Harvest results for the 660W Alibaba quantum board for $504

jonnynobody

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Glad I’m a fully licensed medical grower. Also you’re the one that said above that you wouldn’t purchase anything that wasn’t UL listed :bigjoint:
Same here. Without turning myself into a quotation nazi I believe that was my response to GwHiliker in regards to purchasing 20 of the lights for a commercial gardening application. A UL certification would certainly make me feel more confident in my purchase if I were spending $10,000. The reality of my situation is I spent $504. For that amount of money I'm not losing any sleep over UL certification.
 

jonnynobody

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As a guys who's bought from bava... never again lol the customer service is meh and they dont really build the boards the best, a bit of bent metal amd a broke of peice when I recieved my first quantum board from them
Is bava a merchant on Alibaba? I experienced no quality issues with my unit from the merchant I ordered from. It arrived in pristine condition.
 

jonnynobody

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Nope I know for a fact insurance wont insure non certified electrical equipment for a 70%electricity driven industry
I don't think any insurance company can legally insure you against losses when your business is federally illegal. Any marijuana cultivation in the US is federally illegal. The feds are just turning a blind eye to the will of the people changing State laws.
 

Gwhiliker

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I don't think any insurance company can legally insure you against losses when your business is federally illegal. Any marijuana cultivation in the US is federally illegal. The feds are just turning a blind eye to the will of the people changing State laws.
you are required to have insurance on most commercial applications, as most dispensaries run legally under state law the state laws require insurance for fires and other such cases. weather or not its federally legal doesn't make a damned bit of difference with the fact most every legal state has 200+ legal dispensaries and just as many grow opps to supply therm that all are forced to comply under rules and regulations, user most cases one of which being that you insure your equipment, and in order to do such your equipment has to be certified. trust me I've done my research...
 

jonnynobody

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you are required to have insurance on most commercial applications, as most dispensaries run legally under state law the state laws require insurance for fires and other such cases. weather or not its federally legal doesn't make a damned bit of difference with the fact most every legal state has 200+ legal dispensaries and just as many grow opps to supply therm that all are forced to comply under rules and regulations, user most cases one of which being that you insure your equipment, and in order to do such your equipment has to be certified. trust me I've done my research...
I'm afraid this is out of my area of expertise and I cannot speak intelligently on the matter. I am however very happy with the performance of my light :)
 

Gwhiliker

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I'm afraid this is out of my area of expertise and I cannot speak intelligently on the matter. I am however very happy with the performance of my light :)
these lights kill it for at home usage, like I said for at home they blow the competitors out of the water for price/performance ratios :weed: :bigjoint:
 

jonnynobody

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these lights kill it for at home usage, like I said for at home they blow the competitors out of the water for price/performance ratios :weed: :bigjoint:
I am still awaiting a response from the merchant I ordered from on 'baba regarding UL certification. I just did a brief google on insurance for the cannabis industry and there seem to be quite a few options. This is one I ran across that came up first:
http://leafguardins.com/#insurance

Your point is valid.

It looks like my assumptions about the legality of insuring those business was incorrect. Assumptions will do you in every time. A friend of mine I grew up with made a lot of assumptions about women in our early 20's. "She looks like a good clean girl. Of course I didn't use a condom." The next week. "Yeah, so I got chlamydia from that dirty fucking whore." Assumptions :)
 

Gwhiliker

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I am still awaiting a response from the merchant I ordered from on 'baba regarding UL certification. I just did a brief google on insurance for the cannabis industry and there seem to be quite a few options. This is one I ran across that came up first:
http://leafguardins.com/#insurance

Your point is valid.

It looks like my assumptions about the legality of insuring those business was incorrect. Assumptions will do you in every time. A friend of mine I grew up with made a lot of assumptions about women in our early 20's. "She looks like a good clean girl. Of course I didn't use a condom." The next week. "Yeah, so I got chlamydia from that dirty fucking whore." Assumptions :)
I'm trying to start a commercial cultivation within the next couple years so more knowledge=more power
 

jonnynobody

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I received a response from the vendor on 'baba. The units are not presently UL certified. The rep stated their UL certification is underway. Accuracy of that information is a real coin toss. The light performs exceptionally well. It's unfortunate it isn't presently UL certified. However, that won't stop me from buying another one should I ever be in the market for another unit. This has peaked my interest a bit. I'll be reading up a bit more over the next few days on UL certification and what it actually entails. What is the certification specifically verifying?

