Trump Tweets "Get ready Russia"

ttystikk

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Back to the thread topic, Iran is learning that America does not keep the promises it makes in treaties- this is a long standing habit, going back to those made with native Americans.

China realizes that it's the target du jour of tariffs- not undeserved frankly, as they've had things well in their favor for decades.

Russia is under sanctions from the West for doing the same thing the West has been doing to them for decades.

These three Nations are in the midst of creating their own trade bloc for mutual benefit, one which will increasingly be tempting for other nations to become involved with, from South Asia to Africa and even South America.

America's blatantly imperialistic colonialist behavior has driven them into such a strategy, one they might not have contemplated had the West treated them with more respect.

They'll peel off other Nations fed up with being abused at the hands of the Western Powers, from Venezuela to Pakistan to North Korea and several African Nations.

Maybe instead of funding our (offensive) defense department, perhaps we should be ramping up our diplomatic efforts and engaging them in trade and commerce for mutual gain.

The fact that we aren't tells me just how shortsighted and greedy America's oligarchs have become.
 
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ttystikk

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Exempt on steel and aluminum. The plant I mention produces more QUALITY steel than any USA plant. for your own info. And it is fact. Bethlehem steel doesn't come close :D

My point was we are going to both boom as manufacturers. USA and Canada if the tariff goes through. I would say we were about 20 percent off of Chinese pricing and now we are all in the game.

I think Mr Trump did a good thing for business. As he said he would.

But consumers might be pissed when prices go up except.....wages are going up and tax is going down so maybe not.

Fuck i need a program to keep up with it.

And if President Trump makes it so that you pay more for goods BUT your wages go up and everyone that wants a job is employed.......welcome to a 2nd term of Trump.

I just need 2 years and i am retiring so have at it. Lets boom for 2 years it would be awesome

I amended to quality steel. China can have low carbon steel it is like the dollar store of steel. Mid to high carbon steel is a lot more sophisticated to make.

And I work in the steel business so I have an idea how it works. I analyze steel patterns and trends so we can predict the future. I have a golden magic 8 ball and a crystal ball and a wicked set of dice.
The only wages going up in America are skilled workers and software developers. Wages in the steel industry might bounce but that doesn't help the millions of service workers and others who can't get full time work because Corporations don't want to pay benefits.

I took properties of materials classes in college, they focused mostly on steel at the time. I'm aware of the different grades of steel out there and your assessment is right on. Is the mill you work for using raw ore or does it follow the mini mill pattern of recycling scrap?
 

ttystikk

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Can't see America going to war with Russia unless Trumpet Head is fucked in the head. Every time that twat opens his mouth another cunt load a shit falls out.
Proxy wars, like Afghanistan, Ukraine and now Syria. Putin is a smart man and he'll start using the same strategies to destabilize the United States, if he hasn't already. Who can blame him?
 

gwheels

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I disagree. We should say fuck you to all of them. Fuck Russia, Fuck Iran, Fuck China. Bending over for all of them has gone on far too long. And I am Canadian. The more Mr Trump goes crazy the more I agree with him. 55 is a good year
 

ttystikk

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I disagree. We should say fuck you to all of them. Fuck Russia, Fuck Iran, Fuck China. Bending over for all of them has gone on far too long. And I am Canadian. The more Mr Trump goes crazy the more I agree with him. 55 is a good year
Instead of being angry at other countries who frankly haven't done anything to you, consider holding those who HAVE rigged the economy here in their favor and are impoverishing the many to line their own pockets?

Yes, I'm talking about the rich, the very ones pumping billions into our political system to rig it in their favor.

The Chump included.
 

gwheels

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Can't see America going to war with Russia unless Trumpet Head is fucked in the head. Every time that twat opens his mouth another cunt load a shit falls out.
Fuck Russia too. How can all of the Liberal mindset accept any dealings with that country. Remember Sochi. We have no gay men. We eradicated them Geeze what a shithole
 

gwheels

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Instead of being angry at other countries who frankly haven't done anything to you, consider holding those who HAVE rigged the economy here in their favor and are impoverishing the many to line their own pockets?

Yes, I'm talking about the rich, the very ones pumping billions into our political system to rig it in their favor.

The Chump included.
What is rich? 100k a year is rich? 85K a year is rich. The line keeps going into my pocket and i have worked my ass off for 35 years to get to that line. How about the people that bitch go and get a skilled trade and stop bitching. You know like HVAC/AC...mechanics...plumbers pipefitters carpenters welders. Cry me a river go and get it.

Nothing pisses me off more than the whining population sitting on their ass with their hand out. POOR ME

Fuck I might be a republican Canadian WTF happened.
 

Grandpapy

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What is rich? 100k a year is rich? 85K a year is rich. The line keeps going into my pocket and i have worked my ass off for 35 years to get to that line. How about the people that bitch go and get a skilled trade and stop bitching. You know like HVAC/AC...mechanics...plumbers pipefitters carpenters welders. Cry me a river go and get it.

Nothing pisses me off more than the whining population sitting on their ass with their hand out. POOR ME

Fuck I might be a republican Canadian WTF happened.
ikr?
Session and Trump have been working hard to please his tax base. as well as his State's investors.
Soon we will all see the answer! Meet the new Boss.

