The homeless/zombie crisis.

[Alienwidow]

it is kind of easy but no one will ever do it as they think all ppl can be saved
1 start up a program where all of them get moved into apartments for 6 months
2 during that time they attend classes for basic job skills ....3 ,months they train 3 months they look for work
3 the public bus are accessible to the apartments (or at the end of the block)

that takes care of the homeless....as the time expires for the 6 months or they actually make it the apartments are turned over with new ppl

now the ones that do nothing do not try do not anything but take ....they are flagged in the system removing them from the system given them no more benefits (their ss number is tag along with names and birthdays )......a simple photo of the ppl will keep them from scamming the system ( software is smart enough to tell who is who ...u can even smile again in dmv pics the software has gotten that smart)

now for the fun part the cops needs to get off there high horse glove up and start picking up the ppl for needle drugs (weed is legal u need more go to amsterdam ) .......as the number of ppl increase in the jail for the drugs offense u build the new jail on the edge of the state

they finish the time they get a kick in the ass and told .....u used up welcome in this state .....u can not get on any more programs here and u will be searched each time u are stopped as u are flagged as homeless and drug user ......no point in staying here next state is 10 miles that way try there ............u shuffle them out of the area ........i say u gather them up in some state with floods and tornadoes ( if they take out trailer parks think about tent cities ) ....it was their choice and our choice to let nature do the dirty work


if u want a quicker way
every kitchen every place that serves food all the trash cans are laces with a spray rat poison at night .......kills rats and other stuff makes humans really really sick
remove the food supply so they will move on or die off


at some point have to cut loses or u go down with them .......u make every effort to help out the ones that really want the ones just scamming the system need to be removed

The "bag em and tag em approch". This type of thing has crossed my mind to a degree. Pick em all up, identify them, and process them. Kind of like the video @Blue Wizard posted earlier. Criminals to jail. Crazies to the institutions. And kids and people that can work to shelters or some type of affordable housing to hopefully be helped. It would be the fastest method to deal with the problem. All the criminals would flee the city as well.

 

[Gary Goodson]

I don't know you very well, but you aren't a cunt most of the time, so...
The bottom line is that you can't help people who don't want help. The kid I mentioned was offered help many times while he was homeless. He liked the "free" lifestyle and *really* liked hard drugs. Truly a sad story, and I hope that doesn't happen you your nephew. Most people have family members who have been on public assistance because they were down on their luck. (WIC, welfare, medicaid, etc). That's what it is for.
As you mentioned earlier, giving them money is only going to make the problem worse -- and create more frauds. Some guys holding signs that say "homeless vet, please help" are neither homeless nor vets. But some of them really are! How do you know?
I never said that I had the answers. What I said was that I am totally unimpressed with what homeless people do to the environment, and now I'm the bad guy.

No, you're the bad guy for coming off as totally insensitive by referring to them as bio hazards. I do understand where you're coming from on some of them being scumbags. but you can't lump them all up in the same basket. Thats the kind of thinking that racist do. Like If a Mexican robbed you, now all Mexicans are shit in your eyes.

 

[420God]

Sure they do, but THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

It is the job of our government to take care of those who cannot care for themselves.

This should be seen for what it is; an excuse for the rich and selfish to not pay their fair share of taxes.

Weird, I thought it was their job to help those in need. Guess I'm wrong.



I'm also not religious but have been helped by the local church when we didn't have much.

 

[Alienwidow]

There was this dude that had a sign that read "it's hard out here for a pimp. Help a brother out" I had to pull over and help him out. I gave him a 40, a half smoked joint, and a few bucks for food. Because you know after smoking some weed and drinking some beer you're gonna be hungry.

There is also this old lady that stands at my local corner store, I won't give her anything because I've seen her wired as fuck and I don't like hard drugs(yes, I know, it's my beliefs) but I'm not gonna help you pay for meth.

