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Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
There were many violent actions taken against these movements. They were put down by the organisations themselves, often with help from law enforcement.

The Beer Hall putsch incident only resulted in Hitler's hailing because it was a direct action against the government.

Krystalnacht was violent action by the Nazis to make it clear they were in charge and that no more violence against them would be tolerated.

You have tried many times to change the subject.

I've said that violence will not stop Nazis. Your pathetic defense of such thuggery amounts to, 'but WWII'!

You'll notice that American police forces often look suspiciously like they're on the side of neonazis during rallies and marches. Why aren't you calling them out? Even their fraternal organization spokespeople openly advocate for authoritarian tactics.
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The Beer Hall Putsch and Krystalancht were violent actions by Nazis that is certain. History shows that the German Government was tolerant towards Nazis and Hitler. You said there were many violent actions taken against the Nazis and I'm asking what they were? Name them or point me to a reference.

You keep talking as if suppression only fanned the fires of fascism and I'm pointing out to you that the German government didn't suppress Nazis, they tried to use them to suppress Communism. Suppresion of Communism was violent and effective. By 1932, the Communist movement was dead in Germany. After Communism was defeated, the Nazi "fire", if you will, escaped their containment and consumed Germany.

Also true that the police forces in this country often side with fascists, be they KKK, alt.right or neo-Nazis. Which proves my point that these movements aren't being suppressed, they are actually on the side of many elements of our government.

I repeat my question to you: When has passive resistance ever stopped fascism and I lump in NAZIs into that question. When?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ripped Farmer said:
Id wait until they say who they are pitting against Trump before anyone feels encouraged. Game show host took down a Clinton, who shouldn't have got the nod in the first place.
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i don't care for you much, but that's true, no matter who says it....they have to pick a viable candidate this time, not another fucking bobblehead doll
 
Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
The Beer Hall Putsch and Krystalancht were violent actions by Nazis that is certain. History shows that the German Government was tolerant towards Nazis and Hitler. You said there were many violent actions taken against the Nazis and I'm asking what they were? Name them or point me to a reference.

You keep talking as if suppression only fanned the fires of fascism and I'm pointing out to you that the German government didn't suppress Nazis, they tried to use them to suppress Communism. Suppresion of Communism was violent and effective. By 1932, the Communist movement was dead in Germany. After Communism was defeated, the Nazi "fire", if you will, escaped their containment and consumed Germany.

Also true that the police forces in this country often side with fascists, be they KKK, alt.right or neo-Nazis. Which proves my point that these movements aren't being suppressed, they are actually on the side of many elements of our government.

I repeat my question to you: When has passive resistance ever stopped fascism and I lump in NAZIs into that question. When?
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I recall that some Communists damaged their truncheons by hitting them with their heads.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'm not sure about that. Europe fairly seethes with old feuds and arguments, it doesn't seem to take much to piss a lot of Europeans off.
after world war one, there were a lot of communist sympathizers and organizers in Europe, and as i understand it, the way Germany handled the situation wasn't much different than the way most others did. use hired thugs to hunt them down, make unionizing illegal, seize bank accounts and assets of known communist organizers, harassment of known or suspected sympathizers....almost like the communist are political jews....
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'm not sure about that. Europe fairly seethes with old feuds and arguments, it doesn't seem to take much to piss a lot of Europeans off.
after world war one, there were a lot of communist sympathizers and organizers in Europe, and as i understand it, the way Germany handled the situation wasn't much different than the way most others did. use hired thugs to hunt them down, make unionizing illegal, seize bank accounts and assets of known communist organizers, harassment of known or suspected sympathizers....almost like the communist are political jews....
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According to tty, violently suppressing Communists should have made them more successful.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the jews got Isreal, the communist got Russia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvi, Lithuania, Belorus....seems like they did ok for a while there
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1930's By that time the German Communist party had been wiped out by Brownshirts who were a paramilitary force trained by Hitler and WW1 vets, funded by industrial capitalists who at the time thought they could control Nazis.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hitler was smart. sick, but smart. he knew he could use the power and popularity he gained doing what those people wanted, and used it to seize power. he understood how to control masses of people, and used that understanding.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
hitler was smart. sick, but smart. he knew he could use the power and popularity he gained doing what those people wanted, and used it to seize power. he understood how to control masses of people, and used that understanding.
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funded by industrial capitalists who thought they could control him.
 
captainmorgan

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
hitler was smart. sick, but smart. he knew he could use the power and popularity he gained doing what those people wanted, and used it to seize power. he understood how to control masses of people, and used that understanding.
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Hitler was ruthless and smart enough to surround himself with smart people but was not what I would call smart. When he stopped listening to his advisers and thought he was smarter than everyone else things went to shit for him.
 
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Darkice91

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If it’s was the other way round and the right where spitting in your drinks and harassing you, you’d be calling the old bill and crying about it so how does it make you any different to them?
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Darkice91 said:
If it’s was the other way round and the right where spitting in your drinks and harassing you, you’d be calling the old bill and crying about it so how does it make you any different to them?
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Ha What do you mean "if" Look at any website comments all you hear is "Hillary lost and you can't get over it "

Ah Jesus another new member straight to the politics section UGH
 
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