wow, WTF police?

[scumrot derelict]

i almost knee jerked - wrote something trying to defend myself, but honestly there is no defending the incredbily dumb shit i did when i was a kid.

i would be totally lying if i said i dont have regrets. and you're right, the punishments should have been harsher. thanks for letting me spill my guts abt it though, i think it's cathartic to talk ab that kind of stuff sometimes.

 

[Rob Roy]

i'm white, and i've never shot one person of color...and have no plans to in the near future. i hate to make plans more than a couple of weeks ahead though, never know when the apocalypse will happen and everyone is suddenly edible.
apparently i've ignored "culture" enough to not want to shoot anyone through a window, no matter what color they are.
you just need to breed more people like me, socially inept assholes who question everything everyone tells them, and who consider most laws to be general guidelines for staying out of trouble, and not rules to live by.

People are edible even without an apocalypse, just saying.

 

[Fogdog]

i almost knee jerked - wrote something trying to defend myself, but honestly there is no defending the incredbily dumb shit i did when i was a kid.

i would be totally lying if i said i dont have regrets. and you're right, the punishments should have been harsher. thanks for letting me spill my guts abt it though, i think it's cathartic to talk ab that kind of stuff sometimes.

Yeah, I almost bit and replied to that piece of ignorance too.

 

[scumrot derelict]

I liked the debate last night when the democrats were talking about sending the police at the citizens for their guns but then 5 minutes later talking about how the police is bad.

Can you post a clip showing when this event happened, please? Maybe I was watching a different debate, but pretty sure that's not what I saw at all.

 

[Budley Doright]

i don't think they did you a favor dropping the charges...and i'm not making a stupid joke. i don't like a lot of the laws, but if i get caught breaking them, i know what's coming. letting kids off is teaching them that they can break the rules and get away with it, if they have a pathetic enough story and can make a good enough sad puppy face....i say they get the full penalty every time, and learn that sad puppy face means shit to the rest of the world

So don’t take in to consideration the back story? Just prosecute to the full extent of the law? What about the kid who gets busted for an ounce of pot in an illegal state? What about the Mexican who has been here his whole like but at 18 gets busted and is made to go back to Mexico? You voted for Trump didn’t you lol.

 

[Budley Doright]

I liked the debate last night when the democrats were talking about sending the police at the citizens for their guns but then 5 minutes later talking about how the police is bad.

“The police is bad”.......oh my!

 

[Rob Roy]

I liked the debate last night when the democrats were talking about sending the police at the citizens for their guns but then 5 minutes later talking about how the police is bad.
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Can you post a clip showing when this event happened, please? Maybe I was watching a different debate, but pretty sure that's not what I saw at all.

Anybody who advocates for political "gun control" is not for reducing threats using guns. That is self evident.

Guns will be used to enforce any gun control laws won't they? Or do gun threats by Police, backing up Politicians unconstitutional edicts not count as "gun violence" ?

Do you believe cops have rights you do not and their violent threats are somehow not violent threats ?

 

[Fogdog]

This line of argument really pisses me off. I didn't read the article but the headline says enough.

Who would ever be a cop?

If Officer Aaron Dean is guilty of murder, what’s next? Should we charge doctors with murder when they make mistakes and someone dies? Is professional malpractice really now a strict liability offense for murder whenever someone dies?

chicago.suntimes.com

Who would ever be a cop?
If Officer Aaron Dean is guilty of murder, what’s next? Should we charge doctors with murder when they make mistakes and someone dies? Is professional malpractice really now a strict liability offense for murder whenever someone dies?


Who would ever be a cop? Goddamn. A cop shot a woman through her window for looking out because she heard noises of somebody rustling about in her back yard. Seems that she lawfully had a gun ready just for that situation. Not an excuse. I'm all for people like that cop deciding that peace officer is not a career for them because they are afraid they can't handle it. I'm all for prosecuting him for murder 2 because that's what a civilian would be charged for.

We need better people than him on our police forces and no doubt that people will still want to become peace officers if that coward is brought to justice.

 

[scumrot derelict]

Guns will be used to enforce any gun control laws won't they?

Most likely.

Or do gun threats by Police, backing up Politicians unconstitutional edicts not count as "gun violence" ?

All legitimate claims of gun violence should be seriously considered and the proper legal rammifications and punishments for carrying out any violent acts with a millitary assault style weapon, or otherwsie should be prosecuted and the criminal involved should face punishment.