One of 4 Chinese owned Steel Mills in Alabama.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-clash-of-cultures-at-alabama-factory-1456655407
A union, which workers narrowly approved in 2014, is pressing for an increase in wages that currently start at $11 an hour.
 

vostok

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Proxy wars, like Afghanistan, Ukraine and now Syria. Putin is a smart man and he'll start using the same strategies to destabilize the United States, if he hasn't already. Who can blame him?
I like the idea I never liked any land from Darwin to Dover is ideal spot to pratice

what putin intends and with ur idiot in DC

who can stop him Da

the Chinese but are at war with Uhmerica anyways ...lol

shame Stikk will always like your posts

bad time for this to happen

JUST AS UHMERICA IS UPDATING THEIR 1960 ERA NUKES..?

here come the shitty 1972 cruise missiles just like Iraq

wheres my flare gun again boom boom!
 

gwheels

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Holy crap the Canadian steel mill is run by the USA and employs Canadians because they are in Canada eh. Fuck China. I found since I hit a certain age F bombs can happen. It depends :D LOL
 

whitebb2727

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Careful. They'll call you a conspiracy theorist.

Funny how those chemical attacks always happen when Assad is winning and the US is trying to pull out, isn't it?
From what I've seen on the news it doesn't look like nerve agents. Looks like the shit they made us breathe in basic. That shit will make you cough, gag and run snot everywhere.

I haven't watched a lot of it though. The news said "alleged" attacks.
 

Fogdog

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What is rich? 100k a year is rich? 85K a year is rich. The line keeps going into my pocket and i have worked my ass off for 35 years to get to that line. How about the people that bitch go and get a skilled trade and stop bitching. You know like HVAC/AC...mechanics...plumbers pipefitters carpenters welders. Cry me a river go and get it.

Nothing pisses me off more than the whining population sitting on their ass with their hand out. POOR ME

Fuck I might be a republican Canadian WTF happened.
Quite right.

@ttystikk doesn't work but he has great plans for other people's money.
 

ttystikk

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I like the idea I never liked any land from Darwin to Dover is ideal spot to pratice

what putin intends and with ur idiot in DC

who can stop him Da

the Chinese but are at war with Uhmerica anyways ...lol

shame Stikk will always like your posts

bad time for this to happen

JUST AS UHMERICA IS UPDATING THEIR 1960 ERA NUKES..?

here come the shitty 1972 cruise missiles just like Iraq

wheres my flare gun again boom boom!
There's a Russian word for 'can't be reasoned with'.

Putin has used it in regards to Trump.

Putin is right.
 

bundee1

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Back to the thread topic, Iran is learning that America does not keep the promises it makes in treaties- this is a long standing habit, going back to those made with native Americans.

China realizes that it's the target du jour of tariffs- not undeserved frankly, as they've had things well in their favor for decades.

Russia is under sanctions from the West for doing the same thing the West has been doing to them for decades.

These three Nations are in the midst of creating their own trade bloc for mutual benefit, one which will increasingly be tempting for other nations to become involved with, from South Asia to Africa and even South America.

America's blatantly imperialistic colonialist behavior has driven them into such a strategy, one they might not have contemplated had the West treated them with more respect.

They'll peel off other Nations fed up with being abused at the hands of the Western Powers, from Venezuela to Pakistan to North Korea and several African Nations.

Maybe instead of funding our (offensive) defense department, perhaps we should be ramping up our diplomatic efforts and engaging them in trade and commerce for mutual gain.

The fact that we aren't tells me just how shortsighted and greedy America's oligarchs have become.
We had a state department until your unspoken love destroyed it.
 

Sir Napsalot

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I disagree. We should say fuck you to all of them. Fuck Russia, Fuck Iran, Fuck China. Bending over for all of them has gone on far too long. And I am Canadian. The more Mr Trump goes crazy the more I agree with him. 55 is a good year
In 1955 America is segregated

White people are doing pretty well though
 

Lucky Luke

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Well that is not correct. I know we have the largest most efficient and green steel mill in Canada. Personally. :D A rolling mill that can produce 900,000 tons of quality steel a year and we have been directly competing with China. And now we have a massive advantage if the tariff goes into place because we work on tight margins in Canada.

900,000 tons is max capacity which is 1.8 billion pounds a year

Millions were spent to be green. Special bagging operations (the difusion of waste), heat recapture to heat up scrap. All of this and China comes in with shit steel and claims it is as good although our tooling has always proved it is not as good.

Now USA can buy Canadian or USA and stop buying the substandard Chinese crap. BUT

For the regular guy your price of BBQs is going up, wheels, cars, the list of tarriffed is 50 pages of groups of things. Walmart may never be the same again.

But fuck them. I hate walmart and i sure as shit dont shop there. The coffin nail to business. I hope they suffer.

Sorry for the digression.

I have seen electrodes like from welding but 1 foot in diameter and 6 feet long go into an 80 ton pot of mixed steel and covert it into liquid in 90 seconds. It is like a thousand explosions in 90 seconds and the smell of steel being created. OMG I love it. The heat is insanity but it is power conversion to a useful metal. Steel is the most recyclable metal in existence and used in most facets of regular life.
That's a small mill and wont put a dent into the supply line. Sure you may sell some more steel..but at the end of the day the company wont want to expand to fast (or at all..) as it may all come crashing down very, very fast.

If you think that Chinese steel wont be coming in thru Australia or India or any other except country you have not thought about it to much...or, even if China could easily cut its costs enough to still be cheaper than you. Realistically if they can cut the shipping costs of iron ore from Australia (iron ore prices have been falling) and the shipping costs of the steel from China to America then that may make up the % differences.

I'm not sure why an advanced country like Canada wants to get into manufacturing and compete with 3rd world countries and their costs, not to mention their horrendous environmental controls or lack of.
 
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