Do you believe in God?

[BrewerT]

The Way I see it
He is the king, the creator, He gives, He takes. Yes he is not obligated to answer our prayers, He already gave us plenty of gifts that we should recognize in our body, and in our surroundings, and the greatest gift of all the Mind.
He hears all and answers whatever he wishes to answer even will answer a call from a non believer if He wishes to. God Had made a promise to answer the call of those who truly seek him and worship him alone.


True that God does not NEED our prayers and praise, Nor gold or silver. He likes to be acknowledged and appreciated especially by the believers, praising him and praying cost you nothing.

After all God is not asking for much. We humans sometimes go through great deal to satisfy a boss at work, or anyone who is in possession of something we need.

again that was my point of view and the way I see it, at least when I go to bed I go feeling at peace, I don't have nightmares and sleep peacefully ( after smoking several joints ). I do not feel depressed our have anxiety, other than weed I don't need to take any sort of medication.

Peace

I appreciate your response!

With all do respect, you are back-peddling in your Gods defense. More importantly, what kind of God gives prayer along one's fate, just to answer it at his discretion? That's a purely evil game to play. If a human was to behave like such, society would punish for mental abuse. These are truly characteristics of Evilness not Godliness. Its equivalent to putting a piece of meat on the end of a stick and making a human chase it, perhaps give him some along the way for encouragement, but continue ...none the less, until death. Life is a gift, that happens. In humans cases...two humans made it happen...sometimes even a Doctor of sorts gets to put a twist on things Praise them, not imaginative things! I am not in any way, shape or form, encouraging you to believe a certain way or thing, but please....really consider just what you are beholding as your supreme leader. I am sure you are a decent human being, and don't stand for such wickedness.


Furthermore, what kind of God creates pointless objects like Gold and Silver and praise and prayer, yet...magically....gives a "purpose of sorts" to a mortal human???? That's like attempting to feed your dog its own shit while praising him a good boy Inefficiency is not Godly. I'm sorry, it's just not! The bible claims a story of a very efficient creator. Yet, everything about him, and his creations, are ...the direct opposite. That leads to nothingness.

I will be on level 420 of my own little personal heaven for further discretion!

 

[BrewerT]

Religion and its influence is the largest known killer of humans, in human history. Imagination and thought are very powerful things. The wrong kind shows the costs. More God = More Death. More and more people are willing to live, and die for God. And as this madness builds, this rock could see a spinning future with not one single living human on it. God is not good. God kills. Ive seen it and was almost a victim of it. Who do we thank and praise then? We live on the fence of world destruction, this very moment.

If humans have any hope, the obvious answer, is not in God. Its in all humans! This world is truly hopeless continuing a faith based mindset. Truth, Happiness, Compassion. THC

 

[TacoMac]

People confuse faith and religion. The two are not remotely related.

Faith comes from the individual. It's an internal feeling all your own that nobody else can share.

Religion is the teaching of a doctrine. Nothing more.

Einstein proved that we never die. Our bodies produce energy. Energy never dies, it simply changes form.

Is there an existence beyond this one? Yes.

Do I know what that is? No...and I've been dead twice, so there's that. But there is something beyond this place in some form. If you want to call that God, there's no problem with that. If you don't, there's no problem with that either.

I think in the end it matters not. We all find out eventually. The God I believe in doesn't have a problem with that.

 

[BrewerT]

Religion is defined as; the belief in and worship of a superhuman. Your definition is not commonly accepted. Its made up. By you.

Faith is defined as ;
2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Sounds really related to me. But I guess that depends on your definition of related/relation. Christians hold a common belief that they will go to heaven and that its divine intervention that gets them there.

Modern medicine does not subscribe to " Einstein proved that we never die"...nor does the coroners office.

 

[TacoMac]

Religion is defined as; the belief in and worship of a superhuman. Your definition is not commonly accepted. Its made up. By you.

Faith is defined as ;
2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Sounds really related to me. But I guess that depends on your definition of related/relation. Christians hold a common belief that they will go to heaven and that its divine intervention that gets them there.

Modern medicine does not subscribe to " Einstein proved that we never die"...nor does the coroners office.

You're a moron.

Do you have faith in your best friend? Yes? Is he a god?
Do you have faith the sun will come up tomorrow?
Do you have faith that if you eat ice cream too fast you'll get a headache?

Faith, in and of itself, is relative. Religion is not.

You can have faith in pretty much anything: that the Sox will win the pennant, that you'll win the lottery, that if you put a quarter into a pinball machine you'll get a game.

Here are the REAL definitions:

faith
fāTH/
noun
noun: faith

1. 1.
   complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion

1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Next time, don't be a complete fucking moron. You're not the only one here with internet access you idiot.

 

[BrewerT]

You're a moron.

Do you have faith in your best friend? Yes? Is he a god?
Do you have faith the sun will come up tomorrow?
Do you have faith that if you eat ice cream too fast you'll get a headache?

Faith, in and of itself, is relative. Religion is not.

