ThickStemz
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For those on the bottom. No doubt. For the middle class and upper class. Doubtful.
2,000 doctors say Bernie Sanders has the right approach to health care
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ThickStemz
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Did I say that?
Be honest.
But they would have a better idea. If theyre willing to be honest is a different story
In 2009, there were over 970,000 doctors of medicine all over the United States. This figure included more than 120,000 inactive and some 57,000 unclassified physicians. Thus, the U.S. has a less marked physician density compared to some other countries.
U.S. Physicians - Statistics & Facts | Statista
www.statista.com/topics/1244/physicians/
Uncle Ben
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You do realize there are DR's outside of hospitals, don't you?
I don't need to insult you, you do a good enough job of it on your own.
Total number of Dr's in the US in 2012 = 1,026,788
http://www.statista.com/statistics/186260/total-doctors-of-medicine-in-the-us-since-1949/
see4
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Yes, we are talking about active doctors who are in hospitals, not including general practice family care facilities. And the number is not 908k, it is 120k less than that.
Kaiser says there are 908,000 registered physicians in the United States, and more than 100,000 of them are inactive, and roughly 50,000 of them are unclassified, as in we don't know what they are doing. So really the number is around 760,000 physicians. Not 1,000,000. Your math is terrible. And you tiny penis is much larger than your tiny brain.
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see4
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970,000 - 120,000 - 57,000 = 793,000.
Not 1 million.
But I can totally see how your logic wants you to believe that 793,000 IS 1,000,000. Yep, totally the same number.
see4
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You should actually read what you are referencing. Or perhaps research a little more than doing a 2 second google search.
As of right now, there are roughly 760,000 active physicians practicing medicine in the United States. That number is about equal to all available beds in the United States. If all else were equal, that would mean there is roughly 1 doctor per available bed. We know this not to be true. So the question is then, how do we parse this information? I conclude that not all 760,000 physicians that are considered "active" are actually "active".
Olive Drab Green
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Gotta be honest, I don't hate on Obama, but ObamaCare was a pretty big clusterfuck of a mistake, mostly in implementation and translating theory to practice. Bernie's idea, which is that of some Scandinavian countries, is probably a better idea. Healthcare should be a basic human right. Fuck, we give appropriate medical aid to the same Afghani Muj and Taliban that are blowing us up over there. Why the fuck should you not be taken care of?
Near 800k and a million when compared to 2000 is more than close enough to say that not very many physicians have openly endorsed his plan.
But if you want to be trivial about things, then yes, 793k is not equal to 1 mil. Where do I send your blue ribbon?
Uncle Ben
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I've talked to too many doctors personally who will articulate why Obamacare is not a good thing and why they are tired of the bullshit paper work, lawsuits, mandated govt. controls and are getting out. There is a shortage of doctors and it will get worse.
This is what happens to any industry when people who don't know what they're doing, that group that calls themselves The Government, thinks they know better than the experts. Obamacare is nothing more than another failed govt. solution. But no worry, "you can keep your doctor"....if you can find him.
This is what happens to any industry when people who don't know what they're doing, that group that calls themselves The Government, thinks they know better than the experts. Obamacare is nothing more than another failed govt. solution. But no worry, "you can keep your doctor"....if you can find him.
see4
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No. It is not 793,000. The current stats is less than that.
Please, try to stick with factual information.
I am not debating that 2,000 of ~760,000 is very small percentages. That I agree. I just want people to be more accurate with the information they use to debate. Especially when the exaggeration works in the arguers favor.
I'm also debating the fact that the statistics are even accurate.
Statistics show that there are roughly 750,000 beds. And statistics also show that there are roughly 750,000 physicians. That implies there is roughly 1 doctor per available bed. Common sense and real life experience tells us that is not true. Not even by a long shot.
My current girlfriend is a nurse. I asked her this question. She stated to me that at her hospital there is 1 doctor for every 20 patients, roughly. I tend to believe what she says, and I also don't have any reason to believe it is any different anywhere else.
So instead of a 1:1 ratio as statistics report, I'm thinking the ratio is more like 1:20.
It also sounds to me you were arguing for that sake of arguing and not actually thinking about the bigger picture. Am I close?
see4
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Good. I'm glad you agree that when debating, it's good to stick to facts and not pull numbers out your ass.I stopped reading part way in, but I'm sure this is yours...
1,000,000 is not 760,000.
And we all know there is not 1 doctor for every available bed.
sheskunk, you know all about pulling things out your ass. you didn't enjoy it then, and we don't enjoy it now.
your 110 percent rite there is A VERRY BIG SHORTAGE of doctors in the usa that's why we have so many foren dr, here in the states and from my expernce the foren doctors are beter or have been beter to help me.most usa doctors onley care about the money and don't give a dame about humen life as they should..I got a dr, sued for he did surgery on me that should have never be dun and that's what other drs has told me and my lawer.there doing shit that they should not do just to get moor money where are helth care is fuck up so bad now and we can thank oboma for that.now are government is sending are drs to federal prison for the surgerys there doing to just make moor money.health care in this state is fucked up so bad now you cant even trust 90 percent of the drs here no moor.we can can thank obome for that.vote trump or the bitch will even make it worse.ky
londonfog
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Must have been a botched job on brain surgery. Yes you should sue
nothing to do with any kind of brain surgery.and smart ass your post mite one day come back to bite your sorey ass..ky