VIANARCHRIS
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I doubt it. How are they gonna say they are illicit? I'm sure I can share clones from my own plants. It'll be interesting to see how that is handled.
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VIANARCHRIS
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I'm interested in reading the world reaction to legalization in Canada and there is surprisingly little news out there. I imagine there will be headlines on Wednesday, but we'll see. We know the world is watching.
....if you come across something interesting, please post the link
The Hippy
Well-Known Member
Ya that will give a few cops a head fuck trying to figure out that scenario. If your a med grower and have a license for more.....hmmmmm....what to do???
Like if the cube van has 40 plants in it...but they are legal....I dunno.
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
I don't know about moving a medical garden - that's a different animal with HC. Rec plants should be no problem as long as you don't have more than 4. People have to move all the time, so I'm sure it's going to happen. Canada Post is allowed to transport plants....
MedicatedHiker
Well-Known Member
Yeah, Vancouver wants people to hide their plants as they are growing, but that would part of the process of donating the plants, so it's legal. People are gonna walk their 8 foot plants.
"Oh, but officer, I was bringing it over to my neighbour's. It's a surprise. He's not expecting me."
zoic
Well-Known Member
Well I did a little digging and this is what I found so far.
Still trying to find out if it is different for medical.
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Where did you find that? There is no way in hell that stands up in court. 5 years for carrying a plant, but 7 years maximum for a youth who murders someone. I might take a plant down to the cop shop tomorrow and ask them to explain how that is endangering the public. The cops here would laugh. My prediction is there will be zero charges filed for budding plant violations.
zoic
Well-Known Member
I found the Cannabis Act pdf.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/C-24.5.pdf
Section 8 (1) Unless authorized under this Act, it is prohibited
d. for an individual to possess, in a public place, one
or more cannabis plants that are budding or flowering;
Not sure if this will apply to medical, hopefully not.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/C-24.5.pdf
Section 8 (1) Unless authorized under this Act, it is prohibited
d. for an individual to possess, in a public place, one
or more cannabis plants that are budding or flowering;
Not sure if this will apply to medical, hopefully not.
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Well there goes the clone business for LP's. I don't have home delivery so I have to pick my parcels up at the post office - how would I get them home? Aren't posties breaking the law too? Another ill conceived law that will die. I'm sticking a plant in the back of my truck tomorrow and we'll see what happens lol I listened to the head honcho chiefs of police guy on the radio yesterday and he said cannabis is low on it's list of priorities. Their focus will be on organized crime. He said the laws around personal use will be dealt with with education during a long transition. Let's see if they educate me
zoic
Well-Known Member
From what I can find so far about medical, it would appear that you can only grow cannabis using LP supplied seeds and clones. Fucking ridiculous.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/starting-materials-interim-supply.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/starting-materials-interim-supply.html
TheRealDman
Well-Known Member
It says “budding or flowering plants” in public spaces...nothing about clones or seedlings in veg! 
Also, is your car considered a “public space” if “flowering plants” are out of sight...hmmm?!?!
Also, is your car considered a “public space” if “flowering plants” are out of sight...hmmm?!?!
GreenHighlander
Well-Known Member
I have read that there is a one time ignoring of this for those of us already registered. Either way my stock has never and will never come from what "they" tell me to do. Fuck them and their prohibition 2.0!!!
Cheers
zoic
Well-Known Member
I think you car is considered private property, after all they need a search warrant to legally look in concealed spaces, like your trunk or glove box.It says “budding or flowering plants” in public spaces...nothing about clones or seedlings in veg!
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Who's checking.....? Fucking LP's fought hard for that inclusion - too bad for them it isn't enforceable LOL!
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Me too! Medical is already exempt from that rule. We won the right to breed our own genetics, so I'm not worried there. I think the whole 'illicit cannabis' thing is only going to be used in dealing with organized crime and those in competition with the tax man. They don't have the manpower to check everybody's plants.
