Another Murder Of An African American Because of Fucked Up Laws At The Hands Of A Cop!

TrippleDip

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Dude, you AREN'T arguing that Covid is less of a risk than melanoma, are you?
No, I'm saying someone who gets covid and gets sick (without prior vaccination and existing memory b cells) is less likely to get cancer for a number of years. Same with the flu.

Not saying that you will get cancer if you get vaccinated or anything like that either. Just interesting how vaccines are this magic gift from god with no hazards and downsides according to most.
 

mooray

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Link goes to reuters who don't back up the 100% figure. Let me explain how these trials work because you obviously misunderstand. They vaccinate some number of people, then they wait for some number of hospitalizations, then the calculate what percentage recieved the vaccine. If all the hospitalizations were from the unvaccinated group then the vaccine is "100% effective". This in no way shape or form means that it prevents hospitalization or death although it might mean it makes it less likely or it makes the symptoms less severe

There is an ongoing or upcoming challenge trial in the uk which should answer some of these questions.
Since you're being snotty, I feel the need to correct you that vaccine effectivity ≠ side effects. You're treating two separate measures as being the same. We understand your point, but technically, that's not how the trials work.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Any evidence the vaccine prevents death? No. The only trials have looked at minor symptoms because they don't go infecting people but rather wait for them to become infected. The vase majority of those will only have mild symptoms. The vaccine is not proven to prevent death, or getting covid, or spreading covid, just proven to be whatever % "effective" in preventing mild cases or making the symptoms un noticeable in mild cases.

Any evidence the vaccine will protect yoi from these variants? From future variants?
Do you even have a point? Other than the one on your head?
Why are you here?
I've got some ideas and the more you post the clearer they become.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Since you're being snotty, I feel the need to correct you that vaccine effectivity ≠ side effects. You're treating two separate measures as being the same. We understand your point, but technically, that's not how the trials work.
Don't bother to be polite, it's not like yer dealing with a human being. There's no heart to hurt, so no harm done, this guy is like playing call of duty for me, slaughter without harming anybody, trust me, there's nobody there, it's rather empty inside.
 

TrippleDip

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Do you even have a point?
No, not really. I for one am excited and interested in watching the scientific developments and this massive human experiment without precident. I was very interested in mrna and gene therapy 15 years ago but now realize we are still 50 years out. I think it can still be used relatively safely in areas with high risk of death anyways though.

I'll give it a rest, how did a trial thread end up about covid lol.

PS: your resentment and bitterness shine through the hate in your posts. I have been nothing but polite and just reminding you, if you're religious, you're damning yourself to hell by lying and promoting hate.

The fact you have not been vanned for either hate speech or incitement is telling of both the wickedness of your company and virtue of your percieved enemy. I have no doubt if someone ideologically opposed to you said half the things that you do, then you would submit an fbi tip. I hope you find peace one day sir.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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No, not really. I for one am excited and interested in watching the scientific developments and this massive human experiment without precident. I was very interested in mrna and gene therapy 15 years ago but now realize we are still 50 years out. I think it can still be used relatively safely in areas with high risk of death anyways though.

I'll give it a rest, how did a trial thread end up about covid lol.
Because I made it about covid and sucked you in to reveal what an utter idiot and liar you are.
 

mooray

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Don't bother to be polite, it's not like yer dealing with a human being. There's no heart to hurt, so no harm done, this guy is like playing call of duty for me, slaughter without harming anybody, trust me, there's nobody there, it's rather empty inside.
I definitely understand the frustration of the repetitive feigned bs and righty trolling that goes on around here, which I'm sure you've literally been dealing with for years. I'm sure I'll get there eventually, but not quite there yet.
 

Fogdog

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Do you even have a point? Other than the one on your head?
Why are you here?
I've got some ideas and the more you post the clearer they become.
He's pissed that the Chauvin trial pretty much called him a liar. So now, he's flailing about and willing to argue about anything, large or small. Mostly small, given his current line of disagreement.

