Horseshit, Vi. Now, I'm miffed at you! You never really commented on all that effort I put into my posts way back there on the MYTH of the liberal media.
The View? Phooey. I've seen it, not watched it, about, umm, twice? WTF cares about that dumb show? Not me.
The media are not liberal, and if you dare to say otherwise, then it's time to go back to that post that I made and start refuting my contentions!
Until you do that, then nothing you have to say about our media being so liberal has any weight whatsoever with me.
Okay?
She should be talking to the people. She's being shielded because she has no substance, nothing to offer, and probably not much in the way of one-on-one discussion. She's not capable, and the idea of her being president of this mess is frightening.
Come on, just how carefully did they "vet" her if her daughter's boyfriend had "I'm a fucking redneck!" on his My Space page, and that was not removed until after the news of the girl's pregnancy came out? They did not do their homework with her, and now, with a complacent press, they don't even have to address this mess.
Brutal, I'll have to get back to you. I'm too tired for this stuff tonight and you've brought up too many different issues.
Doesn't anyone else think it would be a good idea to split this thread into different ones--one for health care, one for economy, one for Ms. Palin, lmao, etc? This thread goes all over the place.
Then again, it is kind of fun; sort of like walking into different rooms of a large home where there's a good sized party taking place. You just never know what folks will be chattering about in any given room?
Like, uh, Tips? Lovely avatar today. You look more tired than I feel. Are you feeling alright? What time are we all going to bed tonight?
Oh, hey Vi? Regarding your question about the gov't providing food, etc? That's kind of a good question. You did have me stumped for a moment. Except that with health care reform we are not talking about the government GIVING it away. We're already spending hugely on health care, not covering everyone, and the whole system is full of holes and disparities. So while it is a good point to bring up, it doesn't work as an analogy.
I think something that doesn't get mentioned enough is that if we switch health care/insurance systems to something like they have in Germany, or whatever, we'll get it back in other ways. Employers will have more money to pay employees as salaries, if they're not having to pay for their employees' insurance. Or . . . this ought to please all you corporatists out there . . . more profit for the employers. Whatever the case, we're talking about rearranging the way we pay for insurance and care. It's not like a family like mine, paying out about $700 a month for mediocre health insurance is going to be paying that out, while at the same time, paying out for "free" health care to all those lazy shit heads on the bottom of the rung who just want free this, free that. See what I mean?
Tips, I'm a little concerned about your new avatar. Are you feeling okay? Let's just call it an evening and go to bed, okay?
what about the other processes like checks and balances! 
