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ttystikk

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@abe supercro Lots of interesting ideas! I'll address them in no particular order. First, placing a panel against the wall will hurt air circulation badly, not recommended. You'll end up with PM and worse buried in there, the canopy really thrives on airflow.

Second, wheels only make sense with soil or similar, RDWC gets in the way. I made doorways and aisles inside to get around and work the plants. It was okay.

Third, the whole reason the silo was round to begin with was to manage the lamp to leaf distance and thus enhance efficiency. Leaving big gaps defeats the purpose.

The oval shape was adopted to create a six panel shape from the original silo. Now there's room for at least two columns of lighting. I installed five 860CDM lamps in an X pattern and would be happy with them except they LIE! Between them and the recommended ballast, I'm actually pulling 1100W for each lamp. I was so pissed off I made the decision to go COB LED... exclusively.

Another interesting finding was that the flat panels did a lot better than the curved ones and a closer inspection revealed why; the thicker the canopy on the curved panel, the less surface area it presents to the light, resulting in excessive crowding and shading.

If your plan is to use 600W lamps I think that could work very well, with the following caveats; try to maintain at least 30W/ft^2 and strive to build only one layer of plants on the trellis.
 

Oregon Gardener

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It's an aero cloner. Nothing too fancy. There is a lot of potential heat nearby with half a dozen magnetic ballasts, but they're only on half the time.
What the poster said about the moon kinda made me stop and think about some Scooby Doo mysteries that I have had with cloning. :-? I have had them just sit there, and then explode. Albeit some strains clone harder than others, but I pretty much been cloning the same two strains for several years. Other stuff comes from trades and such. I have in desperate moments, added a dash of Liquid Karma into the res and they took off. if my tips get icky or scab up, on occasion will re-cut.( I keep moms so most of the time I just cut new) With rock wool, I would put more root hormone in the cube. I have cloned thousands of mj clones. Also I have cloned tens of thousands of miniature roses as I was the bust ass labor do all for a propagator. I have never seen a ghost but I have noticed some strange phenomenon with plants. I think I'm going to break down and buy a calendar. Anyway I like these two products. Don't read the label or you won't want to put it on your plants LoL. The Clonex in my opinion is best over all, but if you are working with hard cuttings the other stuff soaks in better. That's my 2 cents.Good luck. O.G.
 

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dodacky

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I was brainstorming ways to do that without cooking the rest of the room, haven't settled on anything yet.
this past of the world where I am gets low temps all year round. ive got a diy aeroclone and never had much luck. a mates using it at the moment and placed a small aquarium heater in bottom and has worked wonders. just set the temp and itll keep it constant
 

abe supercro

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Another interesting finding was that the flat panels did a lot better than the curved ones and a closer inspection revealed why; the thicker the canopy on the curved panel, the less surface area it presents to the light, resulting in excessive crowding and shading.

If your plan is to use 600W lamps I think that could work very well, with the following caveats; try to maintain at least 30W/ft^2 and strive to build only one layer of plants on the trellis.
six panels ok, well gonna consider two panel lengths, not angled. good point about more air! . ive gotta read back into this thread before '16. one layer design
 

Michael Huntherz

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One of the reasons I like your posts so much is that you're a fuckin' smart-ass, JUST LIKE ME!
We totally got off on the wrong foot when I first signed up, but I respect the hell out of someone such as yourself who can engage in critical thinking without having to carry their ego around everywhere. Most of us carry it around most of the time, but it is good to know when to put it away, and I've seen you do it more than once. "Mad props" as the kids say.

I also edit everything I post an average of 5 times, probably. It helps make me sound smarter and be funnier than I actually am.
 

ttystikk

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six panels ok, well gonna consider two panel lengths, not angled. good point about more air! . ive gotta read back into this thread before '16. one layer design
All of my panels, curved or not, are 4' wide x 6' tall. I'm going to flatten those used for the COB array so they're all straight.

Ive had a few people suggest I create a round light emitting tower of some sort for the Super Silo, but as I mentioned above, its shape was there for the specific reason of catching and utilizing light from an omnidirectional light source.

COBs are directional, so the round shape no longer makes sense. Also, since 98% of all indoor spaces have square corners, I'd rather declare the Super Silo obsolete than continue on a pointless quest to pound round units into square holes.
 

ttystikk

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We totally got off on the wrong foot when I first signed up, but I respect the hell out of someone such as yourself who can engage in critical thinking without having to carry their ego around everywhere. Most of us carry it around most of the time, but it is good to know when to put it away, and I've seen you do that. "Mad props" as the kids say.

I also edit everything I post an average of 5 times, probably. It helps make me sound smarter and be funnier than I actually am.
We did, but as I recall we got over ourselves fairly quickly. Anyway, no hard feelings here.

I too know the power of the edit. It is a force for good- if used wisely.
 

Michael Huntherz

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We did, but as I recall we got over ourselves fairly quickly. Anyway, no hard feelings here.

I too know the power of the edit. It is a force for good- if used wisely.
Oh yeah we both calmed down pretty quick! I have been playing with some grow software ideas, we should talk again soon. Sunday, maybe?
 

ttystikk

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My HVAC guy and I have a date to go look at hot water baseboards tomorrow. The hot side circuit has been tested and warmed 45 gallons of water from 54 degrees to 80 in less than twenty minutes. I have a 75 gallon domestic hot water storage tank with natural gas backup to install, I think the heat pump will do just fine keeping it warm, along with everything else!
 
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