"If we let people get Covid, fewer will get melanoma"

It would be funny if people weren't actually dying but cult of Trump lives for death. So, it's all good to them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I definitely understand the frustration of the repetitive feigned bs and righty trolling that goes on around here, which I'm sure you've literally been dealing with for years. I'm sure I'll get there eventually, but not quite there yet.
Just follow the lead of the folks who make sense and appear to give a fuck about others and their country.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He's pissed that the Chauvin trial pretty much called him a liar. So now, he's flailing about and willing to argue about anything, large or small. Mostly small, given his current line of disagreement.

"If we let people get Covid, fewer will get melanoma"

It would be funny if people weren't actually dying but cult of Trump lives for death. So, it's all good to them.
I though I'd get him off Floyd's back and onto covid where we can see how stupid he is in more stark terms when in the land of facts.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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No, not really. I for one am excited and interested in watching the scientific developments and this massive human experiment without precident. I was very interested in mrna and gene therapy 15 years ago but now realize we are still 50 years out. I think it can still be used relatively safely in areas with high risk of death anyways though.

I'll give it a rest, how did a trial thread end up about covid lol.

PS: your resentment and bitterness shine through the hate in your posts. I have been nothing but polite and just reminding you, if you're religious, you're damning yourself to hell by lying and promoting hate.

The fact you have not been vanned for either hate speech or incitement is telling of both the wickedness of your company and virtue of your percieved enemy. I have no doubt if someone ideologically opposed to you said half the things that you do, then you would submit an fbi tip. I hope you find peace one day sir.
You've been an asshole and a troll who spreads disinformation that kills people and harms the country. You have no facts and you have no arguments, only malicious bullshit. Who needs insults when you are trying to kill people and undermine confidence and trust in the science and medical technology that is saving lives on a massive scale. Your antisocial and anti science intentions shine through every one your posts with a blinding brightness. Your intention is to murder people, including children with disinformation, not to warn them of reasonable risks, everybody knows this and you are not fooling anybody here. Perhaps you can murder a few people in your real life with this bullshit and might have better luck with friends, but you don't have any.
 

Kassiopeija

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No, I'm saying someone who gets covid and gets sick (without prior vaccination and existing memory b cells) is less likely to get cancer for a number of years. Same with the flu.
How can you say that? Cancer requires long term-studies and Covid isn't long around, and because of Covid, alot of statistical hospital data skewed. So is that your theory? I understand the relation & importance of a strong immune system, but that is where the relationship between a virus and cancer ends. There ARE cancer-causing viruses, and most viruses stay forever in your body doing permanently low damage, or the infection took something with it, health lost forever.

He's pissed that the Chauvin trial pretty much called him a liar. So now, he's flailing about and willing to argue about anything, large or small. Mostly small, given his current line of disagreement.
Like I voiced before in another thread back then, clearly a murder. Back then most of you guys where like fearfull, rather hopeless, convinced this psychopath doesn't even get convicted "it may not be even a crime" IRRC... back then I was like "damn these ppl must live in another world, or are brainwashed, or what kind of an education do these even get...?"

but the additional scenes shown at the trial convinced me otherwise - as it's been clear to the bystanders - even kids. Someone should've/could've shot Chauvin in an act of civil duty - such is the law of self-defense. You can take the next higher level of force/violence to prevent a violent ongoing crime.

Some of the extremely biased members of the movement against police brutality aren't doing the movement a favour by not knowing this - the latest shooting of that girl raining a knife was self-defense. She was in verge of stabbing that girl, not listening. If that officer couldn't shoot, then they never can.
 

Fogdog

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How can you say that? Cancer requires long term-studies and Covid isn't long around, and because of Covid, alot of statistical hospital data skewed. So is that your theory? I understand the relation & importance of a strong immune system, but that is where the relationship between a virus and cancer ends. There ARE cancer-causing viruses, and most viruses stay forever in your body doing permanently low damage, or the infection took something with it, health lost forever.


Like I voiced before in another thread back then, clearly a murder. Back then most of you guys where like fearfull, rather hopeless, convinced this psychopath doesn't even get convicted "it may not be even a crime" IRRC... back then I was like "damn these ppl must live in another world, or are brainwashed, or what kind of an education do these even get...?"

but the additional scenes shown at the trial convinced me otherwise - as it's been clear to the bystanders - even kids. Someone should've/could've shot Chauvin in an act of civil duty - such is the law of self-defense. You can take the next higher level of force/violence to prevent a violent ongoing crime.