A little food for thought on this whole UL certification - any DIY kit is technically not UL certified. Sure the drivers can be UL certified, but nobody is certifying your unit and all of your electrical connections. You connect all the parts and plug it in. If it works you start growing with it. If it continues working you keep growing with it. GreenGene has the best and most articulate DIY light bar how to video on the web, and it is one sexy piece of equipment when it's all put together. It's not UL certified, and I don't think anyone using that DIY build or any other for that matter gives a hoot. So there's that :)
 

Gwhiliker

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I received a response from the vendor on 'baba. The units are not presently UL certified. The rep stated their UL certification is underway. Accuracy of that information is a real coin toss. The light performs exceptionally well. It's unfortunate it isn't presently UL certified. However, that won't stop me from buying another one should I ever be in the market for another unit. This has peaked my interest a bit. I'll be reading up a bit more over the next few days on UL certification and what it actually entails. What is the certification specifically verifying?

A little food for thought on this whole UL certification - any DIY kit is technically not UL certified. Sure the drivers can be UL certified, but nobody is certifying your unit and all of your electrical connections. You connect all the parts and plug it in. If it works you start growing with it. If it continues working you keep growing with it. GreenGene has the best and most articulate DIY light bar how to video on the web, and it is one sexy piece of equipment when it's all put together. It's not UL certified, and I don't think anyone using that DIY build or any other for that matter gives a hoot. So there's that :)
also why DIY isn't viable for commercial applications. the standards are just making sure the mass-manufactured products don't combust on their own. are safe and are well manufactured.
 

NukaKola

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i say reign supreme for the 200-1000$ price difference you give up for a bit of time dealing with customer service, you use meijiu so I'm sure you know linda is on top of her shit with customer service if the issue ever arises! just takes for fucking ever for shipping. nice thing with most of these leds though is no moving parts so nothing tends to break. maybe a melted diode here or there but as far as what I've read there doesn't seem to be any issues of that with meijiu at least
I wonder what causes Meijius orders to take so long. Are they backed up in orders or is the actual shipping part that takes so long? My Kingbrite order was shipped to SoCal in 6 days.
 

bodhipop

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I wonder what causes Meijius orders to take so long. Are they backed up in orders or is the actual shipping part that takes so long? My Kingbrite order was shipped to SoCal in 6 days.
Do you have a link to your specific 240w btw? Bk was kind enough to link me to his meijiu. Going to snag both after that build you helped me with.
 

NukaKola

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My older brother sold cars back in the day. He knows a lot about bullshit and people. It's the nature of the business :) When I went shopping for my first nice car I was very impressed with the Kia / Hyundai 10 year warranty on the power train and 5 years on the bumper to bumper. As soon as I mentioned the H word to my brother the look of "what the fuck" washed over his face as his head began shaking back and forth. He explained that Kia's and Hyundai's are complete trash from inception to manufacturer. The company moves those pieces of trash because they slap a long term warranty on it to convince stupid bottom feeder consumers with shitty credit (Kia's bread and butter) that their cars must be built to the highest standards. Consumers are stupid and easily manipulated. My brother then explained why I should buy a Toyota, Honda, or a Nissan. He explained while the warranty may not be as good as Kia / Hyundai the car will last longer, be built better, and have a higher resale for the aforementioned reasons. Needless to say I bought a Toyota and couldn't be happier with my choice.

Buy the product that does the job the best, will last the longest, and gives you the most value for your money spent. It's really no more complicated than that, but slick salesman are great bullshitters :)

Edit: My personal feeling is the US based manufacturer's are significantly overcharging for their boards. Their selling point is that they are US based and they will get a replacement overnight shipped to you in the event of a failure under warranty. Again, why not just do business with a China based manufacturer and get twice the volume of lights for the same amount of money spent with a US based manufacturer? For me this is simply about getting the most value for my money spent and not paying more for something than it's worth.
Fun fact: Kia and Hyundai are under the same company and most their vehicles share the same chassis/engines other than their flagship models. They are actually more reliable than Honda’s currently. We used to have 3 civics in the family and now have 3 Hyundai’s.

I’m a die hard 90’s Honda fan but they have been going down the drain as of late. I would 110% take a Veloster N over a Civic type R and it’s like $12k cheaper. Hyundai stole Albert Bierman from BMW’s M division and had him design it. 10yr 100k mile warranty with track days covered.

You absolutely can’t go wrong with Toyota though, they are as reliable as it gets. Just wish they didn’t pretty much abandon the performance market. I’d love for them to make a TRD corolla hatch with 300+hp or a TRD GT 86 that actually has some horsepower. The TRD models actually used to have good performance and now it’s just a badge with some cosmetic upgrades, kind of a shame.
 
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NukaKola

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Do you have a link to your specific 240w btw? Bk was kind enough to link me to his meijiu. Going to snag both after that build you helped me with.
I got two of these, they are the double heatsink model. I went this route because I wanted them to cover a 3x3 instead of 2x4.

 
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