How can we more effectively prevent mass shootings?

Sativied

Sativied

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UncleBuck said:
you live under a dictator. putin is a pedophile.

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As if Trump isn’t a pedophile horny for his own daughter... ridiculous to even suggest you are still in a position to talk shit about Russia. Way more nutjobs in the US. “Between 2000 and 2015 there were at least 207,468 child marriages in the United States of which over 1,000 marriage licences were for children under 15, some as young as ten years old.”

If not shot in class kids are raped by teachers in the US ( https://nypost.com/2018/03/26/teacher-allegedly-performed-oral-sex-on-13-year-old-in-class/ ) as if it’s a sport and the most popular type of porn in the US is incest porn...

...but hey, how about them crazy russians right :rolleyes: :lol:

Funny european joke:
What’s the difference between the US and Russia?
In Russia the dictator had to rig the election and eliminate opponents to win.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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Sativied said:
As if Trump isn’t a pedophile horny for his own daughter... ridiculous to even suggest you are still in a position to talk shit about Russia. Way more nutjobs in the US. “Between 2000 and 2015 there were at least 207,468 child marriages in the United States of which over 1,000 marriage licences were for children under 15, some as young as ten years old.”

If not shot in class kids are raped by teachers in the US ( https://nypost.com/2018/03/26/teacher-allegedly-performed-oral-sex-on-13-year-old-in-class/ ) as if it’s a sport and the most popular type of porn in the US is incest porn...

...but hey, how about them crazy russians right :rolleyes: :lol:

Funny european joke:
What’s the difference between the US and Russia?
In Russia the dictator had to rig the election and eliminate opponents to win.
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But in Russia it's the women's fault for being raped and as a result, it's no longer a problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Sativied said:
As if Trump isn’t a pedophile horny for his own daughter... ridiculous to even suggest you are still in a position to talk shit about Russia. Way more nutjobs in the US. “Between 2000 and 2015 there were at least 207,468 child marriages in the United States of which over 1,000 marriage licences were for children under 15, some as young as ten years old.”

If not shot in class kids are raped by teachers in the US ( https://nypost.com/2018/03/26/teacher-allegedly-performed-oral-sex-on-13-year-old-in-class/ ) as if it’s a sport and the most popular type of porn in the US is incest porn...

...but hey, how about them crazy russians right :rolleyes: :lol:

Funny european joke:
What’s the difference between the US and Russia?
In Russia the dictator had to rig the election and eliminate opponents to win.
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Your defense for Putin's government's acts of murder and actions against democratic nations is the that the US is worse?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Unclebaldrick said:
Do you even watch Jimmy Dore?
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LOL I have pulled up a few of his videos to get a read on him. He does the same thing that other left-posing sites does which is a delivery in a manner designed to generate rage. He speaks nonsense too. I saw one bit where he charged Clinton and establishment Democrats of being paid by Koch brothers to deliver a Republican government for them.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Sativied said:
Oh ffs. As usual, that does not follow. Amazing how you are able to write and read English words and still don’t understand it. When someone accuses others of being a pot calling the kettle black, it doesn’t mean that someone condones or defends either the pot or the kettle. Americans are no longer in a position to ridicule a Russian for his/her country’s leader. I hope that much is obvious despite having your ignorant head up buck’s stretched gaping and leaking ahole.

Let me illustrate with an example:


Your defense for kids being raped every day by teachers in the US is that Russia is worse?

Nowhere did I defend Putin’s actions, nowhere did I said the US did worse. In fact, one of the biggest mistakes the US and allies made at the end of WWII is not finish the fight and instead leave Europe divided and its east occupied by Russia. Russia, China and NK all are what they are as a result. The war in Syria going on too long is an indirect result (Russian vetoes). I’m oldskool, Russia, communism, socialism, it’s unnatural and evil. Russians, however, mostly good people, and they deserve better. You on the other hand, you brought this onto yourselves, all by yourselves (as much as you like to blame Russians for trump). If you had any decency, you would at least respect the struggle of the Russians, at least they tried to reason. Many Russian now don’t know better, litterally, they only know worse. You on the other hand, when was the last time you went out on the streets and protested against your leader. It’s after all “The Germans are coming” not “the Nazis are coming”...


Same question for grandpapy and justin-case as you: what is it like to prioritize your nationalism, feelings, and ego over reason and the truth? If you all have 1/3 functioning brain maybe you can combined figure out what just happened... unfortunately, as I pointed out before, both sides in the US are pigeons. Anti intellectualism is what put and keeps trump in power, why do you keep embracing the virus that is destroying the US?
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Good heavens

The fallacy of your "US does bad so Russia should be given a pass" is a common shtty debate tactic used by losing high school debaters and Trump. The logical fallacy is so common it has a name even you might recognize -- false equivalency. You compare kiddie rape in the US with Putin ordering defenestration off the roof of a US embassy. Both are bad, idiot. One has nothing to do with the other.

