Marijuana Causes Bad Stomach Problems, Etc.

[MichiganMedGrower]

Well my brother was hospitalized for three days.
They ran the gambit of tests on him, and no answer.
He has had two procedures. They expanded his esophagus, and biopsied his throat, and scoped his stomach. No ulcers.Soi you find out from your family then. I would love to find another answer.
But the symptoms seem pretty common across the board.

Don’t you see. The symptoms and cases are too isolated to make a claim of cause. And honestly I suffer from a congenital colon disorder that has been mis diagnosed for 40 years by over 100 doctors now and I have to tell you every one of the people claiming this have sounded quite anxiety filled. Like me the answer is still unknown and panic has taken over. I have been there many times in pain.

I am not denying anyone is suffering. And I am not discounting anything. Just without more proof I am not blindly blaming marijuana. Even if stopping it helped.

I think there is a related or underlying cause.

Like cigar smoking tons of nicotine and smoking high thc weed and blaming only the weed even if the action together is the actual cause.

Or even a hormonal or mental aspect involved.

If it is real information will continue to surface and eventually we will know.

 

[kona gold]

Don’t you see. The symptoms and cases are too isolated to make a claim of cause. And honestly I suffer from a congenital colon disorder that has been mis diagnosed for 40 years by over 100 doctors now and I have to tell you every one of the people claiming this have sounded quite anxiety filled. Like me the answer is still unknown and panic has taken over. I have been there many times in pain.

I am not denying anyone is suffering. And I am not discounting anything. Just without more proof I am not blindly blaming marijuana. Even if stopping it helped.

I think there is a related or underlying cause.

Like cigar smoking tons of nicotine and smoking high thc weed and blaming only the weed even if the action together is the actual cause.

Or even a hormonal or mental aspect involved.

If it is real information will continue to surface and eventually we will know.

Bro, that's up to you.
I really don't care if you believe or not.
This info is for people suffering.
You just want to be super cautious and stubborn, that's your call.
Your case make really no sense. It's obvious you are not a physician. So your methods are obviously not professional, or you would see the potential in this!?!
I have studied cannabis and it's affects since 1990. Read many books, did tons of research in college. Have done extensive readings since. I know how it works in the body, so for you to sit here and discounta hypothesis that is backed up by many cases, then I can'ttake anything you say as intelligence or scientific.

 

[ANC]

You do know most of those books and studies were written by people who never dared use cannabis?

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Bro, that's up to you.
I really don't care if you believe or not.
This info is for people suffering.
You just want to be super cautious and stubborn, that's your call.
Your case make really no sense. It's obvious you are not a physician. So your methods are obviously not professional, or you would see the potential in this!?!
I have studied cannabis and it's affects since 1990. Read many books, did tons of research in college. Have done extensive readings since. I know how it works in the body, so for you to sit here and discounta hypothesis that is backed up by many cases, then I can'ttake anything you say as intelligence or scientific.

You talk in circles. And it seems you very much care what I think. You’re still trying to get me to believe.

And how do you know my education? What do you know of my deformed insides? And what methods are you referring to that I am not professional using?

Like I said. Every patient that claims this sounds like they are in a panic attack. And the symptoms are all panic attack symptoms.

Sorry you are all suffering but it is most likely not from pot. It has been shown to push a few mentally ill people from bipolar into schizophrenia.

 

[kona gold]

You talk in circles. And it seems you very much care what I think. You’re still trying to get me to believe.

And how do you know my education? What do you know of my deformed insides? And what methods are you referring to that I am not professional using?

Like I said. Every patient that claims this sounds like they are in a panic attack. And the symptoms are all panic attack symptoms.

Sorry you are all suffering but it is most likely not from pot. It has been shown to push a few mentally ill people from bipolar into schizophrenia.

I don't suffer from anxiety.
But just the fact that you would cite some bogus studies on schizophrenia and bipolar discredits you completely.
You say this but don't believe that.
I am over talking to your uneducated fool ass.
Best of luck

 

[kona gold]

You do know most of those books and studies were written by people who never dared use cannabis?

That's not true. So didn't and some did. That how you gather information. From all parties. Not just one side.
That not how the "scientific method" is conducted.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I don't suffer from anxiety.
But just the fact that you would cite some bogus studies on schizophrenia and bipolar discredits you completely.
You say this but don't believe that.
I am over talking to your uneducated fool ass.
Best of luck

Well I just finished reading the only study on this. Have you?

