The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Your logic is more like, 'if I can make a smoke comment it a personal attack, I've won'

Pathetic
You are the guy that believes that the statement "if you keep doing the same thing, expect the same result" is logical. Sorry noob, that is what is known as an aphormism.

That's some deep though.

Bernie should look before he leaps because a stitch in time saves nine. As far as his fundraising goes, well a penny saved is a penny earned.

Look at me, I am a consultant!

 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
You are the guy that believes that the statement "if you keep doing the same thing, expect the same result" is logical. Sorry noob, that is what is known as an aphormism.

That's some deep though.

Bernie should look before he leaps because a stitch in time saves nine. As far as his fundraising goes, well a penny saved is a penny earned.

Look at me, I am a consultant!

And yet you haven't come up with a single reason to be FOR anyone.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
And yet you haven't come up with a single reason to be FOR anyone.
And you haven't given me a single reason why I have to be. Yet you keep using this cudgel like it means something. It doesn't. Somebody who has a better understanding of politics would know that. You don't - because you are a noob.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
And you haven't given me a single reason why I have to be. Yet you keep using this cudgel like it means something. It doesn't. Somebody who has a better understanding of politics would know that. You don't - because you are a noob.
Yet another personal attack from the thesaurus for middle schoolers.

Noob noob noob.

Yet when confronted with serious questions you say stupid shit like you don't have to be for anything.

Okay, fine. Then you abdicate your responsibility as a citizen to make your country better and still want to be treated like an adult.

Someone with a better understanding of politics sees your puerile attempts at redirection as sophomoric and vacuous- and rightfully so.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Yet another personal attack from the thesaurus for middle schoolers.

Noob noob noob.

Yet when confronted with serious questions you say stupid shit like you don't have to be for anything.

Okay, fine. Then you abdicate your responsibility as a citizen to make your country better and still want to be treated like an adult.

Someone with a better understanding of politics sees your puerile attempts at redirection as sophomoric and vacuous- and rightfully so.
Yeah, that's some fine Tty logic there.

You are good at politics tty. You should run for office. Then we'll be sorry.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
And you haven't given me a single reason why I have to be.
It's easy to criticize someone who stands for something. If you don't stand for anything, there's nothing to criticize. That's why the criticisms of the politicians others support are met with skepticism. On this side of the fence, you're only criticizing the politicians others support because you don't like the people who support them. Not because of the actual policies of the politicians the others support. That's also why so many of your sides attacks rely on personal information rather than policy positions.

When you sit back and say "Your guy sucks!" from the stands without providing a better alternative, you're not really saying anything.. You're just making noise.

Great! You think my guy sucks. OK, that's fine. But what better solutions can you offer instead? Who has a better chance at beating Trump in 2020? Shouldn't that be the key? Isn't that what your ilk have claimed since Trump was elected? Because right now, it seems like your side is actively fighting against the strongest possible candidate that could take down the Trump administration. All the momentum is with progressives. Establishment Democrats have no alternative; support progressives or lose to Trump again in 2020. 2018 is going to expose a lot. We'll see where the Democratic establishment is headed for 2020
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
It's easy to criticize someone who stands for something. If you don't stand for anything, there's nothing to criticize. That's why the criticisms of the politicians others support are met with skepticism. On this side of the fence, you're only criticizing the politicians others support because you don't like the people who support them. Not because of the actual policies of the politicians the others support. That's also why so many of your sides attacks rely on personal information rather than policy positions.

When you sit back and say "Your guy sucks!" from the stands without providing a better alternative, you're not really saying anything.. You're just making noise.

Great! You think my guy sucks. OK, that's fine. But what better solutions can you offer instead? Who has a better chance at beating Trump in 2020? Shouldn't that be the key? Isn't that what your ilk have claimed since Trump was elected? Because right now, it seems like your side is actively fighting against the strongest possible candidate that could take down the Trump administration. All the momentum is with progressives. Establishment Democrats have no alternative; support progressives or lose to Trump again in 2020. 2018 is going to expose a lot. We'll see where the Democratic establishment is headed for 2020
You're a noob though.
 

potroastV2

Well-Known Member
Your logic is more like, 'if I can make a snide comment or a personal attack, I've won'

Pathetic
I agree, absolutely pathetic.

It appears that you have designed your responses just like forrest trump! Whatever he says about others is exactly what can be said about him.

Almost every post of yours includes a personal attack, and I for one am completely sick of it! I've deleted some of them, and yet you continue. Then you complain that other members are responding to you with personal attacks.

I actually have trouble believing that you can be so dense that you don't see what most every poster has pointed out to you! You always respond to them, solely to disagree, and then another attack.

So now call me a ballwasher, clown, or coward, and then whine some more about all of these personal attacks.

:roll:



:mrgreen:
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Tell us again about your progressive views on Russian election meddling in 2016.
Due process is not a "progressive view", it's a staple of American law and a big part of what actually makes America great

If Mueller's investigation concludes Russia influenced the 2016 election based on valid evidence, I would support it
 
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