How can we more effectively prevent mass shootings?

Fogdog said:

Good heavens

The fallacy of your "US does bad so Russia should be given a pass" is a common shtty debate tactic used by losing high school debaters and Trump. The logical fallacy is so common it has a name even you might recognize -- false equivalency. You compare kiddie rape in the US with Putin ordering defenestration off the roof of a US embassy. Both are bad, idiot. One has nothing to do with the other.

Now, then. getting to the nub of your retarded defense of Putin. Why are you doing so? He's stepped up his murderous campaigns everywhere. Within his country, in the UK and In Syria what with his support of the gas man.

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“Good heavens” how fitting for an anti-intellectual protestant.

You just outdumbed yourself. Never ever try to point out and explain a fallacy if you don’t understand it. You’re like a rebel getting armed, still ends up shooting himself in the foot.

Fogdog said:

I reject the fallacy of false equivalence. What @Sativied did was defend Russian aggression and murder by saying there were child molesters in the US. Clearly a false equivalence and monumentally stupid. Don't you agree?

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No, I can tell you he doesn’t agree as he seems to comprehend English even between the lines. I did not defend Russians agression in any way (suggesting I did disqualifies you from calling others stupid, stupid) and there is no false equivalence. That would be the case if, as the name suggest lol, my argument and intention was to show equivalence based on a typically irrelevant shared trait.

Example:
Neo nazis wants to preserve western society and kill jews
Sativied wants to preserve western society and get high a lot
Your master’s false equivalence: sativied is a neo who wants to kill jews.

It does not apply if both sides are jew killing nazis my simple Fogdoll.

Again, baffling how you fail at understanding your own language. You should start with the most basic fallacy of all: it does not follow... you don’t get to make up your own interpretation or meaning of words like defend. Lying about what one said, and then crying fallacy and failing... man, just sign up at your nearest community college and seek help.

ttystikk said:

Maybe, just maybe we should put our own house in order before judging others.

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Right, which any one with more than half a brain can infer from my bait... err posts is exactly what I’m saying.

Grandpapy said:

Who do you have more dis stain for, The US or Women?

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Irrelevant. Suggestive. False dilemma. Does not follow. Please learn to understand English if you want me to reply. Some intellectual honesty would be nice too. Russia is fucked up, that took time. US is actively becoming more and more fucked up as we speak. Do something about that before you think you are in a position to ridicule Russian. Many Russians have died trying to get more freedom by reasoning with their oppressors, something completely foreign to you.

Sativied said:

“Good heavens” how fitting for an anti-intellectual protestant.

You just outdumbed yourself. Never ever try to point out and explain a fallacy if you don’t understand it. You’re like a rebel getting armed, still ends up shooting himself in the foot.

No, I can tell you he doesn’t agree as he seems to comprehend English even between the lines. I did not defend Russians agression in any way (suggesting I did disqualifies you from calling others stupid, stupid) and there is no false equivalence. That would be the case if, as the name suggest lol, my argument and intention was to show equivalence based on a typically irrelevant shared trait.

Example:
Neo nazis wants to preserve western society and kill jews
Sativied wants to preserve western society and get high a lot
Your master’s false equivalence: sativied is a neo who wants to kill jews.

It does not apply if both sides are jew killing nazis my simple Fogdoll.

Again, baffling how you fail at understanding your own language. You should start with the most basic fallacy of all: it does not follow... you don’t get to make up your own interpretation or meaning of words like defend. Lying about what one said, and then crying fallacy and failing... man, just sign up at your nearest community college and seek help.

Right, which any one with more than half a brain can infer from my bait... err posts is exactly what I’m saying.

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I don't know why you continue a line of argument that is fallacious. I don't know why you deny doing so yet still use it. I'm simply watching you flail and observe as if I'm watching a bug or something incomprehensible.

Sometimes it's better to admit you made a mistake and move on.

Sativied said:

Irrelevant. Suggestive. False dilemma. Does not follow. Please learn to understand English if you want me to reply. Some intellectual honesty would be nice too. Russia is fucked up, that took time. US is actively becoming more and more fucked up as we speak. Do something about that before you think you are in a position to ridicule Russian. Many Russians have died trying to get more freedom by reasoning with their oppressors, something completely foreign to you.

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Should I direct my hate towards you or our women here?

Fogdog said:

I don't know why you continue a line of argument that is fallacious. I don't know why you deny doing so yet still use it. I'm simply watching you flail and observe as if I'm watching a bug or something incomprehensible.

Sometimes it's better to admit you made a mistake and move on.

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Aburdism ^^ and highly misplaced projection.

