Everlight 62's ... Anyone have any info?

[PSUAGRO.]

Yeah, I'm going to side with tek and gg on this one Sunni.

This place WAS special because we could always question any sponsor/ advertiser on dubious claims. Not getting what you paid for was the other forums motto, now were fundamentally the same shit! Sad

Might as well pick up Mars hydro junk, who's to question its place in the modern grow room.



What changed? Old penguin never gave a fuck in the past...

 

[sunni]

Yeah, I'm going to side with tek and gg on this one Sunni.

This place WAS special because we could always question any sponsor/ advertiser on dubious claims. Not getting what you paid for was the other forums motto, now where fundamentally the same shit! Sad

Might as well pick up Mars hydro junk, who's to question its place in the modern grow room.



What changed? Old penguin never gave a fuck in the past...

Nothing changed
But if you act rude you’re going to be removed
And he was rude he didn’t ask nicely he badgered and argued the entire time

And correction I never banned him from the thread another staff memeber did
So it’s obvious to me at least it’s not just me who thought he was going against tos

 

[sunni]

A lot of people cared what he was asking He asked very nicely the first few times. And continued too, even when the advertiser claimed super hard to have so much of the testing he was asking for but wouldn’t give it, cause it was a bluff. A bluff that the dude called and you are letting the advertiser bluff instead of someone have the free speech to ask for documentation of outlandish claims from them.
He used nothing but facts and honest request to back the advertiser into the position of having to lie, or give the real data. But then you came and banned his free speech and honest inquiries for verifiable data. Data that again, the advertiser has been claiming hard to have,
Plain old censorship of free speech and truth in favor of advertiser money regardless.

I never banned him from the thread another staff memeber did so slight correction there

Also I have 0 to do with advertisers like literally 0 I see no money and have nothing to do with money transactions

He didn’t ask nicely though he was argumentative which is grounds for removal

And no one from amare complained it was all other users and the person in question himself complaining

 

[sunni]

You can question people all you like

But do so respectfully

What is so complicated about that ?

 

[sunni]

again i never censored anything i wasnt the one who banned him from posting it was another staff member,
I also never wrote any of the policies.

he also has posted several other replies in that thread you just cherry picked the nicest ones for the sake of your argument

we can go at this back and forth all day long but really its not going to get you anywhere, as I was never the staff member involved in any of those decisions you are claiming I did

 

[Greengenes707]

again i never censored anything i wasnt the one who banned him from posting it was another staff member,
I also never wrote any of the policies.

he also has posted several other replies in that thread you just cherry picked the nicest ones for the sake of your argument

we can go at this back and forth all day long but really its not going to get you anywhere, as I was never the staff member involved in any of those decisions you are claiming I did

I picked them all in a row from one page...go check.
You can undo it. You can't backpeddle out of this one. You are supporting the ban of someones free speech.

 

[sunni]

I picked them all in a row from one page...go check.

right he had several other replies and one you can't see calling people dickheads directly. that was his own only deleted "censored" post.

 

[Greengenes707]

right he had several other replies and one you can't see calling people dickheads directly. that was his own only deleted "censored" post.

Not on that page or before any of those responses. Dudette...I gave you the quotes to support. And now your "saying", with ZERO SUPPORT, something that not true to back out. Why are you lying to me about the page and response I just quoted directly.

Those were his first responses.

 

[sunni]

Not on that page or before any of those responses. Dudette...I gave you the quotes to support. And now your "saying" something that not true to back out. Why are you lying to me about the page and response I just quoted directly.

Im not lying about anything those werent his only posts, he had several others which continued a snowball of arguments

Im not saying anything either than, I didnt ban him, I didnt censor him, but his posts were not just happy go lucky nice nice like you are claiming either.

You can continue to argue with me all day long you will get nowhere, you cannot win this, nothign you do will change any outcome

 

[neosapien]

I tested it myself and got 1.21 Jigawatts.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

I tested it myself and got 1.21 Jigawatts.

I use that flux capacitor you gave me.

 

[RainDan]

Our experience, and other manufacturers I've spoken with, is that high CRI results in lower efficiency. And for what it's worth, 2.7 µmol/J is quite difficult to achieve in the best of circumstances. The advertiser in question should have to produce credible data to support such claims.

 

[hybridway2]

I picked them all in a row from one page...go check.
You can undo it. You can't backpeddle out of this one. You are supporting the ban of someones free speech.

Oh boy, dont get me started on you the biggest lying HYPOCRITE of them all. Who i remember had all my factual posts deleted supporting enhanced spectrum while you said it was a complete waste. Now a few yrs later here you are fi ally catching on. You only say what supports whatever your selling that day.
Put your skinny Strips against these Hater!!!...
Dont be scared.
You ARE the KING OF EDITTING FREE SPEECH & FACTS.
LMFAO! The Ordacity .

 

[Greengenes707]

Our experience, and other manufacturers I've spoken with, is that high CRI results in lower efficiency. And for what it's worth, 2.7 µmol/J is quite difficult to achieve in the best of circumstances. The advertiser in question should have to produce credible data to support such claims.

