wow, WTF police?

[schuylaar]

What people have to understand is that to get a murder conviction requires intent. You can't just charge someone with murder because you want to punish them. If there is no intent, there is no murder charge.

People fuck up all the time and kill people. The only reason these cases get mentioned is because they involve a cop.

Regular citizens get the same treatment. If you shot someone you thought was breaking into your house only to find out it was your neighbor that happened to scare the shit out of you, is that murder?

No.

Is it manslaughter?

Definitely.

This case is really no different. It's tragic as hell. But what you can't prove is that this cop knew this woman, had some sort of grievance with her and decided to fake a call to the location to shoot her dead. THAT is what you'd have to prove to get a murder conviction, or something very close to it.

Over charging because of "wanting somebody to pay" is how so very many get off Scot free.

*'...only to find out it was your neighbor in his own home'.

sorry Mr. Criminology Teacher- but this one stinks like a week old dead fish..she really thought she'd get away with..thought she had a fool-proof, iron-clad alibi- wrong apartment

truth is anyone who's ever lived in an apartment knows what it's like to live under someone and Jean Boatham was her someone..he did something that bothered her and she took care of it the way she knew how..personally, I would've just moved to another unit but that would incur extra expense..no one ever mentioned what type of relationship they had as neighbors.

I typically won't live under someone anymore but one of my 'someones' who lived above me in the past was an overweight lady who did two things that drove me crazy..1) When she got up at 4AM it was like a ton of bricks hit the floor- literally..right above me I would wake up shell-shocked out of sound sleep 2) We lived lakefront which drew bugs to our door light and congregating on the front door. My neighbors idea to get the bugs off the front door was to hit it from the backside before going out- I always knew when she was leaving because she would pound the door 10 times before going outside. That kind of shit drives you nuts and there was no making a suggestion to her..my dogs would go nuts every time she did this.

 

[Warpedpassage]

While watching the video it occurred to me that this cop may have been drunk and saw the reflection of his own gun in the window and fired. I wonder how long they waited before getting a blood test this time around.

 

[Sir Napsalot]

Texas cops do seem to suck in a disproportionate manner

Is it their training, or is it something else- cultural perhaps

 

[blu3bird]

Texas cops do seem to suck in a disproportionate manner

Is it their training, or is it something else- cultural perhaps

In Yorkshire, UK it takes 2 years of training to become a cop

In Memphis, TN it takes 18 weeks of training to become a cop

I think typically though, in most other American cities, becoming a cop is 22 weeks of training. That's still not near enough training in my opinion.

 

[blu3bird]

*'...only to find out it was your neighbor in his own home'.

sorry Mr. Criminology Teacher- but this one stinks like a week old dead fish..she really thought she'd get away with..thought she had a fool-proof, iron-clad alibi- wrong apartment

truth is anyone who's ever lived in an apartment knows what it's like to live under someone and Jean Boatham was her someone..he did something that bothered her and she took care of it the way she knew how..personally, I would've just moved to another unit but that would incur extra expense..no one ever mentioned what type of relationship they had as neighbors.

I typically won't live under someone anymore but one of my 'someones' who lived above me in the past was an overweight lady who did two things that drove me crazy..1) When she got up at 4AM it was like a ton of bricks hit the floor- literally..right above me I would wake up shell-shocked out of sound sleep 2) We lived lakefront which drew bugs to our door light and congregating on the front door. My neighbors idea to get the bugs off the front door was to hit it from the backside before going out- I always knew when she was leaving because she would pound the door 10 times before going outside. That kind of shit drives you nuts and there was no making a suggestion to her..my dogs would go nuts every time she did this.

My neighbor across the road has an old early 80's Chevy Silverado that he drives as his winter beater, well it's getting that time of year up here in Michigan and it seems like he got that truck out of the barn early this year.

I always know when he leaves for work in the morning. Like clockwork, at 435am he revs that old piece of shit truck 5 times before he leaves. It doesn't wake me up, I'm already up for work, but I hear that loud piece of shit truck every morning M-F lol.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

they have to start doing some more rigorous mental testing before they give cops guns....jesus christ, how in the fucking world can you justify yelling "freeze" then immediately shooting? you gotta give em at least a couple of seconds to hear you and comply, or not...damn....

question is would you want to be a cop? I certainly would not. But someone has to do it.

They have to deal with the scum of the earth every day, does it effect them mentally, yes of course it does.