Some of the extremely biased members of the movement against police brutality aren't doing the movement a favour by not knowing this - the latest shooting of that girl raining a knife was self-defense. She was in verge of stabbing that girl, not listening. If that officer couldn't shoot, then they never can.
You do ramble on.

But, yeah, Chauvin is a murderer and he got the conviction he deserved. Still a long way to go in terms of equity in our justice system but yesterday was a good day.

I'm looking forward to hearing guilty verdicts when Trump is up for his crimes too. Also the hundreds more sentences of guilty when the people who attacked the Capitol Buildings in a seditious act see their days of senseless violence end in court. It's about time that traitorous Republicans (oxymoron) are pronounced guilty. Chauvin was a start. These are good times.
 

hanimmal

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How can you say that? Cancer requires long term-studies and Covid isn't long around, and because of Covid, alot of statistical hospital data skewed. So is that your theory? I understand the relation & importance of a strong immune system, but that is where the relationship between a virus and cancer ends. There ARE cancer-causing viruses, and most viruses stay forever in your body doing permanently low damage, or the infection took something with it, health lost forever.
It is always fascinating how sure people are when they say things. It will take a lot of people a lot of time to do the work to actually be as sure as he seems.


but the additional scenes shown at the trial convinced me otherwise - as it's been clear to the bystanders - even kids.
Yeah they really covered it well for the world to see. It would have been an incredible injustice if he got off.


Someone should've/could've shot Chauvin in an act of civil duty - such is the law of self-defense. You can take the next higher level of force/violence to prevent a violent ongoing crime.
While it is horrible a man was murdered, I am very thankful that they did not do that and more people were not hurt/killed because of Chauvin's need to dominate that situation.


Some of the extremely biased members of the movement against police brutality aren't doing the movement a favour by not knowing this - the latest shooting of that girl raining a knife was self-defense.
I would question who you mean are 'extremely biased' people.

If you mean people online, then who knows why/how they formed what they are saying in a online chat, or even if it is a mix up in what each other are actual saying. Or really, even if they are a person and not just another troll.

She was in verge of stabbing that girl, not listening. If that officer couldn't shoot, then they never can.
You are technically correct, based on the footage that cop was afraid that the other person was going to be stabbed and fired and killed that girl.

But it is the lack of information that the cop had that led to him taking her life within seconds of getting on the scene.

You do not know that she was on the verge of stabbing that girl based on what I saw in the video. It does look like it, and I have no question that will be what the officer is ultimately going to win any legal issues with this.

But after the time lapse of the cop getting to the scene and the phone call nobody was stabbed/cut that I have read/heard about. That tells me that it would likely be a troubled kid lashing out threatening with the knife, or at least a very big possibility based on my own life experiences. But that is the thing we really don't know. Shooting her immediately defiantly took away any ability for a safe conclusion to whatever was going on there.

I understand though that the police are also in far more dangerous situations regularly than I have ever been in, and that carries over with every interaction with the public. And there needs to be far more safeguards because they need to quit killing people.

One thing is real time intel from phones/cameras that are directed right to whoever is responding so they have the most clear picture to plan a response instead of just tossing a human at the problem with a gun and hoping for the best.
 

TrippleDip

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How can you say that? Cancer requires long term-studies and Covid isn't long around
Because covid prompts a type1 immune response and type one immune responses are cancer protective? I think you misunderstood what I said, I wasn't ragging on covid, i am not saying covid causes cancer but I am saying vaccinations increase your cancer risk as a counter example for the many people who seem to believe that "vaccinations are some magical gift from god that do good with no repercussions and no harm".
 

TrippleDip

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but the additional scenes shown at the trial convinced me otherwise
Can you explain or elaborate on what changed your mind? I mean sure when all we had was cell video for the last 7 minutes it DID look like a murder, but everything presented in court pushed it the opposite way, eg) floyd saying he can't breathe long before he gets on the ground and even before he was put in the car, floyd saying "i took too many drugs", chauvin calling him an ambulance less than a minute after he went to the ground and less than 15s after he called for his momma. The side footage that clearly shows he's on the shoulderblade/back and not neck.

What trial evidence made it look *more* like a murder than the cherry picked final 7 minutes? Also what part of the trial convinced you of the pre-meditation requirement for a murder charge?
 
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