DIY with Quantum Boards
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will be putting an order in soon also wanted to ask should i stick with both 3k or get 1 3k and 1 4k board thanks agian
kaoss_11
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if you could show any proof of your findings like a scholarly journal, report or testing that show that my lamps light is shooting in the air I would love to have a read. On my brand of DE you have open or enclosed reflectors neither will shoot light vertically, I actually think it would all but impossible. once again the reflectors are open design and designed to overlap since they are commercial lamps.
I believe you have it backwards, the led light is much more scattered and less concentrated. Either way this is not a debate of wether led does this or hps does that. I am here for information from those that have grown using the 550 or similar in a grow room or warehouse. If they have grown using a de hps lamp previously that would help even more. I have been private messaging with members and they have been showing me their larger plants. If you have any pics you would like to share of you using several hps lamps or several 550 lamps I would love to see them if you feel like sharing.
On their website they say u can run max 5 boards per driver. Im a noobs tho so what do I know ^^
thanks. In that case It might have to be 2x drivers running 3 boards each. Still no idea which driver to choose. Should be dimmable thought.
esh dov ets
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looks like girlscout cookiesI don't think I've ever seen buds that looked like these do. Either way, they sure are super frosty! 5x5 tent with 8x QB304, running 2 per HLG-320H-c1400A, turned all the way down.
Doctor Derp
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I think you and some others may be right. These seeds came from an un-verifiable source, and could very well have been mis-labeled. I had Gorilla Glue, GSC, Tangerine Dream, and White Widow. I know which plants are TD, because they smell like a freaking orange grove. The other plants, not so much. I lost all 4 WW as males, and one each of what was labeled as GSC, and also the Gorilla Glue.
I think the GG and GSC were label swapped. This stuff smells like Girl Scout Cookies smells, even. That minty scent is absolutely there. I sure hope these clones take, or I can re-veg this sucker! These are the most amazing flowers I've ever seen with my own eyes.
Sickomindo
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Here's my current set up. First QB Run or Cob.
Got currently 5 fem Green Crack 1 Blue Dream Reg and 6 small fem gorilla glue off to the left. I fucked up basically I got everything backwards and I settled on the wrong size buckets for the wrong strain oh well. Obviously that's way too many plants for a 4 x 4 tent Hempy Coco bottom fed 3 gallon bucket's hydroton on the bottom res and airstones. Six Cobs 300 W +260 W quantum board.
I tried and turned on the board and a couple times for a second looks like there could be a little bit of heat issues if I don't have environmental's done perfectly
Got currently 5 fem Green Crack 1 Blue Dream Reg and 6 small fem gorilla glue off to the left. I fucked up basically I got everything backwards and I settled on the wrong size buckets for the wrong strain oh well. Obviously that's way too many plants for a 4 x 4 tent Hempy Coco bottom fed 3 gallon bucket's hydroton on the bottom res and airstones. Six Cobs 300 W +260 W quantum board.
I tried and turned on the board and a couple times for a second looks like there could be a little bit of heat issues if I don't have environmental's done perfectly
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ttystikk
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Impressive, green one!
Victor6634
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I also have 6 qbs coming along with 2 triple heatsinks going with 2 HLG-320H-c1400A
For mine
Nice thanks. Are you going passive?
Victor6634
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Yes going passive with fans in the room circulating air they should stay cool
215Kush
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So you your an HiD Grower then? That's the light style you prefer and use correct? I didn't have the newer DE Hid's but I assure you horticultural lighting group makes a light that compares to a double ended 1K. In years to come Leds will out perform any HID lights out there IMO. There doing it now, The technology they're coming out with now, a lot of the old school HID Growers are starting to switch to QB's Now and have been for a while now! Don't get me wrong there's nothing with HID lights in anyway. But when it comes to the efficiency and light penetration and electrical bill there's no comparison. I think they get blown out of the water by QB's but just IMO! After I add 2 Solacare 80watts UVA and UVB that are made in the USA and made by Orsam. I will get better Resin and Tricome production without a doubt it may take me a little bit to get them dialed in because they have to be used in certain way so it's not detrimental to your plants.
I just didn't understand why you said you were on the fence with 550's because you were experimenting with 260s that made no sense to me since I wasn't talking about my light? I was just talking about adding UVB lighting to my 550? Which someone on here referred me to Solacare flower power lights. After I do get them dialed in correctly there will be a big difference in Tric production. But we will see what happens.
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kaoss_11
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some confusion but to clarify we are testing a 260 watt kit 4k spectrum in our dedicated veg room. there have been good results but not without some concern. the internodes are extremely tight and the plants are very small. not an issue for some but its a concern for me since I put my plants in at about 2 feet. I spoke with my distro and they are sending me out a 2700k kit.