 

[chiqifella]

marijuana is not for everyone

 

[kona gold]

Well I just finished reading the only study on this. Have you?

There has been more than one study I have read.
Most come out of Great Britain.
But are usually low number studies, and not replicated.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

There has been more than one study I have read.
Most come out of Great Britain.
But are usually low number studies, and not replicated.

Lol. Only 8 cases have been shown to not have other causes out of 1000’s of complaints. And half of them have the other vomiting disorder.

And the 4 left they can’t determine the cause of action.

Either quote actual cases and show actual information or please stop.

I just read all the rest of the limited info on the internet in case something tangible has surfaced.

It has not. All the recent articles just quote the 1 verified 2004 study at the Mayo Clinic.

And every supposed regular smoker with the condition sounds like an uninformed noob and somehow has a brother or friend with the same condition. Even though if it is in fact real it would be extremely rare.

I would highly suggest mental health treatment. That’s what even the doctors that believe this are starting with.

Good luck. I hope you feel better. I can only help you if cannabanoids are beneficial. Whatever you want to think. I have devoted my life to education about our plant. Mrs. MMG has already had her internal cysts eliminated by medical marijuana. She suffered all her life until we grew her medicine.

 

[kona gold]

Lol. Only 8 cases have been shown to not have other causes out of 1000’s of complaints. And half of them have the other vomiting disorder.

And the 4 left they can’t determine the cause of action.

Either quote actual cases and show actual information or please stop.

I just read all the rest of the limited info on the internet in case something tangible has surfaced.

It has not. All the recent articles just quote the 1 verified 2004 study at the Mayo Clinic.

And every supposed regular smoker with the condition sounds like an uninformed noob and somehow has a brother or friend with the same condition. Even though if it is in fact real it would be extremely rare.

I would highly suggest mental health treatment. That’s what even the doctors that believe this are starting with.

Good luck. I hope you feel better. I can only help you if cannabanoids are beneficial. Whatever you want to think. I have devoted my life to education about our plant. Mrs. MMG has already had her internal cysts eliminated by medical marijuana. She suffered all her life until we grew her medicine.

Not only are you uninformed, you are highly unintelligent.
And I doubt highly that your family is any smarter.
I have been studying this plant at a colligate level since early 90's, what have you done and what research have you done?
You are the only one here that sounds like a noob. You are probably one of those late comer med state guys that reads the internet, but has zero knowledge to understand what you read.
So sorry if your pride got offended, but you are a total idiotic moron!
Now shut your hole and try not to let your pride type another response!

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Not only are you uninformed, you are highly unintelligent.
And I doubt highly that your family is any smarter.
I have been studying this plant at a colligate level since early 90's, what have you done and what research have you done?
You are the only one here that sounds like a noob. You are probably one of those late comer med state guys that reads the internet, but has zero knowledge to understand what you read.
So sorry if your pride got offended, but you are a total idiotic moron!
Now shut your hole and try not to let your pride type another response!

Fuck you very much. I’m known here. Who the hell are you?

 

[newgrow16]

Not that anyone cares, but having done much research on this topic since 2010, here goes:
michiganmedgrower quotes valid hospital admission research, although I have found more. Specifically that the anti endemic properties of mmj, settling Stomach and helping appetite, may be reversed in some rare situations. cbd actually was quoted as a possible cause.

My experience, vomiting which started first thing in morning , lasting 12-16 hours was always made worse if I smoked, sweats and chills, what I imagined heroin withdrawal would be like. lost about 21 days over a 4 year time, and lost bout 25lbs.

does that sound like gall bladder? No, but the combination did weird things to my body. I could feel the release of bile and headed for the closest sink. dr finally decided to remove gall bladder, but took several more episodes of vomiting over two years before I was back to not puking myself to death every three months.

I believe that my condition was caused by gall bladder going bad, but the symptoms, being the same as the 8 hospital patients mentioned above was made different because of heavy mmj use on my part. Have not had an incident for several years but started using my own homegrown mmj during same time. Any relationship?

Still at times i experience a wave of nausea, probably a drop in blood sugar, also related to mmj use, ??

