I am scared of my crop

ttystikk

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Yeah I'm on the fence about that too... Any recommendations? I'm in an odd shape - like around 4.5x2.5 with lots of height....
First, nail down what the actual Watts from the wall draw is for each of your existing LED lights. The blurple ones love to advertise crazy numbers but those are worthless. On those lights, figure that they'll replace about 1.3 Watts of HID lighting.

Then surf around this site and ask about HLG quantum boards or Timber growlights. Both companies make high quality lights that will fill smaller spaces. These lights will replace 1.8 Watts of HID for every Watt of draw, because they're more efficient.
 

althor

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i found good ones for 150 or less. will filter roadkill for about a year. Nothing wrong with mixing lights , makes um better.
They aint going no 5 weeks....folks on this forum just dont want you pickin shit i guess? The most done photo on this site will yeild you a :"two more weeks at least" "id go 4 weeks"
Thats just rediculas . "DONE" is an opinion ....."MATURE" is a fact...
I always pick mine with foggy trics. amber is too mature for my liking and my genetics.
Yours appears to be very close .... i could see two weeks but i highly doubt youll go more then that.
i looked again. no they dont look as close as i thought but i still say two weeks ish.
Just to make this post a bit more clear.....

No way to look at a picture and be able to tell someone how much time they have left. It just doesn't work that way...

so... about 2 more weeks.
 

althor

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Dang really? I've been running HPS next to LEDs for a while now wondering if this was a bad idea. What do you mean by leaf temp issues exactly? I've not seen any major issues or anything, but I've been looking to get rid of the LEDs anyway and upgrade to just two brighter HPS...
I use both HID and QBs. My HID outperforms my QBs without question. Yes, I might pay more for the HID, but I have a job, so who cares?

At the same time, if one of my HIDs goes out, I wouldn't replace it with another HID. I would replace it with a QB. Just out of convenience.
 

althor

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Dang really? I've been running HPS next to LEDs for a while now wondering if this was a bad idea. What do you mean by leaf temp issues exactly? I've not seen any major issues or anything, but I've been looking to get rid of the LEDs anyway and upgrade to just two brighter HPS...
Ideal temp growing under HID is said to be 78 degrees.
Ideal temp growing under LED is mid 80s.

That is where you run into an issue at.
 

Lucky Luke

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Weak? I chose the "weak" version to get more spread!
240 x 4 = 960 LED + 660 HPS = 1620 watts in a 1.2 x 2.4m tent I think that's pretty OP

I'll create a full length grow journal for you all upon completion
❤☘
yep, weak. What are they Mars or Viper spectra type things? How many of those watts are the fans sucking for eg. How come they need those fans is it because they convert to many Watts to heat and not light?
Lighting plays a huge part in finishing times.

Anyways, nice lookin grow so far and GL with the rest of the grow.
 

PadawanWarrior

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yep, weak. What are they Mars or Viper spectra type things? How many of those watts are the fans sucking for eg. How come they need those fans is it because they convert to many Watts to heat and not light?
Lighting plays a huge part in finishing times.

Anyways, nice lookin grow so far and GL with the rest of the grow.
I would check out HLG, like ttystikk says. Or Timber.
 

Father Ramirez

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Like I said before, you can post a pic of buds the size of your head, pistils 100% brown and receded, 100% amber trichs, and at least one guy will say "At least a week, probably two".
I don’t let my wife cook my eggs, because she doesn’t ever get them right.
@NeighboursFenceShifter
No one can look at a picture and accurately predict your harvest day, despite their growing skill, because your conditions are unique.
Get a digital microscope and match pics of the trichomes with harvest times. Let some plants go until 50% amber. Harvest some when only 10% have darkened. After only a few grows you’ll have a clear sense of what maturity level you prefer!
And here’s a twist! Clear and white trichs deliver a speedier but more short lived high than more mature trichs. I like to keep a combo on hand to suit my mood. It’s actually a more effective way to direct your high than the
Sativa = energetic & indica = narcotic line of reasoning.
Enjoy your harvest
 