You, as a nationalist brainwashed into believing he lives in the greatest nation, where the ubermensch lives, where the flag is glorified, and pride is a religion, read my post as “The US sucks, it’s just another Russia”. Didn’t realize that was such a sensitive trigger. Good to know

You are a such a perfect example of why the Trivium needs to be reimplemented and prioritized in schools. Grammar and spelling is utterly useless without an understanding of logic and rhetoric as well. If you cannot infer the meaning of sentences, you might as well make arbitrary noises or go full ape.

Everyone, including the very best debaters, use fallacies knowingly and unknowingly. If you ever were to catch me on one, and conclude a score of infinity vs 1 makes me monumentally stupid, realize that on the scale of intelligence that would relatively make you a full retard. As long as your (nationalistic) ego is in your way, more important than being accurate or even realistic, you will remain stupid.

Grandpapy said:

Should I direct my hate towards you or our women here?

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Suggestive strawman attack that does not follow from my words. Please learn to understand English if you want me to reply.

Sativied said:

Aburdism ^^ and highly misplaced projection.

You, as a nationalist brainwashed into believing he lives in the greatest nation, where the ubermensch lives, where the flag is glorified, and pride is a religion, read my post as “The US sucks, it’s just another Russia”. Didn’t realize that was such a sensitive trigger. Good to know

You are a such a perfect example of why the Trivium needs to be reimplemented and prioritized in schools. Grammar and spelling is utterly useless without an understanding of logic and rhetoric as well. If you cannot infer the meaning of sentences, you might as well make arbitrary noises or go full ape.

Everyone, including the very best debaters, use fallacies knowingly and unknowingly. If you ever were to catch me on one, and conclude a score of infinity vs 1 makes me monumentally stupid, realize that on the scale of intelligence that would relatively make you a full retard. As long as your (nationalistic) ego is in your way, more important than being accurate or even realistic, you will remain stupid.

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give it up. Once you started the conversation with a false equivalence, you proved yourself the idiot. Just move on.

Yet you keep digging deeper.

Sativied said:

Aburdism ^^ and highly misplaced projection.

You, as a nationalist brainwashed into believing he lives in the greatest nation, where the ubermensch lives, where the flag is glorified, and pride is a religion, read my post as “The US sucks, it’s just another Russia”. Didn’t realize that was such a sensitive trigger. Good to know

You are a such a perfect example of why the Trivium needs to be reimplemented and prioritized in schools. Grammar and spelling is utterly useless without an understanding of logic and rhetoric as well. If you cannot infer the meaning of sentences, you might as well make arbitrary noises or go full ape.

Everyone, including the very best debaters, use fallacies knowingly and unknowingly. If you ever were to catch me on one, and conclude a score of infinity vs 1 makes me monumentally stupid, realize that on the scale of intelligence that would relatively make you a full retard. As long as your (nationalistic) ego is in your way, more important than being accurate or even realistic, you will remain stupid.

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Lol, this is an idiot poster trying to fake clever, jog on

Sativied said:

“The US sucks, it’s just another Russia”. Didn’t realize that was such a sensitive trigger. Good to know

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Give it another 15 yrs and China will have us both where they need us.
How's your wall building to stop the west going, or will you be joining the Communists? Comrade.

thetr33man said:

Change it from a gun issue into a murder issue is a good start. Messing with law abiding citizens freedom isnt a good thing...

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seatbelt laws make criminals out of law abiding citizens

Sativied said:

Aburdism ^^ and highly misplaced projection.

You, as a nationalist brainwashed into believing he lives in the greatest nation, where the ubermensch lives, where the flag is glorified, and pride is a religion, read my post as “The US sucks, it’s just another Russia”. Didn’t realize that was such a sensitive trigger. Good to know

You are a such a perfect example of why the Trivium needs to be reimplemented and prioritized in schools. Grammar and spelling is utterly useless without an understanding of logic and rhetoric as well. If you cannot infer the meaning of sentences, you might as well make arbitrary noises or go full ape.

Everyone, including the very best debaters, use fallacies knowingly and unknowingly. If you ever were to catch me on one, and conclude a score of infinity vs 1 makes me monumentally stupid, realize that on the scale of intelligence that would relatively make you a full retard. As long as your (nationalistic) ego is in your way, more important than being accurate or even realistic, you will remain stupid.

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why do you try to pretend to be an intellectual?

you are a european fascist in the mold of the nazis

Well those of you talking about chinese invasions, its not very pleaseant to think of, let alone if anyone thinks that someone joining them would be welcomed, I doubt that plus I think the whole cannabis movement would be destroyed.

Would I prefer maybe a socialist economic system? Maybe It would be better then corporate fascism. But dont expect to be any happier.

A simple solution is VOTE CALI EXIT. Then they can just take another path from the west and detour cali, isolationism would be great, "yeah china, were not with them anymore" lol