Mau5Capades: builds & grow journal

BobCajun

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To avoid stretch, Keep the lights closer until 3rd week of flower.

Also 12/12 from seed with regular seeds use less power and yield more than autos, when grown properly.
But are the plants as short? Here's an experiment for someone with auto seeds; one in 12/12, one in 20/4 and one in continuous. See how they differ. I predict that the 12/12 will stretch.
 

GreenSanta

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But are the plants as short? Here's an experiment for someone with auto seeds; one in 12/12, one in 20/4 and one in continuous. See how they differ. I predict that the 12/12 will stretch.
It depends a lot on the strain, grow a pure indica 12/12 from seed and they don't stretch but I get better yield with hybrids.
 

BobCajun

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It depends a lot on the strain, grow a pure indica 12/12 from seed and they don't stretch but I get better yield with hybrids.
I see, nonetheless I'm pretty sure most strains stretch a lot under 12/12 but it appears that there's no way to avoid it. I still think autos would get stretchy under 12/12 like a photoperiod plant. Let's just call it a hunch.
 

PurpleBuz

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I see, nonetheless I'm pretty sure most strains stretch a lot under 12/12 but it appears that there's no way to avoid it. I still think autos would get stretchy under 12/12 like a photoperiod plant. Let's just call it a hunch.
who cares the only use for autos is outdoors\greenhouse for long day summers to get flowering early enough to finish before winter.
 

ttystikk

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I see, nonetheless I'm pretty sure most strains stretch a lot under 12/12 but it appears that there's no way to avoid it. I still think autos would get stretchy under 12/12 like a photoperiod plant. Let's just call it a hunch.
Extra N and extra blue in the lighting spectrum during the first three weeks will both slow the stretch.
 

pop22

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No, the best use for autos is continual harvest. I run a strain that finishes in 60 days or less and gives me 3+ ounces per plant. my best from a 70 day auto so far is 7 ounces. don't discount autos for any reason! and is is without a doubt top shelf bud. Autos grow slower in a greenhouse/outdoors so I prefer them for indoor grows.
I'm currently growing an Auto Ultimate from Dutch Passion. I'm hoping for a least a pound, but these tend to go 90 days. I have however seen one grow of these hit 998 grams!

who cares the only use for autos is outdoors\greenhouse for long day summers to get flowering early enough to finish before winter.
 

BobCajun

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who cares the only use for autos is outdoors\greenhouse for long day summers to get flowering early enough to finish before winter.
Not necessarily. Due to being able to use long day length, you may be able to get shorter plants and more weight per plant and possibly more resin. You could experiment and find the exact day length that produces highest yields, since you can use whatever you want. The only downsides are higher power usage and having to take whatever phenos you get from the seeds. I was really just using autos as a possible way to test my theory that long nights cause stretching though.
 

pop22

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No stretch is not affected by light period in autos in my experience. Just end up smaller. I run mine 18/6.

And you know what I find hilarious? People will spend thousands of dollars to get a great growroom setup, then worry about the cost of electricity! I don't care how much you pay per kwh, your crop is worth a hell of a lot more! lets use an average value of $250/oz. say you average 3 oz per grow. That's $750 worth of weed, minus say $100 for electric.... How many grows till everything is paid for?

Personally, I'm at the point were my per grow costs are around $65 for electricity. Because I grow in organic soil, material cost are about $1.00 a plant, probably way less than that!
So sometimes I run certain strains on 24/7. I can afford that much easier than I can $400oz weed or $60 a gram shatter!

But are the plants as short? Here's an experiment for someone with auto seeds; one in 12/12, one in 20/4 and one in continuous. See how they differ. I predict that the 12/12 will stretch.
 

OneHitDone

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No stretch is not affected by light period in autos in my experience. Just end up smaller. I run mine 18/6.

And you know what I find hilarious? People will spend thousands of dollars to get a great growroom setup, then worry about the cost of electricity! I don't care how much you pay per kwh, your crop is worth a hell of a lot more! lets use an average value of $250/oz. say you average 3 oz per grow. That's $750 worth of weed, minus say $100 for electric.... How many grows till everything is paid for?

Personally, I'm at the point were my per grow costs are around $65 for electricity. Because I grow in organic soil, material cost are about $1.00 a plant, probably way less than that!
So sometimes I run certain strains on 24/7. I can afford that much easier than I can $400oz weed or $60 a gram shatter!
I what area is your crop till worth $250/oz?
 

bassman999

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No stretch is not affected by light period in autos in my experience. Just end up smaller. I run mine 18/6.

And you know what I find hilarious? People will spend thousands of dollars to get a great growroom setup, then worry about the cost of electricity! I don't care how much you pay per kwh, your crop is worth a hell of a lot more! lets use an average value of $250/oz. say you average 3 oz per grow. That's $750 worth of weed, minus say $100 for electric.... How many grows till everything is paid for?

Personally, I'm at the point were my per grow costs are around $65 for electricity. Because I grow in organic soil, material cost are about $1.00 a plant, probably way less than that!
So sometimes I run certain strains on 24/7. I can afford that much easier than I can $400oz weed or $60 a gram shatter!
That would be crazy to get that price or any near here in Sacramento lol, only in a club
 

Mary's Confidant

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No stretch is not affected by light period in autos in my experience. Just end up smaller. I run mine 18/6.

And you know what I find hilarious? People will spend thousands of dollars to get a great growroom setup, then worry about the cost of electricity! I don't care how much you pay per kwh, your crop is worth a hell of a lot more! lets use an average value of $250/oz. say you average 3 oz per grow. That's $750 worth of weed, minus say $100 for electric.... How many grows till everything is paid for?

Personally, I'm at the point were my per grow costs are around $65 for electricity. Because I grow in organic soil, material cost are about $1.00 a plant, probably way less than that!
So sometimes I run certain strains on 24/7. I can afford that much easier than I can $400oz weed or $60 a gram shatter!
I'm glad you find it funny but to many, it's a real cost that should be monitored. I can think of a few reasons that energy usage is important.

1. Commerical growers in illegal states - racking up big energy bills is, at minimum, reckless. The less your activities deviate from normal patterns, the better.

2. Monitoring your carbon footprint - those of us who would like to limit energy use for our existence and minimize monthly expenses are very much cognizant of every thing we do.

3. Personal growers - Those who have no interest in selling a single gram have a great incentive to reduce their numbers across the board. This covers the gamut from lights and media to genetics and storage. Reduce, reuse, recycle would be apropos for those of us who are not in this for commercial gain.

I'm willing to spend more up front for less maintenance and ongoing costs for reasons 2 & 3.
 
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