piratebug

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Yeah I'm on the fence about that too... Any recommendations? I'm in an odd shape - like around 4.5x2.5 with lots of height....
Get 2 X KingBrite 320 3K with reds $116 each with heatsink, and then get 2 X hlg-320h-48ab drivers $64 each, then get 2 pots with connectors $3 each. Then run each of those 3 x 288 boards side by side @ 4 1/2 inches apart, dimmed to 200w each, (at the wall), and if you do everything else right you can easily pull 2.5g/w jarred with 6 plants vegged for 2 months, (3 weeks solo cup, 3 weeks 1 1/2 gallon pots, then 2 weeks before you flip in their final 4 gallon pots... I use to run one HLG 320 XL in that size space and I could never pull more than 19 zips out of there, then I added a pack of 144(s) using a 240 driver and I got close to 25 zips constantly. Then I put 2 x KingBrite 320 in that same room running at 400 watts, 200 watts each, that is 140 watts less than when I was running 1 x HLG 320 XL @ 310watts and 4 X 144 @ 220 watts, and now I constantly pull 30+ zips out of there without having to work them all that much, I top at the 5th node, then top those 2 side branches one more time at their second node, the first node I leave alone as they will become big tops, and I do the same thing going down the main stem for node 4, 3, and node 2, (that result in 8 - 10 tops for each of those 4 nodes), node 1 I leave alone, and that usually results in a nice even canopy with 30 to 40 top(s) on each plant.
 

tooktoomuch

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Seriously, this thing is either going to out grow me, roll up and smoke me like scary movie or eat me like little shop of horrors

I am growing seedsman jack herer with a couple of free cheese seeds in there and they're 4 ft tall without becoming flimsy

They were vegged for about 6 weeks and have just started week 7 of flower

The trichomes are almost all still clear there is barely any cloudy trichomes yet and I'm guessing that means I may have another week or two until ambers start to form

When I fitted the netting and ties (nothing had fallen but I did as a precaution) I had to do it one bit at a time because if the tent is open for more than 20 seconds it stinks out the whole block

My last grow was with these LEDs which was great I think it's due to the lenses on the LEDs (240watt) but with this grow also having my 660watt hps is ridiculous, i think this strain of jack from seedsman can take up to 9 weeks.. do not mix lights, I repeat. do not mix lights.

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I too, hate when I show off my awesome crop that is so awesome it might eat me.

P.S. Fuck you.

LOL..J.K.
 
For those who may be confused 240 is the actual wattage and no they are not putting out loads of heat stop assuming I'm cheap!:(

I'm looking in my tent now and thinking hmm need more but thinking a final 2 weeks more, if I dont see those clear trichomes cloud for 4 some of these main colas are going to be the size of my head

And I've got a big ass head
 

Magicole

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Yeah I'm on the fence about that too... Any recommendations? I'm in an odd shape - like around 4.5x2.5 with lots of height....
If your wanting LED’s I couldn’t really tell you, I’ve only used lager coverage LED’s. In that space I would run a single hood with 2 315w cmhs like this one...a single 315 would be good too, may not have the highest quality on the far sides though.

https://hydrobuilder.com/grow-light-bulbs-ballasts-hoods/lec-grow-lights-541/sun-system-630-watt-lec-grow-light-fixture-with-dual-lamps.html
 
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Lucky Luke

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For those who may be confused 240 is the actual wattage and no they are not putting out loads of heat stop assuming I'm cheap!:(

I'm looking in my tent now and thinking hmm need more but thinking a final 2 weeks more, if I dont see those clear trichomes cloud for 4 some of these main colas are going to be the size of my head

And I've got a big ass head
No its the actual wattage they claim it pulls from the wall. Part of that are fans.... U didn't mention their name.


Don't worry about time. Just grow them. If u have taken clones off them then you will have a rough and slightly faster flowering time for the next run.
If your already putting dates down to harvest it its going to be to early. Just let it her get to majority brown and starting to recede stigmas and then think about which day to harvest.
 
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