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
All your questions about legal recreational cannabis in N.L. answered
What you can, and can't, do when it comes to cannabis as of Oct. 17
CBC News · Posted: Oct 15, 2018 1:11 PM NT | Last Updated: October 15
As of Wednesday, you can legally roll a joint — but not just anywhere. (Juan Mabromata/AFP/Getty Images)
On Wednesday, Canadians enter the era of legalized marijuana. But that isn't licence to light up just anywhere. Many of the laws around its use vary from province to province.
Shopping around
Where can I buy it?
There will be 22 retail stores ready to sell marijuana Oct. 17.
The stores are run privately — for example, 10 of them will be run by Loblaw, which operates under the Dominion banner in Newfoundland and Labrador — but their products are controlled and regulated by the NLC.
On Oct. 12, the Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corporation released a comprehensive list of the retail outlets expected to open as of legalization, provided they pass final approval. But more stores are in the works: for example, Canopy Growth's Happy Valley-Goose Bay Tweed store plans to open mid-December.
The NLC will also be selling it online.
You need to be 19 in order to buy, consume or possess any cannabis product.
When can I buy it?
Sooner than you might realize. The NLC has set operating hours for all stores, ruling that retailers can sell between the hours of 9 a.m. and 2 a.m., seven days a week. Stores can pick what hours they want to be open, as long as it's within those confines.
Several stores are taking advantage of that ruling to open as of 12:01 a.m. on Oct. 17, although they will have to close again by 2 a.m.
What products will I be able to buy?
Cannabis will be sold in dried flower, oil, and capsule form, in three basic grades: economy, midstream and premium. The exact products available will depend on what store you go to.
Tweed, the retail arm of Ontario-based Canopy Growth, advertises various strains of cannabis on its website — with names ranging from Boaty McBoatface to Balmoral — that will be sold in the three different forms, but what exactly will be in its stores on Wednesday is still unknown.
What is exactly will be on marijuana store shelves in Newfoundland and Labrador will depend on what retailer you go to, but it will all be priced the same, according to the Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corporation. (David Zalubowski/Associated Press)
Ten retail outlets, like Tweed, will be standalone stores with displays of cannabis and its accessories. Other outlets will operate within larger retail stores, akin to smoke shops that keep products in locked, plain cabinets, inaccessible to minors.
Edible products, like pot brownies or gummies, will not be legal as of Oct. 17, and therefore not sold in stores. The federal government has pledged to legalize edibles within a year.
However, you are allowed to make and consume your own edibles.
How much will it cost?
The price per gram will be between $6 and $13.
Those prices are set by the NLC and will remain the same, whether you buy it in store or online.
How much can I buy?
You can buy up to 30 grams at a time.
Could stores run out of marijuana?
It's possible. The NLC expects demand to be high and availability of various products to be fairly limited at the beginning, a problem that's expected to be encountered across Canada.
Where is all this cannabis coming from?
The provincial government signed a deal back in 2017 with Canopy Growth to provide Newfoundland and Labrador with product and build a production plant.
That plant is currently under construction in St. John's and on track to open in 2019. In the meantime, Canopy is supplying the province with cannabis grown in Ontario.
But the Canopy deal has recently come under fire from the Opposition Progressive Conservatives. The deal was made without going through any public tendering or request for proposals, and as part of it Canopy won't have to pay up to $40 million in taxes.
The Liberals say that money will come back to the province via income tax in the jobs the plant will create, but the PCs say the province shouldn't have been so quick to offer a subsidy for such a potentially lucrative industry.
Here and Now
Legal Marijuana Explainer
00:00 02:23
Marijuana will be legal beginning October 17th. The details are a little more complicated. 2:23
Weed, in the wider world
Can I smoke cannabis outside like a cigarette?
If you think you can light up a joint on the sidewalk like a cigarette, think again. In Newfoundland and Labrador, cannabis will be allowed to be consumed only inside private dwellings, or in yards attached to those dwellings. Using marijuana in a public place is not allowed.
Medical marijuana users may continue to consume cannabis outdoors in public, in places where smoking and vaping are permitted.
Can I smoke in my car?
No, even if that car is parked. That rule also applies to medical marijuana users as well.