You can have faith in pretty much anything: that the Sox will win the pennant, that you'll win the lottery, that if you put a quarter into a pinball machine you'll get a game.

Here are the REAL definitions:

faith
fāTH/
noun
noun: faith

1. 1.
   complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion

1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Next time, don't be a complete fucking moron. You're not the only one here with internet access you idiot.

Im speechless. And an idiot by your very high standards. Your name calling says everything. I don't entertain those with the wits to name call. I can be mean too....it takes almost no effort.

Real definitions??? You forgot the second definition....which i posted. Dont know whats so unreal there? Other than your lack of education, decency, and respect!

I will let your post speak for itself.

 

[MarWan]

why blame religion when its the Man's fault who interpret it as he wishes and manipulate it . Some people have been doing that for thousands of years and still going on.
When George W. Bush announced war on Iraq, He said God has spoken to him and commanded him (if I remember correctly), His father before him said it was a crusade. a new world order.

 

[BrewerT]

why blame religion when its the Man's fault who interpret it as he wishes and manipulate it . Some people have been doing that for thousands of years and still going on.
When George W. Bush announced war on Iraq, He said God has spoken to him and commanded him (if I remember correctly), His father before him said it was a crusade. a new world order.

I blame Man no for not stopping this destructive plague of hocus pocus mystical bullshit. Why would a God create a human to interpret? That does not fit the characteristics of Godliness.

 

[MarWan]

I blame Man no for not stopping this destructive plague of hocus pocus mystical bullshit. Why would a God create a human to interpret? That does not fit the characteristics of Godliness.

there are people who are driven by greed ,lust, envy, negative things in general, who would use religion to pursue their interests by any means necessary, some times they get the upper hand for a period of time. Humans are no Angels or perfect.

Unlike many creatures, we are given the freedom of choice, If we chose to stop destruction we should act upon it then ask help from the all mighty. God created the universe and set the laws that cannot be changed (only changed on a very rare occasions for those who are special). If you want something done, you'll have to act upon it, you will have to use the tools and means necessary to get the job done, do not rely on prayer alone, after all God helps those who help themselves.

Peace be with you.

 

[Venus55]

Theoretically, if God was to exist, then yes he would be obligated to answer our prayers. What logic is there in a communication avenue if the other end isn't obligated? If he refused, ignored, or otherwise didn't he would not be omnipotent, he would be impotent.

Praise and prayer are nothing but entertainment for your troubled mind. Praise is also something a hypothetical God would not have a need for. Praise is again something humans created, not a God. Prayer is also the same. Prayer and praise don't fit in the reasoning and understanding of a God. Prayer and praise point to a very VERY INEFFICIENT God. Gods are NOT considered inefficient. Humans are, God not

Why would any hypothetical God create such inefficient and oddly mysterious ways of communication and behavior. Why make a human in your likeness that has to praise and worship you. Does God praise, pray and worship himself? Seems silly...cause...well...it is

What kind of God creates in his image ...just to "command" you to remember him and not other Gods??? Does this said God seems to forget himself from time to time....wish he would

Well said

 

[Venus55]

You're a moron.

Do you have faith in your best friend? Yes? Is he a god?
Do you have faith the sun will come up tomorrow?
Do you have faith that if you eat ice cream too fast you'll get a headache?

Faith, in and of itself, is relative. Religion is not.

You can have faith in pretty much anything: that the Sox will win the pennant, that you'll win the lottery, that if you put a quarter into a pinball machine you'll get a game.

Here are the REAL definitions:

faith
fāTH/
noun
noun: faith

1. 1.
   complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion

1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Next time, don't be a complete fucking moron. You're not the only one here with internet access you idiot.

Hey seriously. I agree with exactly what u've said, but is there really any reason to start insulting? Geez that pisses me off. Why can't people have civil conversations anymore without calling each other names?

I'm not saying you're wrong. But when u behave this way it makes it look like u r.....

 

[MarWan]

let us all smoke a joint, listen to some music and appreciate "God's" beautiful creation

She does look like princess Jasmine.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Hey seriously. I agree with exactly what u've said, but is there really any reason to start insulting? Geez that pisses me off. Why can't people have civil conversations anymore without calling each other names?
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I'm not saying you're wrong. But when u behave this way it makes it look like u r.....

Don't be a moron.

 

[Venus55]

Don't be a moron.

Lol. Prick

 

[Heisenberg]

Einstein proved that we never die. Our bodies produce energy. Energy never dies, it simply changes form.

What Einstein demonstrated is that energy is equivalent to mass times speed of light squared. What you have stated is the first law of thermodynamics which is accredited to Antoine Lavoisier and Julius Robert Mayer. None of those people claimed to have proved that we never die.

To quote Ben Radford: "After a person dies, the energy in his or her body goes where all organisms' energy goes after death: into the environment. When a human dies, the energy stored in his or her body is released in the form of heat, and transferred into the animals that eat us (i.e., wild animals if we are left unburied, or worms and bacteria if we are interred), and the plants that absorb us. If we are cremated, the energy in our bodies is released in the form of heat and light."

