abandonconflict
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Goliath would have won.
The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018
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tangerinegreen555
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Your questions sound like a C- student in an 8th grade Civics class. And you got the C- just by showing up.
ttystikk
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That answer is an F.
He brought up solid points and the best you could do was whine about something irrelevant and make a lame insult.
Why isn't buying the DNC at least as big a scandal as any of the rest of the issues?
Why is it fine and dandy for corporations and the wealthy to drown our political system in (tax deductible!) cash? How is that not blatant corruption? Just because they legalized it?!
You got any other grade F answers?
tangerinegreen555
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Is F a code for your favorite word?
ttystikk
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It's okay if our team does it.
Nevermind that once our team gets elected they don't do shit for average Americans, either.
The Democrats are as corrupt as the Republicans. Why do they get a free pass?
tangerinegreen555
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Defacto Trump supporter.
ttystikk
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Grade F.
Name call when you can't refute the point.
Tell us again how supporting the same party that hasn't effectively represented average Americans for HALF A CENTURY is going to magically bring about change.
tangerinegreen555
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That's your opinion. As a defacto Trump supporter who talks a lot like him. On a pot site.
Carry on.
ttystikk
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Another grade F post that doesn't come close to speaking to the issue.
Have you been taking debating lessons from UncleSchmuck again?
Or maybe you have a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Democrats supported the rollback of banking regulations? Rolling over on DACA? Failing to defend the ACA?
tangerinegreen555
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You're no damn teacher. You're more biased than half the righties. And F means other things to you.
ttystikk
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Try to stay on topic. The Democrats have been miserable failures at fighting for middle class American issues.
Nancy Pelosi has watched the compete destruction of the Party and yet see nothing wrong- she's still making money!
The best you can manage is to call Progressives 'Trumpers' and then wonder why we have no respect for your position.
WE'RE doing something. You're still defending the people who got us into this fucking mess in the first place.
Are you that terrified of change? Are you really satisfied with how things are? Is it cool with you that America has become everything the world despised most about Nazism?
We murder Innocents from the sky with robots, for profit- while calling them 'humanitarian' missions. The Democrats take money from the banking and defense industries, you can't say they aren't complicit.
Democrats have so utterly failed to protect workers and the needs of middle class Americans for so long no one even expects them to try anymore, yet you scream when someone holds them accountable?
tangerinegreen555
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No, I'm calling you and your buddy defacto Trump supporters.
18 months past the election and you still bitch about the 2016 DNC and Clinton?
Exactly like Trump.
The SCOTUS appt. alone shows your ignorance. Unless you want to jam conservatives on the court to help insure your progressive ideas are rejected when judicially challenged.
ttystikk
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Yep, because the Democratic Party STILL hasn't taken any of the lessons of last election season to heart, they STILL haven't changed any of their processes or policies, they STILL haven't gotten rid of the Superdelegates whom they freely admit are there expressly to prevent their constituents from actually choosing the candidates.
The Democratic Party is at least as corrupt as the Republican Party. But that's cool with you because they're your team! Hypocrite.
You'll go on the attack but you never seem to have any logical arguments for why we should be Democrats?
You smear Progressives as Trumpers, just do you don't have to admit that the Democrats are totally vulnerable on their Left.
Why are the Democrats are totally vulnerable on their Left? Because they fucking abandoned their base in return for donor cash from the same wealthy individuals and corporations that fund the Republicans!
But do you ever address that? Noooooo
abandonconflict
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He seems to think that the best way to advance leftist ideas is to elect righties like Trump. He even said that Trump winning the presidency was and I quote "the best thing that has happened for the left in (his) lifetime".
tangerinegreen555
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Address SCOTUS and lower court judicial appts. that I've mentioned since 2016 as the most important outcome of the election.
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Or pretend it's fine and dandy like a Trump supporter.
ttystikk
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You don't even vote and you won't say who you support or what you stand for.
That makes you a hypocrite and a coward.
Go cry to Mommy.
ttystikk
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The notion that if I didn't vote for a Democrat then I must be a Trumper is bankrupt. The Democratic Party has no right to expect my vote; they have to earn it, just like anyone else. They've failed in every way, across the nation yet they don't care.
Why the fuck should I support such a Trainwreck when other, far better options exist?
Winners get to make judicial appointments. Winners have to represent their constituents. Until the Democratic Party starts representing us, they're gonna keep losing.
tangerinegreen555
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That's the point, stupid.
ttystikk
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They can only win if they represent the needs of their constituents instead of their donors, stupid.
Since they won't, millions like me are building a movement that will represent us. We will win and then we too will be able to choose judges.
But keep shilling for the team that doesn't give a fuck about you.
tangerinegreen555
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Thank you for your help.
Now tell us more about those millions like you and what they got out of 2016.