The only exception is if the vehicle is being used as a dwelling — like an RV —and that vehicle is parked and being used as a dwelling at the time. But if the RV is in a campground, it must abide by rules set by the campground's owner, who has the authority to allow or prohibit cannabis use on their property.
You won't be able to smoke a joint in many of the same places you can tobacco. (David Donnelly/CBC)
How much can I transport?
Thirty grams per person is the maximum amount allowed out in public.
In cars and other motorized vehicles, cannabis must be stored in a sealed container and placed somewhere that neither the driver nor any passengers can access it.
Remember, it's illegal to take marijuana with you across the border.
You can grow up to four plants at a time in your own house and keep as much of its harvest as you like. (CBC)
Cannabis at home
Can you smoke cannabis outside your house, like you can a cigarette?
Yes, but only if you're in your own yard, porch or outside property attached to your home.
Can a person use cannabis, for medical or recreational reasons, in a residence with children present?
Yes. While marijuana's effects are particularly harmful to children and youth and should be kept away from them at all times, the new legislation does not make it illegal for an adult to consume cannabis in the same private residence as children.
Health Canada also warns people not to smoke or vape marijuana around children.
The Cannabis Act includes new criminal offences in regard to giving or selling cannabis to youth that are accompanied by punishments of up to 14 years in jail.
How many plants can I grow at home?
Four.
How much cannabis am I allowed to have at home?
As much as you want. If you've got a great green thumb, you're in luck. The 30-gram limit only applies once you are outside a private dwelling.
Can a landlord say whether you can use cannabis in your apartment or not?
Yes. Landlords can decide to restrict the use and growth of cannabis in their rental units if they choose. The province's rental agreement form has already been amended to include that as an option, similar to tobacco.
The landlord can also dictate what's allowed in the common areas of rental buildings, which includes its external property. So while you may be able to step onto the porch of a non-smoking apartment to have a cigarette, you might not be able to do the same with a joint. You'll have to check with your landlord.
But I still have more questions!
We're sure you do. The province has a website set up to answer some of them, and the federal government has one here.
What you can, and can't, do when it comes to cannabis as of Oct. 17
CBC News · Posted: Oct 15, 2018 1:11 PM NT | Last Updated: October 15
On Wednesday, Canadians enter the era of legalized marijuana. But that isn't licence to light up just anywhere. Many of the laws around its use vary from province to province.
- Explaining the rules for cannabis, one week from legalization
- How will Canadians buy pot? It depends where they live
Shopping around
Where can I buy it?
There will be 22 retail stores ready to sell marijuana Oct. 17.
The stores are run privately — for example, 10 of them will be run by Loblaw, which operates under the Dominion banner in Newfoundland and Labrador — but their products are controlled and regulated by the NLC.
On Oct. 12, the Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corporation released a comprehensive list of the retail outlets expected to open as of legalization, provided they pass final approval. But more stores are in the works: for example, Canopy Growth's Happy Valley-Goose Bay Tweed store plans to open mid-December.
The NLC will also be selling it online.
You need to be 19 in order to buy, consume or possess any cannabis product.
When can I buy it?
Sooner than you might realize. The NLC has set operating hours for all stores, ruling that retailers can sell between the hours of 9 a.m. and 2 a.m., seven days a week. Stores can pick what hours they want to be open, as long as it's within those confines.
Several stores are taking advantage of that ruling to open as of 12:01 a.m. on Oct. 17, although they will have to close again by 2 a.m.
What products will I be able to buy?
Cannabis will be sold in dried flower, oil, and capsule form, in three basic grades: economy, midstream and premium. The exact products available will depend on what store you go to.
Tweed, the retail arm of Ontario-based Canopy Growth, advertises various strains of cannabis on its website — with names ranging from Boaty McBoatface to Balmoral — that will be sold in the three different forms, but what exactly will be in its stores on Wednesday is still unknown.
Ten retail outlets, like Tweed, will be standalone stores with displays of cannabis and its accessories. Other outlets will operate within larger retail stores, akin to smoke shops that keep products in locked, plain cabinets, inaccessible to minors.