 

[whitebb2727]

I would be interested in reading the studies that show cannabis to be the cause if stomach problems.

 

[newgrow16]

Dug down into some research, I think starting here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/ biased website but check the research links in article

The Effects of Cannabinoids in the Gastrointestinal System
The gastrointestinal actions of cannabinoids are mediated chiefly by CB1 receptors (Figure 2). Activation of CB1 receptors result in inhibition of gastric acid secretion, lower esophageal sphincter relaxation [40], altered intestinal motility [41,42], visceral pain, and inflammation [9,43]. CB1 receptor activation reduces gastric motility and results in delayed gastric emptying in rat models [44,45]. In humans, THC given at doses used to prevent chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting causes a significant delay in gastric emptying [46]. These findings in humans are further supported by a randomized, placebo-controlled trial with dronabinol that resulted in a significant delay in gastric emptying [47]. In comparison to other adverse effects associated with cannabinoids, delayed gastric emptying appears to be particularly resistant to the development of tolerance [48]. Additionally, intermittent administration of THC results in hypersensitization of the delayed gastric emptying effect [49]. THC’s effect on gastric motility is a paradox, as a delay in gastric emptying would be expected to promote nausea and vomiting [50]. However, nausea and vomiting traditionally do not occur with cannabis use, likely due to the anti-emetic properties of THC on the central nervous system.

 

[newgrow16]

The Leafly website has a good article with several different ideas about the cause:

https://www.leafly.com/news/health/what-is-cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome

 

[kona gold]

Dug down into some research, I think starting here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/ biased website but check the research links in article

The Effects of Cannabinoids in the Gastrointestinal System
The gastrointestinal actions of cannabinoids are mediated chiefly by CB1 receptors (Figure 2). Activation of CB1 receptors result in inhibition of gastric acid secretion, lower esophageal sphincter relaxation [40], altered intestinal motility [41,42], visceral pain, and inflammation [9,43]. CB1 receptor activation reduces gastric motility and results in delayed gastric emptying in rat models [44,45]. In humans, THC given at doses used to prevent chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting causes a significant delay in gastric emptying [46]. These findings in humans are further supported by a randomized, placebo-controlled trial with dronabinol that resulted in a significant delay in gastric emptying [47]. In comparison to other adverse effects associated with cannabinoids, delayed gastric emptying appears to be particularly resistant to the development of tolerance [48]. Additionally, intermittent administration of THC results in hypersensitization of the delayed gastric emptying effect [49]. THC’s effect on gastric motility is a paradox, as a delay in gastric emptying would be expected to promote nausea and vomiting [50]. However, nausea and vomiting traditionally do not occur with cannabis use, likely due to the anti-emetic properties of THC on the central nervous system.

Thank you for the information.

 

[kona gold]

Fuck you very much. I’m known here. Who the hell are you?

"I am known here!"

Big deal!!!
I bet you think the friends you have on Facebook are really friends!?!

You just a medical grower probably growing in a tent!!

 

[kona gold]

Lol. Only 8 cases have been shown to not have other causes out of 1000’s of complaints. And half of them have the other vomiting disorder.

And the 4 left they can’t determine the cause of action.

Either quote actual cases and show actual information or please stop.

I just read all the rest of the limited info on the internet in case something tangible has surfaced.

It has not. All the recent articles just quote the 1 verified 2004 study at the Mayo Clinic.

And every supposed regular smoker with the condition sounds like an uninformed noob and somehow has a brother or friend with the same condition. Even though if it is in fact real it would be extremely rare.

I would highly suggest mental health treatment. That’s what even the doctors that believe this are starting with.

Good luck. I hope you feel better. I can only help you if cannabanoids are beneficial. Whatever you want to think. I have devoted my life to education about our plant. Mrs. MMG has already had her internal cysts eliminated by medical marijuana. She suffered all her life until we grew her medicine.

I was answering your question on the schizophrenia study, dumbass!

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

"I am known here!"

Big deal!!!
I bet you think the friends you have on Facebook are really friends!?!

You just a medical grower probably growing in a tent!!

I meant in person but I’m just answering to your childish name calling and insinuations.

Carry on. I’m trying to actually learn something.

And I don’t use Facebook. Why do you need to keep making things up about me? And what is “just a medical grower”?

I still use some tents for veg. Does that count?