If I could've taken that pipe out of his hands or that shit out of his car, my brother wouldn't be in prison right now. Till 2020 and its already been 3 years at that. Now my nephew is with out a father for another 3-4 years and at a time when a young man needs his dad. He's a teen right now and there are some things he's going through. I do what I can for him, but I can never replace his dad


idk why I've been so open on here lately. forgive me for being a whinny lil bitch. but that last paragraph kinda got me in the feels hard core... I guess because its December and Christmas is right around the corner and I wish I could do more. But i have a good harvest coming up and I will make sure to take care of all of my people.

I hope everyone does the same and find it in their hearts to have a lil compassion for the less fortunate. Things aren't always so cut and dry, shit happens and folks are left out in the cold.

This post got me in the feels. Happy holidays gary.

 

[Hookabelly]

They are biohazards.
It's easy to be an idealist if you don't have to be around the mess they create. I personally witnessed what they did to the environment when they started camping by the railroad tracks. They turned a pristine outdoor wonderland into a stinky, trash-filled disaster -- complete with random hypodermic needles strewn about.
I have zero sympathy for these "people".

Believe me I know what you mean. Seattle is now tent city/heroin van RV's in some regions. There is danger there as crime increases and it affects the business owners negatively but dude, they are still human beings. You say you witnessed the environment they create, but can you honestly say you've put yourself in a position to help? You said earlier "try spending time with them when you're not giving them something." I think you should. Then you can't help but see they are people. When you lump them together in your mind as you do, you remove their humanity.

Sure they do, but THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

It is the job of our government to take care of those who cannot care for themselves.

This should be seen for what it is; an excuse for the rich and selfish to not pay their fair share of taxes.

Yes, (it actually is their "job" in a sense. Not a job, more of an obedience to the spiritual laws they believe)

I still think those programs can make better use of the $ given. Which is why I hammer on partnering with those programs on an individual basis. I think what's striking a chord with @Chunky Stool is his own value system. When I started out volunteering at the food bank I caught myself being judgmental about some folks who were blabbing on cell phones and taking more than their fair share of what was offered. Honestly it's where a lot of us would go. But you have to realize no matter what you're seeing you DON'T know the inside story. And even if there are some people who take advantage, those that are helped and truly need this assistance FAR outnumber the bag eggs.

I have a friend who owns a small business in down town seattle and he's being overrun by theft, vandalism, ect. by the homeless camped out infant of the business. Customers are scared to walk through that to patronize his business. I feel for him. What's his solution?

 

[Chunky Stool]

No, you're the bad guy for coming off as totally insensitive by referring to them as bio hazards. I do understand where you're coming from on some of them being scumbags. but you can't lump them all up in the same basket. Thats the kind of thinking that racist do. Like If a Mexican robbed you, now all Mexicans are shit in your eyes.

I still feel that some of them are biohazards. If you visited an abandoned homeless encampment (zero clean up) , you might get a different perspective.
Also, have you noticed that @Big_Lou did not accept my challenge to go hang out with homeless people when he isn't giving them anything of free? He knows that the majority will not be happy to see him...

 

[Alienwidow]

You're welcome. I'm more than happy to help. I'm the closest thing we have to a dislike button here on the site.

Meh, youre nothing but a sock. Carry on, and thanks for the likes bob.

 

[ttystikk]

Is it not our responsibility to help out those in fucked up situations? What if someone got in a bad accident right as you were passing by? Do we just keep on driving? Or do we stop to help?

My friend saw a car drive off the road into a creek, the car was submerged in water. He stopped and there wasn't time to call for help. So he got in the water and saved them. He is good friends with their family to this day. I've even hung out with them and had some beers. They're good people.

Good on ya! I'd do the same thing.

Of course we all can and should help out.