Now, then. getting to the nub of your retarded defense of Putin. Why are you doing so? He's stepped up his murderous campaigns everywhere. Within his country, in the UK and In Syria what with his support of the gas man.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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Sativied said:
Oh ffs. As usual, that does not follow. Amazing how you are able to write and read English words and still don’t understand it. When someone accuses others of being a pot calling the kettle black, it doesn’t mean that someone condones or defends either the pot or the kettle. Americans are no longer in a position to ridicule a Russian for his/her country’s leader. I hope that much is obvious despite having your ignorant head up buck’s stretched gaping and leaking ahole.

Let me illustrate with an example:


Your defense for kids being raped every day by teachers in the US is that Russia is worse?

Nowhere did I defend Putin’s actions, nowhere did I said the US did worse. In fact, one of the biggest mistakes the US and allies made at the end of WWII is not finish the fight and instead leave Europe divided and its east occupied by Russia. Russia, China and NK all are what they are as a result. The war in Syria going on too long is an indirect result (Russian vetoes). I’m oldskool, Russia, communism, socialism, it’s unnatural and evil. Russians, however, mostly good people, and they deserve better. You on the other hand, you brought this onto yourselves, all by yourselves (as much as you like to blame Russians for trump). If you had any decency, you would at least respect the struggle of the Russians, at least they tried to reason. Many Russian now don’t know better, litterally, they only know worse. You on the other hand, when was the last time you went out on the streets and protested against your leader. It’s after all “The Germans are coming” not “the Nazis are coming”...


Same question for grandpapy and justin-case as you: what is it like to prioritize your nationalism, feelings, and ego over reason and the truth? If you all have 1/3 functioning brain maybe you can combined figure out what just happened... unfortunately, as I pointed out before, both sides in the US are pigeons. Anti intellectualism is what put and keeps trump in power, why do you keep embracing the virus that is destroying the US?
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Who do you have more dis stain for, The US or Women?

Women in Russia have few equality laws to protect them, and the overall status of women is considered worse than it was a decade ago. In 2004 the country’s commission on women, which operated under the leadership of the deputy minister of the Russian Federation, was suspended. The country’s national action plan for the advancement of women ended in 2005.
http://www.herizons.ca/node/588

Learn to love yourself and your mother.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Your defense for Putin's government's acts of murder and actions against democratic nations is the that the US is worse?
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Maybe, just maybe we should put our own house in order before judging others.

I realize that's an unfamiliar concept to Americans.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Maybe, just maybe we should put our own house in order before judging others.

I realize that's an unfamiliar concept to Americans.
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I'm fine with that. There was nothing in my reply that suggested the US not put its house in order.

I reject the fallacy of false equivalence. What @Sativied did was defend Russian aggression and murder by saying there were child molesters in the US. Clearly a false equivalence and monumentally stupid. Don't you agree?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Good heavens

The fallacy of your "US does bad so Russia should be given a pass" is a common shtty debate tactic used by losing high school debaters and Trump. The logical fallacy is so common it has a name even you might recognize -- false equivalency. You compare kiddie rape in the US with Putin ordering defenestration off the roof of a US embassy. Both are bad, idiot. One has nothing to do with the other.

Now, then. getting to the nub of your retarded defense of Putin. Why are you doing so? He's stepped up his murderous campaigns everywhere. Within his country, in the UK and In Syria what with his support of the gas man.
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We'd have a bit more credibility if we did.

We'd have even more if we stopped supporting wars where civilians are being targeted (Yemen).

We'd have even more if we stopped pointing fingers in the wrong direction when woken and children are being gassed in false flag attacks (Syria).

Fuck, when even warmongering Faux Spews says it;
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
We'd have a bit more credibility if we did.

We'd have even more if we stopped supporting wars where civilians are being targeted (Yemen).

We'd have even more if we stopped pointing fingers in the wrong direction when woken and children are being gassed in false flag attacks (Syria).

Fuck, when even warmongering Faux Spews says it;
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So FOX is right when they agree with you?

:roll:
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
We'd have a bit more credibility if we did.

We'd have even more if we stopped supporting wars where civilians are being targeted (Yemen).

We'd have even more if we stopped pointing fingers in the wrong direction when woken and children are being gassed in false flag attacks (Syria).

Fuck, when even warmongering Faux Spews says it;
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didn't watch the video.

LOL. Show a credible source that says children were gassed in a false flag attack. moonofalabama? LOL.
 
thetr33man

thetr33man

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Change it from a gun issue into a murder issue is a good start. Messing with law abiding citizens freedom isnt a good thing...
 
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