Edible products, like pot brownies or gummies, will not be legal as of Oct. 17, and therefore not sold in stores. The federal government has pledged to legalize edibles within a year.
However, you are allowed to make and consume your own edibles.
How much will it cost?
The price per gram will be between $6 and $13.
Those prices are set by the NLC and will remain the same, whether you buy it in store or online.
How much can I buy?
You can buy up to 30 grams at a time.
Could stores run out of marijuana?
It's possible. The NLC expects demand to be high and availability of various products to be fairly limited at the beginning, a problem that's expected to be encountered across Canada.
Where is all this cannabis coming from?
The provincial government signed a deal back in 2017 with Canopy Growth to provide Newfoundland and Labrador with product and build a production plant.
That plant is currently under construction in St. John's and on track to open in 2019. In the meantime, Canopy is supplying the province with cannabis grown in Ontario.
But the Canopy deal has recently come under fire from the Opposition Progressive Conservatives. The deal was made without going through any public tendering or request for proposals, and as part of it Canopy won't have to pay up to $40 million in taxes.
The Liberals say that money will come back to the province via income tax in the jobs the plant will create, but the PCs say the province shouldn't have been so quick to offer a subsidy for such a potentially lucrative industry.
Here and Now
Legal Marijuana Explainer
00:00 02:23
Marijuana will be legal beginning October 17th. The details are a little more complicated. 2:23
Weed, in the wider world
Can I smoke cannabis outside like a cigarette?
If you think you can light up a joint on the sidewalk like a cigarette, think again. In Newfoundland and Labrador, cannabis will be allowed to be consumed only inside private dwellings, or in yards attached to those dwellings. Using marijuana in a public place is not allowed.
Medical marijuana users may continue to consume cannabis outdoors in public, in places where smoking and vaping are permitted.
Can I smoke in my car?
No, even if that car is parked. That rule also applies to medical marijuana users as well.
The only exception is if the vehicle is being used as a dwelling — like an RV —and that vehicle is parked and being used as a dwelling at the time. But if the RV is in a campground, it must abide by rules set by the campground's owner, who has the authority to allow or prohibit cannabis use on their property.
How much can I transport?
Thirty grams per person is the maximum amount allowed out in public.
In cars and other motorized vehicles, cannabis must be stored in a sealed container and placed somewhere that neither the driver nor any passengers can access it.
Remember, it's illegal to take marijuana with you across the border.
Cannabis at home
Can you smoke cannabis outside your house, like you can a cigarette?
Yes, but only if you're in your own yard, porch or outside property attached to your home.
Can a person use cannabis, for medical or recreational reasons, in a residence with children present?
Yes. While marijuana's effects are particularly harmful to children and youth and should be kept away from them at all times, the new legislation does not make it illegal for an adult to consume cannabis in the same private residence as children.
Health Canada also warns people not to smoke or vape marijuana around children.
The Cannabis Act includes new criminal offences in regard to giving or selling cannabis to youth that are accompanied by punishments of up to 14 years in jail.
How many plants can I grow at home?
Four.
How much cannabis am I allowed to have at home?
As much as you want. If you've got a great green thumb, you're in luck. The 30-gram limit only applies once you are outside a private dwelling.
Can a landlord say whether you can use cannabis in your apartment or not?
Yes. Landlords can decide to restrict the use and growth of cannabis in their rental units if they choose. The province's rental agreement form has already been amended to include that as an option, similar to tobacco.
The landlord can also dictate what's allowed in the common areas of rental buildings, which includes its external property. So while you may be able to step onto the porch of a non-smoking apartment to have a cigarette, you might not be able to do the same with a joint. You'll have to check with your landlord.
But I still have more questions!
We're sure you do. The province has a website set up to answer some of them, and the federal government has one here.
MedicatedHiker
Well-Known Member
Vege a big mofo.
Nah, that's just nonsense to scare people. We can grow cannabis and gift the seeds. And breeders will keep on selling seeds.