Thank you for adding your information and experience Dan. That is my experience too on it, and most I have conversed with in the industry.
Just doesn't seem fair when most play by the general rules of truthful and honest documentation. Advertiser or not, but would think with other advertisers providing the documentation and honesty, that the ones that don't play truthfully should not be supported or glorified. Let alone given an unchallengeable platform to do so.

 

[hybridway2]

Thank you for adding your information and experience Dan. That is my experience too on it, and most I have conversed with in the industry.
Just doesn't seem fair when most play by the general rules of truthful and honest documentation. Advertiser or not, but would think with other advertisers providing the documentation and honesty, that the ones that don't play truthfully should not be supported or glorified. Let alone given an unchallengeable platform to do so.

Dude. You already know. 301b's easily achieve 2.5. Olson squares easily hit 3. The other monos besides 660 (squares), such as 630, 470 & 730 are driven to achieve the 2.2-2.6 range. It all balances out to 2.7 @ 660w . Now, granted I've yet to find out if that board efficiency like all the other companies post or if its system efficiency which is what i believe should be the industy standard.
Im busy. Ttyl!
EDIT ADD:
Amare has been 95 cri since day one. Shit aint that hard @RainDan .
You & dude from BC Blondes should already know this.
I expect it from him but you?
I am NOT an advert people. Gg is full of shit as usual.
Though i do plan on producing data ASAP as i e stated several times.

 

[hybridway2]

It seems you can be blocked from commenting on the lies of a sponsor company.

Why are they lies? Its not even on a website yet hows it gonna have posted data sheets? You are relentless? Wheres Gavitas led or Fluences data sheets? Theyre on their websites? NO! while Amare hasn't even finished the final product. Fortunately the pre-production model thats selling like crazy is still better then whats available anywhere from what im seeing.
Just look at the build & components & you know youre getting allot more for your money then say a PLC light with a shady rumor starting liar as the owner .

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

You can question people all you like

But do so respectfully

What is so complicated about that ?

I agree that how you go about things matters, but it seems TEK was singled out.

I've seen way worse comments being un-moderated, or left alone, than what is being debated here and now.

The thread starter went at TEK, and was just as rude, but that's ok?

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

again i never censored anything i wasnt the one who banned him from posting it was another staff member,
I also never wrote any of the policies.

You guys need to have a staff meeting, because so far the only ones that's been offended by TEK's comments are you guys. Everyone else is wanting them, and left un-moderated.

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

Why are they lies? Its not even on a website yet hows it gonna have posted data sheets? You are relentless? Wheres Gavitas led or Fluences data sheets? Theyre on the site while Amare hasn't even finished the final product. Fortunately the pre-production model thats selling like crazy is still better then whats available anywhere from what im seeing.
Just look at the build & components & you know youre getting allot more for your money then say a PLC light with a shady rumor starting liar as the owner .

I've had interactions with you before, and they been good, I generally like reading your posts, but think its crazy they tried to ban TEK, for asking questions, you did go at him, and he reciprocated. I just wanted to let you know where I stood as I don't want it to seem I'm piling on but also think its a little over the top that he was banned.

That's prolly all I'm going to try to give this thought too. I don't agree with deleting comments but I value respectful interactions as well. In this instance it seems it wasn't too bad honestly, and went both ways but only one had consequences from it.

 

[hybridway2]

I've had interactions with you before, and they been good, I generally like reading your posts, but think its crazy they tried to ban TEK, for asking questions, you did go at him, and he reciprocated. I just wanted to let you know where I stood as I don't want it to seem I'm piling on but also think its a little over the top that he was banned.

That's prolly all I'm going to try to give this thought too. I don't agree with deleting comments but I value respectful interactions as well. In this instance it seems it wasn't too bad honestly, and went both ways but only one had consequences from it.

Yeah, that's foul cuz nobody even checked with me. I mean don't get me wrong, i appreciate the mods trying to keep it clean but also dont agree with censoring his comments or kicking him off my thread w/o asking me. That there used to go up my ass sideways when GG would have my comments deleted. They were generally good info posts related to my personal experience.
Also guys, there's 2 sides to every story. The way Teknik would be so obvious that he was trolling & hating is prob what got him. He would keep repeating the same BS after i clearly answered his questions. Almost like he didnt read my responses but i know he did. Yes its annoying but any Light Fixture that's the current "Whale" & at the very top of the food chain (or will be) is subject to scrutiny by the parasitic plankton.
As you can see from Mr.Deceiptful there who selected chosen posts to make his point stronger, just like he always has. Hes talking about untrustworthiness pertaining to Amare. Lol! Thats Actually Hilarious seeing how they have an untarnished track record & have never falsified info. EVER!!!!
That guys something else.
I have answers to manyof Tekniks questions. Just wasn't feeding the troll to much of the good food. Guys who act like that can earn their scraps by reading normal "Growers" posts.
You all are welcome to ask me whatever on my thread. Dont be an asshole & the mods wont fxck with u is all i can say.
Basically dont act like GG & youll be awight it appears seeing how hes the poster boy for Ignoramuses.