are gonna have to look that shit up yourself.


Poor people have poor ways.

 

[Fogdog]

I didn't receive the proper documentation for you to receive a "free" tax payer funded education, so you are gonna have to look that shit up yourself.

Poor people have poor ways.

Good riposte sir.

 

[Padawanbater2]

uhh no. I was replying to Spandy.

My bad, I have him on ignore, none of his content comes up, it just looked like a normal reply without the quotes

 

[Fogdog]

I didn't receive the proper documentation for you to receive a "free" tax payer funded education, so you are gonna have to look that shit up yourself.


Poor people have poor ways.

Ok, so its from Dave Ramsey and he's a pretty good guy. I'm not Christian but that doesn't mean that I can't listen to people that spout prayse jaysus but have something useful to say. The list is just that -- and the reader can take what they want from it. I don't think your intention was the same as his but then again, I'm projecting. His article contained another pithy passage:

"Biblically speaking, poverty is caused and perpetuated primarily by some combination of three things:

1. Personal habits, choices and character;
2. Oppression by people taking advantage of the poor;
3. The myriad of problems encountered if born in a third-world economy."

Its too bad that the religious right and from what I gather from your postings here, you, focus only on the first line. Dave Ramsey also believes that in the US, the only person that can affect their financial situation is that person. Sounds nice, sounds like something that would be nice to believe. Its true that a few people manage to overcome their situation in life but why don't the others? Why don't they? Wouldn't it be better if we found out why and put effort into removing those causes for failure? You can't tell me that people live in poverty, live in the "war zone" as DD says because they like it. I don't have an answer but I also don't put it on all of the poor to pull themselves out of it. That only works for a few percent. If Christians indeed want to end poverty then they should be pushing for more creativity than that.

 

[Fogdog]

My bad, I have him on ignore, none of his content comes up, it just looked like a normal reply without the quotes

LOL, I was wondering why you missed it. That's funny.

 

[desert dude]

My bad, I have him on ignore, none of his content comes up, it just looked like a normal reply without the quotes

You have Spandy on ignore, and not me. This, sir, is an outrage!

 

[desert dude]

Very unlikely you could pin me down based on the information provided. But by all means, give it a try.

Frat boy, yes, but nothing at all like Dubyah - my IQ likely doubles his.
Self-entitled? What have I said so far that leads you to believe that? Or are you just trying to stereotypically make jabs at me?

I have no interest in pinning you down or doing intel on you to figure out who you are. Likewise, I won't be threatening to murder you and your family while you sleep. I am neither an internet tough guy, nor a violent guy in real life; I am a grown up.

The stench of your self-reverence fills the room when I read your posts. I met guys like you in college. Dan Quayle is a guy like you. One of Quayle's professors described him as the most vapid person he had ever met. I read that description decades ago and still remember it. You're probably not as vapid as Dan, but that still leaves a lot of room for improvement. See, I complimented you: You're not as vapid as Dan Quayle.

Yes, it is a stereotypical jab. Stereotypes arise because they describe common characteristics. You seem to fit the one I used. You don't sound like somebody I would enjoy playing billiards with, and I am sure that is of no concern to you.

 

[desert dude]

Hey, I'm absolutely good with you or your dude persona taking advantage of GI benefits that you or your persona accrued serving this country. At face value, the pay sucks but the service is needed and you or your persona made the benefits work for you or your persona. Bravo

For myself, I'm not cut out for the military. I don't take orders very well but have much respect for those that served. I was just pointing out that the service is the largest socialist organization in this country. Apparently, you see a lot of good in what you or your persona did while working for socialists. I don't disagree.

What other socialist organization are there you might ask? Public education, fire fighters, police, departments of transportation, the park service and so forth. We might pick a bone about some of their actions but by and large, they are necessary to the operation of this country at this time. I respect these government workers (not necessarily the bosses) too. Their pay isn't the best but the ones that I know are committed to doing a good job and they are working towards a well funded retirement. I don't hold that against them either.

Don't like what I said? Well I suppose that you can not like it as much as you want. Its a free country due in part to the sacrifices that are made by those that served.

I can't quite decide whether I like you, or think you're a wordy ass. I will ask my persona what she thinks.

 

[desert dude]

You do know it was a socialist institution that helped you out of the poverty trap don't you. Go socialism, I mean Army.

At least that's the story for your persona, not sure that I believe that its you.

I find it funny that you lefties spout that "the Army is a socialist organization" meme, and none of you would touch it with a ten foot pole despite all being socialists. Tell me what is socialist about it?

I recommend military service to every young guy. My oldest son, and my youngest adopted son both joined the Army. My youngest is still in. It is a great adventure, with some risks I will admit. I just read a Yahoo story about the French Foreign Legion. If I was 18, I would seriously consider doing that solely for the adventure of it.

 

[desert dude]

Hey DD, I see we are sharing life stories and mine was a little different. I grew up in a military family and finished the tenth grade before my father gave me the boot for partying to much and smoking dope in the house. So then I went on a journey across america from the west coast and ended up in New Orleans for Mardi gras in 73/74. I slept under over passes and at missions in the city, gave blood for some cash and did some serious partying for awhile and then after seeing what road I was going down I decided to go back to the west coast before I got killed or in jail. And I did get thrown in jail before I left that city for about ten days.

And that experience made me decide what road I wanted to go down later in life, and when I look back I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. When a person has a good look at what the bottom looks like it helps you make better decisions the rest of your life.

Yeah, we are similar. I didn't party like you, though.

To be honest about my ghetto life, I had a lot of fun as a kid. I didn't know I was poor because we all were. I even served four months in jail at age 15 because I was an incorrigible truant; that was not much fun. There is another fact for Buck to put in his stalking database.

 

[Fogdog]

I can't quite decide whether I like you, or think you're a wordy ass. I will ask my persona what she thinks.

Don't like me.

I find it funny that you lefties spout that "the Army is a socialist organization" meme, and none of you would touch it with a ten foot pole despite all being socialists. Tell me what is socialist about it?

I recommend military service to every young guy. My oldest son, and my youngest adopted son both joined the Army. My youngest is still in. It is a great adventure, with some risks I will admit. I just read a Yahoo story about the French Foreign Legion. If I was 18, I would seriously consider doing that solely for the adventure of it.

I have a brother that did well by the Navy. I'm an independent cuss and need to know why when told to do something. You tell me how well that would go over in the service. No sir, I wouldn't recommend the military to just any young person. There are plenty of people on the left who served, by the way. You generalize too much, not that that's just an attribute of right wingers.

And just so you know, I don't put much stock into the personal tales told here. You can be whatever you like online and omit whatever you like. I still think you are a nazi narco informant rat.

 

[desert dude]

Perspective is always a good thing.

 

[desert dude]

Don't like me.

I have a brother that did well by the Navy. I'm an independent cuss and need to know why when told to do something. You tell me how well that would go over in the service. No sir, I wouldn't recommend the military to just any young person. There are plenty of people on the left who served, by the way. You generalize too much, not that that's just an attribute of right wingers.

And just so you know, I don't put much stock into the personal tales told here. You can be whatever you like online and omit whatever you like. I still think you are a nazi narco informant rat.

I wish more wealthy people would do a hitch in the service.

I think See4 might benefit from it, for example. Buck too, though he is probably too old and fat for it now.

 

[UncleBuck]

The stench of your self-reverence fills the room when I read your posts.