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davisgirl

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Hi! I’m new here and stumbled on your journal. Love what you have going on! Bumping up the nutes was a good move. But what happened with the physan 20? Curious, because I use the stuff to clean my buckets, and the one time I used it in an active res — well, the plant looked like that!
 

newbie2323

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Hi! I’m new here and stumbled on your journal. Love what you have going on! Bumping up the nutes was a good move. But what happened with the physan 20? Curious, because I use the stuff to clean my buckets, and the one time I used it in an active res — well, the plant looked like that!
Yeah, I didn't rinse everything off well enough after cleaning it with the physan.
 

davisgirl

Member
Yeah, I didn't rinse everything off well enough after cleaning it with the physan.
Ok I get that. It’s a bit frustrating though because they recommend you soak the roots in it if there is an issue. Sucks that the cure can be so damaging.

I’ve tried to keep a grow from a roommate before, super dicey and failed. I’d start working on how to frame it when she finds out. Plenty of valid reasons to be growing pot. Destroy those receipts they can only be a liability at this point. Under the house though — that’s genius.
 

newbie2323

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Ugh. Classic case of root rot has set in. I added a cup of H2O2 and also bought an Ice Probe, some Hydroguard and sealed up a few small light leaks in the res. Res temp has been fluctuating between 70-73. I figured that was cool enough, but apparantly I was mistaken.

New seedlings ready to go in case this doesn't end well. :)
 

davisgirl

Member
Have you got the Hydroguard? I’d prepare a fresh reservoir, without the h202, and just bare bottom nutrients — your standard calmag grow bloom mix and omit any extra fancies you like to add. Add Hydroguard. And wait. In my experience, h202 and physan20 is good for a quick rinse but then seems to cause it’s own problems, you need to get them out of there.

If 70-73 is your normal water temp—it is mine too — I’ve had good luck with Heisenberg tea. It’s a bit of a pita but cheaper than Hydroguard in the long run. And, it seems to maybe have a voodoo effect on nutrient uptake and the plants seem to do a lot better with the same or less nutrients than usual. I’m still a noob but I’ve really been through it the past year. The Heisenberg tea thrives in slightly warmer temps and crowds out the bad microbes with excellent ones. If you don’t mind having a gallon of microbe solution in your fridge going forward, it’s the way to go.
 

newbie2323

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Awesome. Thanks for the input. I'll flush and clean tonight, and add just hydroguard and minimal nutes.

The roots are brown, but dont appear to be damaged. Nothing dead or separated. I may try to rinse them off with some fresh PH'd water in between.

I'd also try a little physan beforehand, but i think this poor plant has had enough of that shit. :)
 

Apalchen

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Wow that sounds like a ton of work you did to get that set up like that under the house. I have had stoner ideas about it back in the day but never followed thru. My favorite additives for DWC are a cap full of sm 90 and hygrozyme. I never had root issues while running that combo.
 

newbie2323

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Wow that sounds like a ton of work you did to get that set up like that under the house. I have had stoner ideas about it back in the day but never followed thru. My favorite additives for DWC are a cap full of sm 90 and hygrozyme. I never had root issues while running that combo.
I've probably spent 12 hours on it. 3 of which were used up digging a 3x3x2 foot hole in hard clay with a tiny shovel. Had to go 2 feet down to get enough clearance for a 48 inch high tent and an 18 inch deep res which is buried under the tent to keep it cool and provide more vertical grow space. I wouldn't call it work though. I love this shit. :)

Thanks for the rec on the additives.

The roots are looking better already, ph has stabilized and the plant is starting to grow again. Hardy little bastards these plants are!

I got the Ice Probe today but couldn't install it yet since the wife didn't leave the house long enough for me to sneak down there and set it up. I plugged it in for a minute to test and it gets hella cold! Very well made little device for $100.

On another note, the brass solenoid in my automatic PH Down drip line died. It didn't like the acid. I ordered an acid proof 12v peristaltic pump to replace it. I'll be pre diluting the PH down since the minimum flow rate is way too fast for straight acid.

Another neat thing I did was splice in a 4 inch duct to a nearby AC duct and route it into the tent. An intake fan comes on when the lights switch on, blowing in cool, dry air with lots of CO2. (800 - 1000 ppm). Droped temps and RH a bit and the higher CO2 should let me run hotter anyway. Mid day temps outside have been in the high 90s and the temps in the tent in the low 80s.

I'll post another update once I get the Ice Probe in the res.

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Here's a view from the wide angle IP camera...

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newbie2323

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Leaving for two full weeks tomorrow morning. I guess this will be the first real test of the automation stuff I've set up. Temp, RH, light, PH and water level are all running on auto pilot.

The one thing I haven't done yet is remote nutrient control. Any suggestions on what ppm to target? It's currently at 330. Low since the plant is recovering from root rot followed by physan 20 burn.

Don't want to go to high and burn it but also don't want to go so low that all the nutes are used up 10 days from now.

Speaking of root rot, the hyrogaurd is definitely helping. New roots are starting to grow. I also got the res temp down below 70 with the Ice Probe, just barely though. I'll be insulating the external res when I get back in two weeks. I expect the temp will come down to 65.

Growth really picked back up in the last 24 hours. Hopefully I'll have a bush and be ready to switch to flower when I get back.

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newbie2323

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Well, 10 days running on autopilot and she's still alive. PH is rising slowly to 6.2 then dropping down to 5.8 every 5 days thanks to the dosing pump and PH controller. Outdoor temps have been near 100 but the res temp is holding steady around 72. Air temp in the tent is between 78 and 85. A little high, especially since CO2 has dropped from 900 to 550 ppm with nobody around breathing it out.

Growth has really picked up the last two or three days. At this rate I'll be a little late applying the next step in the manifolding process. But I'm in no hurry. I'm actually just happy it's still alive.

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rickybobby2510

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this is fucking awesome, keep up the updates man, -bump.
hope the misso doesnt think you cheating because your sneaking off to the toilet to check on the lovely little lady you got growing there haha :D
 

xin

Active Member
It wont let me post links yet but im going to try a peltier cooler. search ebay for "DIY Cool Kits Thermoelectric Peltier Water Cooling Fan + TEC1-12706 Cooler DJ" its 15$ so 6.6 times cheaper so it might work with a few of them to hit your target temp with the resovior pumping into itself to mix then toggle a pump and the peltier element on then as the resovior hits target pump it out to the next tank / the plant. Keep those updates coming enjoying the read.
 

newbie2323

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hope the misso doesnt think you cheating because your sneaking off to the toilet to check on the lovely little lady you got growing there haha :D
Yeah, every time she leaves I shoot under the house to get some work done. :)

Here's a pic from this morning. I finished up the manifold on Monday and the 8 growth tips are exploding.

The plant started showing signs of phosphorus deficiency (pink stems, bluish leaves with brown spots on the oldest growth) so I added 2ml per gallon of extra GH bloom and it appears to be recovering.

I'm way overdue for a nute flush. Hopefully I can get the wife out of the house for an hour today and get it done. :)

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newbie2323

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Bushing up nicely. I added 30ml of hydroguard with the nute flush two days ago. The res temp is fluctuating between 67 and 71. To get it a few degrees cooler I'm replacing the 15 gallon tote with an igloo cooler for the external res. Other than that, just letting it grow before switching to flower. :)

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