The homeless/zombie crisis.

[ttystikk]

You're welcome. I'm more than happy to help. I'm the closest thing we have to a dislike button here on the site.

Well shit- SOMEBODY has to step up and set the bad example, right?

Lol, kidding!

Besides, chunky drool already has that job for life by the looks of it.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Look, the .nobody. sock showed up to honor me.
Sweet...

 

[Chunky Stool]

@Big_Lou, try hanging out with homeless people when you aren't giving them anything for free.
Let us know how that goes...

 

[.nobody.]

Look, the .nobody. sock showed up to honor me.
Sweet...

Did I do that?

 

[Alienwidow]

Leaving the mentally ill and children on the streets will be another stain on America's history. It Is pretty easy to tell the truly mentally ill from the rest. They need a safe place and medication, period. Children need a safe place, period.

This thread is a fucking disaster.

Any truly homeless person will tell you the hardest things are having a solid address where you can get mail, and clothing. The city should provide a mailing address for those who need one. No packages, just mail. Goodwill and the Salvation army make a fortune selling donated items, tax free. We should give coupons at soup lines that allow the bearer to purchase clothing at these places for less than a dollar. It's a start.

I think this thread is more for shit talking and name calling than actually helping so I am out.

Gary, I think too many able folks are abusing the system now. Probably more than the actually needy. To me it's a real problem, and it will only get worse. Throwing money ata problem has not worked very well historically. We need solid ideas and implementation.

A place to shower, training, all important.

I still think taking the extra money for extra kids incentive would go a long way in helping bring down costs, making it easier to help those who need it.

Its true, the threads a disaster but good ideas like this are coming out of it so letter roll!

 

[Gary Goodson]

Look, the .nobody. sock showed up to honor me.
Sweet...

Hey Chunky, did you happen to read the post about my nephew? His mom is a meth whore and his father(my brother) is in prison. So right now my nephew doesn't have a place to call home. He does live with my aunt, but she is a royal fucking cunt. I can see him being angry and what they call a 'troubled teen'.

Now, as a teenager its not so easy to express your emotions because everything is new and you don't know how to deal with the things you're feeling. So I can see my aunt not understanding this and possibly kicking him out.

When that happens and trust me It just might. Should I open my door to him, knowing he is gonna come here with those same emotions and anger? Or do I look the other way and leave him out in the streets to become a "bio hazard" as you so eloquently put it?

Keep in mind, none of this is his fault or his choice. He didn't ask to be born, he didn't choose to have fucked up parents. but this is the hand he was dealt.

What would you do? And does it matter that he is my blood?

 

[Big_Lou]

Hey Chunky, did you happen to read the post about my nephew? His mom is a meth whore and his father(my brother) is in prison. So right now my nephew doesn't have a place to call home. He does live with my aunt, but she is a royal fucking cunt. I can see him being angry and what they call a 'troubled teen'.

Now, as a teenager its not so easy to express your emotions because everything is new and you don't know how to deal with the things you're feeling. So I can see my aunt not understanding this and possibly kicking him out.

When that happens and trust me It just might. Should I open my door to him, knowing he is gonna come here with those same emotions and anger? Or do I look the other way and leave him out in the streets to become a "bio hazard" as you so eloquently put it?

Keep in mind, none of this is his fault or his choice. He didn't ask to be born, he didn't choose to have fucked up parents. but this is the hand he was dealt.

What would you do? And does it matter that he is my blood?

You slam the friggin door right in that kid's FACE, Gary! You've got enough to worry about, and besides, it's not YOUR responsibility to feed and house some BIOHAZARD, am I right??

 

[Gary Goodson]

You slam the friggin door right in that kid's FACE, Gary! You've got enough to worry about, and besides, it's not YOUR responsibility to feed and house some BIOHAZARD, am I right??

I know you're joking Lou, but I would never. I have to look at myself in the mirror everyday.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Hey Chunky, did you happen to read the post about my nephew? His mom is a meth whore and his father(my brother) is in prison. So right now my nephew doesn't have a place to call home. He does live with my aunt, but she is a royal fucking cunt. I can see him being angry and what they call a 'troubled teen'.

Now, as a teenager its not so easy to express your emotions because everything is new and you don't know how to deal with the things you're feeling. So I can see my aunt not understanding this and possibly kicking him out.

When that happens and trust me It just might. Should I open my door to him, knowing he is gonna come here with those same emotions and anger? Or do I look the other way and leave him out in the streets to become a "bio hazard" as you so eloquently put it?

Keep in mind, none of this is his fault or his choice. He didn't ask to be born, he didn't choose to have fucked up parents. but this is the hand he was dealt.

What would you do? And does it matter that he is my blood?

