Do the bottom leaves of the plant die off naturally?

[StuffedOrange]

Hello everyone,
One of my plants if 20 days old and its lower 2 bottom sets of leaves are dying on their own. Is this natural or is there something wrong. The way they are dying is that they are showing symptoms similar to fungus gnat symptoms or over watering symptoms. This is only happening to the first 2 sets of leaves and the rest of the leaves are not affected and they are not drooping.

The leaves basically get a brownish greenish mark on them that causes a part of the leave to bend or curl in a weird random way. After that mark appears, the leaves start turning yellow, and the original mark becomes brown. Those leaves feel really dry and is they are crispy. they don't crumble though.

Thanks everyone!

 

[StuffedOrange]

The first time I spotted it on the lower sets of leaves of the plant, the soil was near completely dry so I don't think it has to do with over watering. What could be the issue if it is not natural?

 

[StuffedOrange]

I have also used neem oil and placed sticky traps to see if there are any pests.

 

[Lordhooha]

Mine don’t. Got pictures?

 

[Budzbuddha]

Bikini pics

 

[SSGrower]

The first time I spotted it on the lower sets of leaves of the plant, the soil was near completely dry so I don't think it has to do with over watering. What could be the issue if it is not natural?

Low N or overwater?
Pics please, no not normal after 20 days.

Soil ammendments and ferts too.

 

[StuffedOrange]

Here is a picture. It is getting worse, it is moving up into the upper leaves now. what can I do to stop it

 

[StuffedOrange]

This plant was grown in something similar to miracle grow, and today I completely transplanted all my plants into a new medium . I moved them into coco and perlite, biobizz bio grow, 1.5 ml per liter.

 

[StuffedOrange]

As you can see above in the picture^^

 

[StuffedOrange]

Should I also remove all the affected leaves? or will that make things worse.

 

[SSGrower]

Should I also remove all the affected leaves? or will that make things worse.

No dont remove, but I dont know what you got going on, transplanting likely did not help your situation. Dont buy into the mj specific grow options unless its megacrop, thats a good cheap all around fert imo, its just a plant. Let it do its thing but coco and perilite will need some ferts.

 

[StuffedOrange]

yes I stated above that I'm no longer using pre mixed soils, and went today to a hydrogrowshop and got some liquid fertilizers by BIOBIZZ. I have applied 1.5ml per liter of BIO grow with an npk of 4-3-6

 

[StuffedOrange]

I was doing a daily time lapse of this plant, and now I gave up on the timelapse due to what occurred

 

[Budzbuddha]

Grab a bag of decent potting soil ... ( promix / fox Farm / happy frog / black gold / dr. Earth ) etc.
No MG ... a veg garden mix then do a simple transplant .

Most good bagged will carry the plant all by itself on water for weeks .
This way plant will not be thrown by either too much feed or some other medium issue.
Some coco NEEDS to be rinsed before use or even precharged with some light feed.
Simple bagged soil eliminates most problems from the start with regular watering only.

Leave the fans as is ... you can compound stress be ripping them off as it is ALREADY looking to repair itself then you add to it by ripping leaves. They will become older leaves anyways when plant grows out.

 

[SSGrower]

yes I stated above that I'm no longer using pre mixed soils, and went today to a hydrogrowshop and got some liquid fertilizers by BIOBIZZ. I have applied 1.5ml per liter of BIO grow with an npk of 4-3-6

Sorry I think you misunderstood, you can grow mj in mirical grow or any other bagged soil, the price markup at your hydro store is ridiculous, im a cheap bastard, make your own compost, ewc, fpe, that kind of shit.

Budzbuddah is right imo about the other bagged options being better tha mg.

 

[Dynamo626]

Here is a picture. It is getting worse, it is moving up into the upper leaves now. what can I do to stop it

Looks like nute burn on the leaf tips, heat stress is the curled up saw tips. Carefull with over watering. Alot of potting soils retain water. Just becauce the top is dry dosnt mean its time to water. Go by pot weight

 

[StuffedOrange]

this plant is far away from the light for there to be any heat stress issues, it is the only plant that is facing this, I have 6 plants. One completed its cycle and is almost ready for harvest guys. The problem is not with the soil I use(New soil is coco that is from a coco brick), or the fertilizers I'm using.. I think I found the problem, when I transplanted the plant, I noticed it was very hard for me to remove the soil from the plant as it was very compacted within the roots. This tells me the plant was not getting any oxygen whatsoever. There were minimal amounts of perlite in that soil as well. It was not even perlite it was some sort of styrofoam that would pop up out of nowhere after a few waterings. And I'm 100% sure that it is not nutrient burn. None of my plants ever had nutrient burn.

 

[StuffedOrange]

I'm going to stick with the changes I have done today, and I will keep you guys updated, I think the problem really was over watering. I think that the compacted soil held tons of moisture that caused this. Now I will see what the new transplant for the plant will do. Thanks everyone!

 

[StuffedOrange]

And yes it is very expensive for me to get growing materials here in Israel. If you would like to take a look at the shop I got all my new supplies from here it is. hydroshop .co.il

 

[StuffedOrange]

The roots had no hairs on them when I transplanted btw, which tells me that the roots were very unhealthy, and I'm guessing had no oxygen due to how compact the potting soil was.