Where our energy goes when we die is not a mystery. While you are free to believe as you wish, pretending that those beliefs are somehow backed up by science is factually wrong and intellectually dishonest. I'm afraid you'll have to fall back on faith.

Do you have faith in your best friend? Yes? Is he a god?
Do you have faith the sun will come up tomorrow?
Do you have faith that if you eat ice cream too fast you'll get a headache?

This is a very old trick popular with religious apologists, but it's also a well known logical fallacy called equivocation. It relies on the fact that words have multiple meanings. If I say "that girl is hot" or "the sun is hot" I am obviously using two very different definitions of the word "hot,", neither of which has anything to do with the other. When people say "I have faith in God" or "I have faith in my friends" they are using the same word, but meaning two wholly different concepts. Faith in our friends comes from evidence. This can be demonstrated by the fact that a friend who treats you badly or repeatedly lets you down is a friend which you'll have no faith in. Faith in God comes from wishful thinking, and it persists despite evidence, not because of it.

It's such a well known fallacy that it isn't hard to find dozens of websites explaining it. (for example: https://adamkemp.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/30/797564-faith-faith-and-equivocation) The next time you decide to call someone else a moron, you should probably make sure you're not looking in a mirror first.

The fact that you have to rely on name calling, made-up science, and logical mistakes to defend your faith is telling not only of its intellectual frailty but also your confidence in it. If faith is a personal thing, then keep it to yourself, because when you try to prove it has some factual basis or that everyone else shares your faith, you're gonna fail.

 

[BrewerT]

What Einstein demonstrated is that energy is equivalent to mass times speed of light squared. What you have stated is the first law of thermodynamics which is accredited to Antoine Lavoisier and Julius Robert Mayer. None of those people claimed to have proved that we never die.

To quote Ben Radford: "After a person dies, the energy in his or her body goes where all organisms' energy goes after death: into the environment. When a human dies, the energy stored in his or her body is released in the form of heat, and transferred into the animals that eat us (i.e., wild animals if we are left unburied, or worms and bacteria if we are interred), and the plants that absorb us. If we are cremated, the energy in our bodies is released in the form of heat and light."

Where our energy goes when we die is not a mystery. While you are free to believe as you wish, pretending that those beliefs are somehow backed up by science is factually wrong and intellectually dishonest. I'm afraid you'll have to fall back on faith.



This is a very old trick popular with religious apologists, but it's also a well known logical fallacy called equivocation. It relies on the fact that words have multiple meanings. If I say "that girl is hot" or "the sun is hot" I am obviously using two very different definitions of the word "hot,", neither of which has anything to do with the other. When people say "I have faith in God" or "I have faith in my friends" they are using the same word, but meaning two wholly different concepts. Faith in our friends comes from evidence. This can be demonstrated by the fact that a friend who treats you badly or repeatedly lets you down is a friend which you'll have no faith in. Faith in God comes from wishful thinking, and it persists despite evidence, not because of it.

It's such a well known fallacy that it isn't hard to find dozens of websites explaining it. (for example: https://adamkemp.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/30/797564-faith-faith-and-equivocation) The next time you decide to call someone else a moron, you should probably make sure you're not looking in a mirror first.

The fact that you have to rely on name calling, made-up science, and logical mistakes to defend your faith is telling not only of its intellectual frailty but also your confidence in it. If faith is a personal thing, then keep it to yourself, because when you try to prove it has some factual basis or that everyone else shares your faith, you're gonna fail.

Thank you for stating this! Faith and Religion are related. Its not an evil thing, it's simply the truth, and for some reason, most of those with faith in God( I know a slight blanket statement) seem to be headstrong that these two words have polar or no relation at all. Christianity is called a faith-based religion for a reason. That's what it is.

Wishful thinking. Pipe dreaming. Brainstorming. Imagination.

Name calling....in a religious online thread? By a believer....nah, don't believe it.

 

[Enigma]

Don't forget to tip!

 

[Tim Fox]

Tim, that's got nothing to do with believing in God or not. That's about understanding science.
Most theists understand evolution happened - creationism is a very small, fringe part of theism.
Even within just Christianity, most Christians accept evolution - about 55% of all Christians. (And 99.998% of all biologists, many of which are believers)

if you want science to prove the bible,, just watch the movie on amazon prime or netflix called " IS Genesis History",, and all the scientist prove thru science that the bible is real,, but you probably wont watch it

 

[Tim Fox]

Is genesis History?,,, you bet it is,,, and science proves it https://isgenesishistory.com/a-brief-overview/

 

[GreenLogician]

if you want science to prove the bible,, just watch the movie on amazon prime or netflix called " IS Genesis History",, and all the scientist prove thru science that the bible is real,, but you probably wont watch it

Thanks but I'm not paying to be preached at by uninformed and overconfident scientific illiterates. I've already seen a thousand films like it, Ray Comfort, Kent Hovind and the like. You can find criticisms out there, but hey, you probably wont watch them.