 

[blu3bird]

question is would you want to be a cop? I certainly would not. But someone has to do it.

They have to deal with the scum of the earth every day, does it effect them mentally, yes of course it does.

They shouldn't be a cop if they're not mentally fit to handle the stress of that job. Those mentally unfit cops need to be removed.
I'm not saying being a cop is an easy job by any stretch, but if you're making poor decisions based on emotions or fear, then clearly being a cop in not a job they should have.

I drive a semi truck everyday and I have to deal with the shittiest, rudest and dumbest drivers on the roads, but I don't let it affect me mentally and make poor decisions while I'm in traffic. I don't rage at people when I get cut off or someone carelessly pulls out in front of me. I have to think and act quickly and clearly and remain in control at all times.

High stress jobs are just not for everybody.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

They shouldn't be a cop if they're not mentally fit to handle the stress of that job. Those mentally unfit cops need to be removed.
I'm not saying being a cop is an easy job by any stretch, but if you're making poor decisions based on emotions or fear, then clearly being a cop in not a job they should have.

I drive a semi truck everyday and I have to deal with the shittiest, rudest and dumbest drivers on the roads, but I don't let it affect me mentally and make poor decisions while I'm in traffic. I don't rage at people when I get cut off or someone carelessly pulls out in front of me. I have to think and act quickly and clearly and remain in control at all times.

High stress jobs are just not for everybody.

We I dont know I wasn't there, nor were you, the courts will decide the outcome based on more detail. best not judge on media reports.

 

[Rob Roy]

They shouldn't be a cop if they're not mentally fit to handle the stress of that job. Those mentally unfit cops need to be removed.
I'm not saying being a cop is an easy job by any stretch, but if you're making poor decisions based on emotions or fear, then clearly being a cop in not a job they should have.

I drive a semi truck everyday and I have to deal with the shittiest, rudest and dumbest drivers on the roads, but I don't let it affect me mentally and make poor decisions while I'm in traffic. I don't rage at people when I get cut off or someone carelessly pulls out in front of me. I have to think and act quickly and clearly and remain in control at all times.

High stress jobs are just not for everybody.

Except to be "mentally fit" to be a cop, you have to be ignorant and/or dishonest and willing to believe in the impossible, not to mention having an i.q. that isn't too high is helpful to being hired.

Cops are said to "protect people", as in the general populace. That's dishonest and evasive, designed to obfuscate reality. Not to mention there is ample case law declaring cops have no duty to protect anyone. Their job is revenue collection and law enforcement.

If your pay is derived thru an involuntary process and not consensual voluntary market measures, that pay is taken from people under threat of force. That's exactly how a mugger makes money too. Yet we don't thank muggers for their service do we ?

In any other circumstance if another person, not a cop, told you he was protecting you, but didn't give you any real choice not to pay for his "service" you would immediately recognize that as what it is, extortion. Renaming an action based on who the perpetrator is, is absurd and Orwellian.

As far as the low i.q. , people with higher reasoning ability and that question orders rather than following them usually are not hired as cops. Robert Jordan, a cop applicant in Connecticut wasn't hired because he was "too intelligent".

All the training in the world won't change the facts above.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

Except to be "mentally fit" to be a cop, you have to be ignorant and/or dishonest and willing to believe in the impossible, not to mention having an i.q. that isn't too high is helpful to being hired.

Cops are said to "protect people", as in the general populace. That's dishonest and evasive, designed to obfuscate reality. Not to mention there is ample case law declaring cops have no duty to protect anyone. Their job is revenue collection and law enforcement.

If your pay is derived thru an involuntary process and not consensual voluntary market measures, that pay is taken from people under threat of force. That's exactly how a mugger makes money too. Yet we don't thank muggers for their service do we ?

In any other circumstance if another person, not a cop, told you he was protecting you, but didn't give you any real choice not to pay for his "service" you would immediately recognize that as what it is, extortion. Renaming an action based on who the perpetrator is, is absurd and Orwellian.

As far as the low i.q. , people with higher reasoning ability and that question orders rather than following them usually are not hired as cops. Robert Jordan, a cop applicant in Connecticut wasn't hired because he was "too intelligent".

All the training in the world won't change the facts above.

Why are you so Hairy?

 

[Rob Roy]

Why are you so Hairy?

Evolution, it's hard to escape it.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

Evolution, it's hard to escape it.