My gripe is different in that our society must not be allowed to ignore them in the hope we pick up the slack.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Believe me I know what you mean. Seattle is now tent city/heroin van RV's in some regions. There is danger there as crime increases and it affects the business owners negatively but dude, they are still human beings. You say you witnessed the environment they create, but can you honestly say you've put yourself in a position to help? You said earlier "try spending time with them when you're not giving them something." I think you should. Then you can't help but see they are people. When you lump them together in your mind as you do, you remove their humanity.



Yes, (it actually is their "job" in a sense. Not a job, more of an obedience to the spiritual laws they believe)

I still think those programs can make better use of the $ given. Which is why I hammer on partnering with those programs on an individual basis. I think what's striking a chord with @Chunky Stool is his own value system. When I started out volunteering at the food bank I caught myself being judgmental about some folks who were blabbing on cell phones and taking more than their fair share of what was offered. Honestly it's where a lot of us would go. But you have to realize no matter what you're seeing you DON'T know the inside story. And even if there are some people who take advantage, those that are helped and truly need this assistance FAR outnumber the bag eggs.

I have a friend who owns a small business in down town seattle and he's being overrun by theft, vandalism, ect. by the homeless camped out infant of the business. Customers are scared to walk through that to patronize his business. I feel for him. What's his solution?

Did you hear about what happened when reporters were covering the Seattle "tent city" shutdown? I couple of biohazards started shooting up and smoking meth right in front of the police, while shouting obscenities at the cameras! Those are the "people" I'm talking about.

 

[Gary Goodson]

This post got me in the feels. Happy holidays gary.

I hope and your family have a good holiday as well. Even if me saying this doesnt sit well with everyone. It doesnt matter, I really don't wish any harm or bad luck on anyone right now.

This thread has made me feel bad for us a race. Some of us are no better than the people we are shitting on. Is this what we've become as people, as human beings? In this Facebook, instagram, twitter, me me me type society? Look at me, look at what I've got. Sucks to be you if you don't have what I have. I'm the shit! Everyone is a personal god and everyone else sucks ass.

 

[Alienwidow]

Believe me I know what you mean. Seattle is now tent city/heroin van RV's in some regions. There is danger there as crime increases and it affects the business owners negatively but dude, they are still human beings. You say you witnessed the environment they create, but can you honestly say you've put yourself in a position to help? You said earlier "try spending time with them when you're not giving them something." I think you should. Then you can't help but see they are people. When you lump them together in your mind as you do, you remove their humanity.



Yes, (it actually is their "job" in a sense. Not a job, more of an obedience to the spiritual laws they believe)

I still think those programs can make better use of the $ given. Which is why I hammer on partnering with those programs on an individual basis. I think what's striking a chord with @Chunky Stool is his own value system. When I started out volunteering at the food bank I caught myself being judgmental about some folks who were blabbing on cell phones and taking more than their fair share of what was offered. Honestly it's where a lot of us would go. But you have to realize no matter what you're seeing you DON'T know the inside story. And even if there are some people who take advantage, those that are helped and truly need this assistance FAR outnumber the bag eggs.

I have a friend who owns a small business in down town seattle and he's being overrun by theft, vandalism, ect. by the homeless camped out infant of the business. Customers are scared to walk through that to patronize his business. I feel for him. What's his solution?

you truely have a warm heart hooka. I used to deal with a couple who used to go to the food bank quite regularly. When they knew i wasnt doing well they would bring me food. They would also spread food they got from the food bank around their trailer park to people who needed it and didnt have the means to get to the food bank.

 

[ttystikk]

Weird, I thought it was their job to help those in need. Guess I'm wrong.

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I'm also not religious but have been helped by the local church when we didn't have much.

I'm using the word job as a synonym for obligation.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Weird, I thought it was their job to help those in need. Guess I'm wrong.

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I'm also not religious but have been helped by the local church when we didn't have much.

I think it's (the churches, if that's what you meant) their moral obligation to help, but not their job, so to speak.

The government has even more of a moral obligation as well as a legal obligation.