Yes, it does matter that he is your blood. A good friend of mine has a son who moved to California and was a homeless addict for several years. Nobody made him do that. His family wouldn't put up with his behavior and he got sick of their "harassment" and hit the streets. Now he is disabled and in a mental institution (funded by taxpayers). He could have just as easily ended up in prison.
He was a good kid.
Who fucked up? How could it have been prevented?
I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't know what you should do. But I do feel for you and hope it works out.

 

[ttystikk]

I know you're joking Lou, but I would never. I have to look at myself in the mirror everyday.

The only biohazard here is chunky drool.

 

[420God]

Do the churches help much in these bad areas? Up here they do a lot.

 

[Gary Goodson]

Yes, it does matter that he is your blood. A good friend of mine has a son who moved to California and was a homeless addict for several years. Nobody made him do that. His family wouldn't put up with his behavior and he got sick of their "harassment" and hit the streets. Now he is disabled and in a mental institution (funded by taxpayers). He could have just as easily ended up in prison.
He was a good kid.
Who fucked up? How could it have been prevented?
I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't know what you should do. But I do feel for you and hope it works out.

But you feel for me why? Because you somewhat know me? How can you not have that same compassion for a random person you've never met? What if the only difference is that you have no ties to this unfortunate young man? He's a good kid bro... and worthy of a fighting chance at life.

Again, it not always so cut and dry.

Oh and for the record, I know exactly what I would do and who I am.

 

[Chunky Stool]

The only biohazard here is chunky drool.

Still weak...

 

[Gary Goodson]

The only biohazard here is chunky drool.

Nah, I wouldn't call him that. He just needs some perspective, some understanding, and some compassion.

 

[Alienwidow]

They are biohazards.
It's easy to be an idealist if you don't have to be around the mess they create. I personally witnessed what they did to the environment when they started camping by the railroad tracks. They turned a pristine outdoor wonderland into a stinky, trash-filled disaster -- complete with random hypodermic needles strewn about.
I have zero sympathy for these "people".

You have a valid point and one that also should be addressed. A good chunk of the homeless population has hepatitis, hiv, scabies, bed bugs or some type of transferable disease or problem. They are "biohazards"
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/08/shigella_outbreak_in_2015_spre.html

https://www.nhchc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Feb2005HealingHands.pdf

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/12/18/state-clears-homeless-camps-off-i-295-as-part-of-brush-removal-project/

http://www.king5.com/news/local/homeless/bed-bugs-a-big-problem-for-local-shelters/306117632

 

[Gary Goodson]

BTW fuck this new, more realistic Gary. He can EAD!

 

[ttystikk]

Do the churches help much in these bad areas? Up here they do a lot.

Sure they do, but THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

It is the job of our government to take care of those who cannot care for themselves.

This should be seen for what it is; an excuse for the rich and selfish to not pay their fair share of taxes.

 

[Gary Goodson]

Sure they do, but THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

It is the job of our government to take care of those who cannot care for themselves.

Is it not our responsibility to help out those in fucked up situations? What if someone got in a bad accident right as you were passing by? Do we just keep on driving? Or do we stop to help?

My friend saw a car drive off the road into a creek, the car was submerged in water. He stopped and there wasn't time to call for help. So he got in the water and saved them. He is good friends with their family to this day. I've even hung out with them and had some beers. They're good people.

 

[Big_Lou]

I know you're joking Lou, but I would never. I have to look at myself in the mirror everyday.

(I was answering on behalf of chunk-o-shit. )

Get in there and lend him a hand, man. My nephew was headed that way when my sister's 'husband' shit on his family, and I always tried to be there for him. No doubt he'd be in jail/perpetual rehab/dead if we didn't step up and set him straight. Now he's nearly 30, married, and enjoying life.

Do the churches help much in these bad areas? Up here they do a lot.

Yep, they do around here. We aren't religious whatsoever in the traditional sense, but I'll always align myself with the various churches/mosques/synagogues/etc. when feeding people is the goal.

 

[Chunky Stool]

But you feel for me why? Because you somewhat know me? How can you not have that same compassion for a random person you've never met? What if the only difference is that you have no ties to this unfortunate young man? He's a good kid bro... and worthy of a fighting chance at life.

Again, it not always so cut and dry.

Oh and for the record, I know exactly what I would do and who I am.

I don't know you very well, but you aren't a cunt most of the time, so...
The bottom line is that you can't help people who don't want help. The kid I mentioned was offered help many times while he was homeless. He liked the "free" lifestyle and *really* liked hard drugs. Truly a sad story, and I hope that doesn't happen you your nephew. Most people have family members who have been on public assistance because they were down on their luck. (WIC, welfare, medicaid, etc). That's what it is for.
As you mentioned earlier, giving them money is only going to make the problem worse -- and create more frauds. Some guys holding signs that say "homeless vet, please help" are neither homeless nor vets. But some of them really are! How do you know?
I never said that I had the answers. What I said was that I am totally unimpressed with what homeless people do to the environment, and now I'm the bad guy.