Do you believe cops have rights you do not and their violent threats are somehow not violent threats ?

This is a tricky question. OFC course they are given more leniency in the eyes of the law and that can be devastating to anyone who's seen or been a legitimate victim of gun violence, but even if you read my poorly posed question above, you'd know that i agree with anyone who believes police brutality is a disgusting thing that should be addressed immediately.

There is a another dumb thread i posted just yesterday abt the difference between cops and pigs. Give it a read?

the difference bewtween cops and pigs

Cops do their job. Pigs think they're god. Use their power to fuck you over when they think no one is looking. Be vigilant. If you see a MAGA pig taking their power to extremes, say something. if you are a victim of MAGA pig brutality, say something. -Write down a legitimate and legible...

rollitup.org

 

[scumrot derelict]

capitalism creates such a division between the rich and the poor, that this surplus population is created, and government solution has been their containment for increasing petty offenses.

sometimes i feel like we should just be fucking burning all these for-profit prisons down.

 

[scumrot derelict]

"financial quest for new frontiers to build a bigger cage" sort of thing

 

[Rob Roy]

This is a tricky question.

No. It's not a tricky question. Police do not have rights that nonpolice don't have. None. Zero.

Also when police engage in actions that would be wrong for you or me to do, the police are wrong.

Please don't confuse legality / illegality bullshit with right and wrong, it makes me think you've been brainwashed or something.

 

[scumrot derelict]

No. It's not a tricky question. Police do not have rights that nonpolice don't have. None. Zero.

Also when police engage in actions that would be wrong for you or me to do, the police are wrong.

Please don't confuse legality / illegality bullshit with right and wrong, it makes me think you've been brainwashed or something.

I mean you can intentionally mischaracterize my honest repsone if you want, but we both know each other -- and you know that I'm not completely retarded when it comes to this thing.

--appeal to friendship, (possiby also ad populum?)
--origins
--more special pleading

I'm getting worse at this lol.

 

[Rob Roy]

I mean you can intentionally mischaracterize my honest repsone if you want, but we both know each other -- and you know that I'm not completely retarded when it comes to this thing.

--appeal to friendship, (possiby also ad populum?)
--origins
--more special pleading

I'm getting worse at this lol.

I didn't mischaracterize your response, you did a good job of equivocating all by yourself.

It's not a tricky question, it's a simple question. Badges and costumes don't grant extra rights, neither do silly laws. Yes, I know you're not completely retarded.

Which part of my response is inaccurate ?

 

[Rob Roy]

I'm all for people like that cop deciding that peace officer is not a career for them

Except, Police officers aren't peace officers. It's easy to disprove that they are.

Police can and do enforce all laws, they even swear to do it. Yet many laws have nothing to do with keeping the peace and the law itself sanctifies aggression AGAINST peaceful people.

I'm all for Peace officers, but a person who agrees to enforce all laws, can never be a "peace officer". It's impossible.

 

[scumrot derelict]

I didn't mischaracterize your response, you did a good job of equivocating all by yourself.

It's not a tricky question, it's a simple question. Badges and costumes don't grant extra rights, neither do silly laws. Yes, I know you're not completely retarded.

Which part of my response is inaccurate ?

You were teasing - because you obviously understand the point I was trying to make.

But, if we're being way serious then fine, yes - it's not a tricky answer and my instinct to present it like one is kind of lame.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Except, Police officers aren't peace officers. It's easy to disprove that they are.

Police can and do enforce all laws, they even swear to do it. Yet many laws have nothing to do with keeping the peace and the law itself sanctifies aggression AGAINST peaceful people.

I'm all for Peace officers, but a person who agrees to enforce all laws, can never be a "peace officer". It's impossible.

Tell it to the magistrate.

And then pay the fine, they'll even say thank you on the receipt. Look close.

 

[Rob Roy]

Tell it to the magistrate.

And then pay the fine, they'll even say thank you on the receipt. Look close.

It sounds like you've agreed with me, but can't quite bring yourself to admit to it. It must be painful for you.

 

[scumrot derelict]

kinda shocked that diplomatic immunity works so well that you can kill a guy in the uk and just be like “I declare immunity!” and then fly home. seems like some dumb movie bullshit but uhhh I guess not

 

[tangerinegreen555]

It sounds like you've agreed with me, but can't quite bring yourself to admit to it. It must be painful for you.

No, the difference in your case is Denial, Anger, Acceptance.

I just bypass the denial and anger.