Ever see that film of 9/11 1st responders visiting Cuba a few yrs. back and meeting Cuban fire responders? The 9/11 guys, who now have permanent respiratory diseases need special inhaler drugs. In Cuba, $25.00. Here, hundreds of dollars for the same drug.

Who pays for the extra money? You and I.

Who profits from that extra money? Some greedy drug company CEO?

The whole system is skewed towards the wrong direction. There's wealth here, and the wealthy get wealthier, the poor get poorer, and the shrinking middle class carries the bulk of the load.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Hookabelly]

I befriended one woman who was at or below poverty level. Started out as volunteering to take her to the dental college so she could have her teeth fixed. She was missing most and couldn't eat. She had many physical problems that weren't immediately visible but prevented her from working. I just kept showing up to drive her, or help her shop for groceries. Food stamps don't go far and the most affordable food is the cheap, zero nutrition packaged stuff. So I'd fill in sometimes here and there w/ veggies, etc. She was also diabetic so the starch laden foods were also bad for her.

By all appearances she looked able bodied. Only she wasn't Then she was struck w/ breast cancer. Can you imaging trying to get to your doctor appointments using a bus? Riding home after chemo, sick as a dog? She did. But no matter how little time or money I'd spend, she was beyond grateful. It was almost embarrassing b/c I'd feel like I never did enough.

She passed away two years ago from complications from her diabetes. (type 1 for all you jaded folks BTW). I STILL feel like I didn't do enough. This woman had a very hard life. I may have judge her standing in line at the food bank had I not actually gone with her to the food bank. You just never know about people.

That guy shitting himself in the homeless camp? I'm sure that wan't his life's dream once upon a time.

 

[Hookabelly]

Did you hear about what happened when reporters were covering the Seattle "tent city" shutdown? I couple of biohazards started shooting up and smoking meth right in front of the police, while shouting obscenities at the cameras! Those are the "people" I'm talking about.

Of course I watched. (see my post about my business owner friend) Believe me, our once beautiful city is a cesspool.. There will never be enough $$ from taxpayers to totally eliminate it. Which is why I'm so passionate about people helping on their own. Violence is a crime. In that same tent city (called the jungle in Seattle) there were 3 murders in one evening. I'm not talking about violent offenders. Jail them I guess. What I AM talking about is using the money in better ways that are more effective.

 

[Alienwidow]

With all the people out there that are really concerned out there and willing to protest lately at the drop of a hat, i bet a save a street campaign would go over really well especially over the holiday season. I just thought of this one. Get volunteers to donate a few hours of their time and a few dollars worth of gas a week and give them streets to look after. They could help clean up the garbage and not kick people out of their "homes". The job would be pretty gross though.

 

[Hookabelly]

With all the people out there that are really concerned out there and willing to protest lately at the drop of a hat, i bet a save a street campaign would go over really well especially over the holiday season. I just thought of this one. Get volunteers to donate a few hours of their time and a few dollars worth of gas a week and give them streets to look after. They could help clean up the garbage and not kick people out of their "homes". The job would be pretty gross though.

Hmmm, seems like your mind opened up a bit after your OP. I get the frustration level. But better to be part of a solution than part of the problem right?

 

[420God]

The job would be pretty gross though.

 

[Alexroller]

When i rub my autoflower buds my fingers stick and they smell very very bad...but not like weed...more like gasoline... the buds look pretty healthy and fosty but its just the smell....will they smell different when harvest time approach or when its dry??? cause they look delicious but they smell like too much....

 

[Alienwidow]

When i rub my autoflower buds my fingers stick and they smell very very bad...but not like weed...more like gasoline... the buds look pretty healthy and fosty but its just the smell....will they smell different when harvest time approach or when its dry??? cause they look delicious but they smell like too much....

That smell is a good thing. They will keep some of that smell but it will change a little when its dry. Dont worry, fuel, diesel, smell is a good thing.