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I have hairy legs so I see now where it comes from. my family tree

 

[Justin-case]

Except to be "mentally fit" to be a cop, you have to be ignorant and/or dishonest and willing to believe in the impossible, not to mention having an i.q. that isn't too high is helpful to being hired.

Cops are said to "protect people", as in the general populace. That's dishonest and evasive, designed to obfuscate reality. Not to mention there is ample case law declaring cops have no duty to protect anyone. Their job is revenue collection and law enforcement.

If your pay is derived thru an involuntary process and not consensual voluntary market measures, that pay is taken from people under threat of force. That's exactly how a mugger makes money too. Yet we don't thank muggers for their service do we ?

In any other circumstance if another person, not a cop, told you he was protecting you, but didn't give you any real choice not to pay for his "service" you would immediately recognize that as what it is, extortion. Renaming an action based on who the perpetrator is, is absurd and Orwellian.

As far as the low i.q. , people with higher reasoning ability and that question orders rather than following them usually are not hired as cops. Robert Jordan, a cop applicant in Connecticut wasn't hired because he was "too intelligent".

All the training in the world won't change the facts above.

You can try to justify not paying taxes for this reason or that reason, but we all know it's just because you're cheap.

Pay your taxes you cheap fraud.

 

[Rob Roy]

You can try to justify not paying taxes for this reason or that reason, but we all know it's just because you're cheap.

Pay your taxes you cheap fraud.

The onus of proving why it's okay to be extorted from and somehow that qualifies as "protection" is on you, Slave.

Even if I were a cheap fraud, how does your laughable declaration, refute my points, Bonehead ?

 

[Budley Doright]

Texas cops do seem to suck in a disproportionate manner

Is it their training, or is it something else- cultural perhaps

Not sure if the numbers of cops in Texas that are fucked but my work place is rife with mental struggles, 1 in 10 suffer some kind of mental crisis that effects their work. Being a cop and dealing with the uncertainty of the next call, man with gun, shots fired, family dead in a car accident, child abuse case, I can see the numbers being way higher. Then you get the assholes that call them slave masters when handed a ticket ........ Rob....... cough. I get that they sometimes blow a gasket. Still they need to uphold the law, not kill people. Also why would cops not be charged and convicted of 2nd degree murder, the intent to kill is always there when they shoot into the chest cavity, as trained? On a side note I was talking to friends who recently moved to South Florida and she belongs to a mothers group, their last discussion was where do you put your gun after you have a baby. They were wondering about putting it in the diaper bag. What in the flying fuck? Where do I put my handgun when out with the baby? You guys have a huge hole to climb out of.

 

[Renfro]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/13/fort-worth-shooting-police-release-video-family-demands-justice/3968377002/

just wow....wtf police? unless that video shows her stabbing her nephew....this is just a load of shit...if this cop gets off with anything short of a murder conviction, fort worth deserves the riots it'll get, and more

Yeah I saw that on TV and it's crazy. The police video showed it was fast. Cop said it looked like she had a weapon. They did find a gun in the home but they don't say where it was found. A tip to everyone, close your curtains or get shot.

 

[Rob Roy]

Still they need to uphold the law, not kill people.

Let's say in the "upholding of the law" a cop is doing something which is wrong, and a brave person fails to go along with the cop, who is enforcing the statutory, but wrongful law... Will the cops ultimately kill a person that person for failing to kowtow to them? Yes. They will.

So, what you're saying is obedience to "authority" is a higher virtue than actually standing up for what is right. Cough cough.

 

[hanimmal]

Let's say in the "upholding of the law" a cop is doing something which is wrong, and a brave person fails to go along with the cop, who is enforcing the statutory, but wrongful law... Will the cops ultimately kill a person that person for failing to kowtow to them? Yes. They will.

So, what you're saying is obedience to "authority" is a higher virtue than actually standing up for what is right. Cough cough.

When standing up for whats right doesn't mean you get to always

have no consequences for it.

 

[Rob Roy]

When standing up for whats right doesn't mean you get to always

have no consequences for it.

You can't vote something which isn't true, into being true. You can't vote something which isn't right into being (morally) right.

Today's "authority worshippers" will be revealed in the future as nonsensical as "earth is the center of the universe" people are viewed now.

 

[hanimmal]

You can't vote something which isn't true, into being true. You can't vote something which isn't right into being (morally) right.

Today's "authority worshippers" will be revealed in the future as nonsensical as "earth is the center of the universe" people are viewed now.

I know there is something in here that is wrong, but I am too tired atm to figure it out.