Reason is we veg with SE HPS lamps and have so for years. plant growth and size is much better and faster for us. In my new location I plan on running led lamps however my current results have been very small plants so if the 2700k mimics closer to what our SE hps lamps do in veg then we are all set.
I have had very long conversations with both steve at horticulture lighting group and kurt at growers lights and both have said that the 550 is NOT a true DE replacement, I would need 5 550s to replace 4 de lamps or 3 260 to replace 1 de lamp. So I cant go by your assurance as its much different than what the source has told me. However with that said the yields still should be similar from what I been told.
I need one lamp thats going to do what its suppose to over a 4x4 space, several rooms with 8-12 lamps is the plan. I agree LED is the future, I agree led is efficient, I agree they use less electricity, I agree they create less heat. I would disagree on light penetration being my phantom de reflector is built specific for overlap which in my opinion hits the plants from several different angles hence the reason I dont bunch plants.
For me this is not about what LED does or doesn't do on a spec sheet or lab or tent as I am convinced they work well. The question is will they work well for me and the team. My concern is real world results in a warehouse or decent sized grow room. I would be a fool and horrible business man if I were to invest 8 grand+ in lamps on results based off a tent. I dont need convincing, I am patiently waiting on results and or feedback from larger garden growers. That vertical grow was intriguing but would not work for us.
Reason is we veg with SE HPS lamps and have so for years. plant growth and size is much better and faster for us. In my new location I plan on running led lamps however my current results have been very small plants so if the 2700k mimics closer to what our SE hps lamps do in veg then we are all set.
I have had very long conversations with both steve at horticulture lighting group and kurt at growers lights and both have said that the 550 is NOT a true DE replacement, I would need 5 550s to replace 4 de lamps or 3 260 to replace 1 de lamp. So I cant go by your assurance as its much different than what the source has told me. However with that said the yields still should be similar from what I been told.
I need one lamp thats going to do what its suppose to over a 4x4 space, several rooms with 8-12 lamps is the plan. I agree LED is the future, I agree led is efficient, I agree they use less electricity, I agree they create less heat. I would disagree on light penetration being my phantom de reflector is built specific for overlap which in my opinion hits the plants from several different angles hence the reason I dont bunch plants.
For me this is not about what LED does or doesn't do on a spec sheet or lab or tent as I am convinced they work well. The question is will they work well for me and the team. My concern is real world results in a warehouse or decent sized grow room. I would be a fool and horrible business man if I were to invest 8 grand+ in lamps on results based off a tent. I dont need convincing, I am patiently waiting on results and or feedback from larger garden growers. That vertical grow was intriguing but would not work for us.
215Kush
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I understand what your saying when say it like that. There must of been Soon confusion. Did you see the Grow the guy I think it's Eric from Ledgrowlightdepot has videos of his 1st Grow I thought I heard him say but I'm not 100% positive. He running a 550 in a 4x4 his plants are doing Good. I'm trying to comparie any 550 to a double ended HiD 1K. But your going to use the 27K in a veg tent? Or going to flower with it since you have a 4K already. 1 260 isn't enough for a 4x4 IMO. 2 would work Nice 3 would be Perfect in a 4x4. I'm adding 2 Solacare 80 watt UVB lights because it doesn't matter if someone says they don't like the 550 but I get Good results! I'll get a pound every harvest just about sometimes I get a little less depending on the strain usually growing 2 plants. I have a Somango I just popped in a solo then it's going into a 15g No-Till ScrOG in a 4x4, I'll keep it posted on here I'll hit a pound with one plant. I don't know what kind of results you're looking for from a 260?
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kaoss_11
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I do this for a living so I will use rooms and not tents. in my test table 4x4 I am replacing the 4k with a 2700k, its a dedicated veg room. plan on buying 550s if the 2700k gives me the results I think we need.
I will say this the 1 single 260w kit works well over a 4x4 just fine in my opinion. will 2 work better? im sure and 3 would be better than that. in some instances less is more and I think thats the case with lamps.
hlg is working on something in the near future thats a true de replacement
I will say this the 1 single 260w kit works well over a 4x4 just fine in my opinion. will 2 work better? im sure and 3 would be better than that. in some instances less is more and I think thats the case with lamps.
hlg is working on something in the near future thats a true de replacement
frigginwizard
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But if you went to a full QB room, you would obviously adapt to the best method for the light right? The way you do it now might not be the best way to use a new light.
420Barista
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for veg in a 4x4 1 260w will work, for flower 1 260w kitt would not be enough to make big tight nugs 2 or even 3 I think would.
coreywebster
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I run two for flower, I wouldn't dare run 3. I have to be careful with 2 due to intensity.
The dudes issue really is he needs to try the 2700k to emulate the growth he is used to getting in veg so he can properly evaluate.