Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

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Dryxi

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So you fabricated an alternative story to justify his actions as ANYTHING but motivated by racism? Why would you do that? Oh wait, I already know.
Because not everything has to do with race even when the interaction is between different groups? Could have been, could have not. It's hypothetical either way for us past that his actions in the end were most likely unjustified either way.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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In many states masks are not required outdoors, the area he was at didn't seem packed with people, so even people worried about covid might not have a mask on outside.
If he was concerned about covid and social distancing he would have had a mask with him. He singled out of the crowd the only black girl and proceeded to strangle her with no concern about social distancing. Attempted murder. His behavior and stated motive for attack are inconsistent with logic, facts and the sequence of events. You don't just assault someone by attempting strangulation, it's attempted 2nd degree murder. I hope she at least gets his house in the lawsuit.
 

Northwood

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Because not everything has to do with race even when the interaction is between different groups?
True, he could be just a crazy misogynist who hates young people, especially black young women. You're right in that he could be a bigot as well as racist. One thing I can say is that for sure is that he wasn't scared of covid!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Brazil variant is more dangerous to kids from my reading and there's another one out of India that's worry some too. I'll be vaccinated on Saturday and most older Americans are protected already, in a month everyone over 18 who wants a vaccine should have at least one dose in them and 80% protection (with mRNAs). The kids will be another matter though and these other variants look to be more lethal and contagious for them. Another reason to heap on the heat for those adults who refuse vaccination out of selfish stupidity. Educate and convince as many as we can, but there should be consequences to like work, travel, concert & sports venues, schools, contact with children and of course pissing off parents with children.

As more adults are protected they will become less and less concerned about the unvaccinated, but if they have kids it might be a different story. If it wasn't for kids, I'd say let Darwin sort the stupid fucks out.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is just the start, as people realize the threat that new variants pose to young people and especially children who can't be vaccinated for many months and perhaps not until next year. Wear a mask, even if vaccinated and you are gonna be around kids and tell the unvaccinated to get lost and stay away from them.
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California public universities plan to require Covid-19 vaccines (politico.com)

California public universities plan to require Covid-19 vaccines

SACRAMENTO — California's two public university systems announced Thursday they will require nearly 800,000 students to receive the Covid-19 vaccine as soon as this fall in the nation's most sweeping higher education testing requirement.

California State University and University of California proposed the requirement for students, faculty and staff for the fall 2021 semester — contingent on full FDA approval. All told, the requirement could apply to more than 1 million people.

Both UC and CSU are planning for mostly in-person instruction when the academic year begins in August.

The timeline for full U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval remains unclear. Vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson have been administered under emergency use authorization, and the J&J shot is on hold as federal officials study rare cases of blood clots. The process for some vaccines have taken years before, though some health officials have predicted that one of the vaccines could be approved by the fall.

Students and staff would be able to seek a medical or religious exemption under the new policy, CSU officials said Thursday.

"The state of California has been a leader in the administration of Covid-19 vaccines, and Californians receiving a vaccine has led to significantly reducing the transmission of Covid-19 in our state," CSU Chancellor Joseph Castro said in a statement. "Continued vigilance will further mitigate the spread of the disease that has radically altered our lives over the past year. We will continue to strongly encourage all members of our respective university communities to receive a Covid-19 vaccination as soon as it is available to them."

A growing number of private universities have begun announcing fall vaccine requirements for students without the FDA contingency. On Thursday, that included Stanford University, whose provost announced plans for a mandate along with a regular Covid-19 test requirement for students who receive an exemption for personal or religious reasons.

Before officially adding the vaccine to CSU's existing immunization requirements, the 23-campus CSU system will meet with labor unions and student associations, officials said Thursday, adding that the policy details are still in development.

UC, which has 10 campuses including graduate-only UC San Francisco, released a "proposed policy" Thursday while encouraging students and staff to get vaccinated now.
 
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Northwood

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Wear a mask, even if vaccinated and you are gonna be around kids and tell the unvaccinated to get lost and stay away from them.
Just for clarification, that wouldn't include your own kids that live at home with you too, right? What about a divorced dad's court imposed custody every 2nd week kid? /s

Life can be so damn complicated. I've been in both situations many, many years ago. lol
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just for clarification, that wouldn't include your own kids that live at home with you too, right? What about a divorced dad's court imposed custody every 2nd week kid? /s

Life can be so damn complicated. I've been in both situations many, many years ago. lol
It would include anybody who was un vaccinated that wanted to get anywhere near your kids. If they are unvaccinated by next fall with lethal variants on the loose, forget about school until they are protected and daycare would be an issue too. If as I suspect the Brazilian variant becomes an issue, things could get serious for kids with unvaccinated clowns without masks roaming around whining about "freedom". If we can achieve a measure of herd immunity and community spread is low, they can bring almost all the testing resources to elementary schools and with mask wearing and vaccinated staff schools might be open next fall. It really depends on the spread of the variants, community levels of infection, their danger to kids under 12 and the level of vaccination.

People will get fanatical about protecting their children, remember this disease maims far more than it kills and maimed children maybe maimed for life. In Brazil the variant has killed over 1300 infants alone, so far and the hospitals are filling with kids and younger people from the UK variant that spreads among kids like wild fire, but is no more virulent than the original strain. The Brazilian variant is even more contagious and is more virulent and there are lot's of cases in North America.
 
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Fogdog

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hahaha.
The New York Post and Las Vegas Review journal.
Two bastions in journalism.
What’s next? National enquirer?
He's well known for doing that.
This is just the start, as people realize the threat that new variants pose to young people and especially children who can't be vaccinated for many months and perhaps not until next year. Wear a mask, even if vaccinated and you are gonna be around kids and tell the unvaccinated to get lost and stay away from them.
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California public universities plan to require Covid-19 vaccines (politico.com)

California public universities plan to require Covid-19 vaccines

SACRAMENTO — California's two public university systems announced Thursday they will require nearly 800,000 students to receive the Covid-19 vaccine as soon as this fall in the nation's most sweeping higher education testing requirement.

California State University and University of California proposed the requirement for students, faculty and staff for the fall 2021 semester — contingent on full FDA approval. All told, the requirement could apply to more than 1 million people.

Both UC and CSU are planning for mostly in-person instruction when the academic year begins in August.

The timeline for full U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval remains unclear. Vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson have been administered under emergency use authorization, and the J&J shot is on hold as federal officials study rare cases of blood clots. The process for some vaccines have taken years before, though some health officials have predicted that one of the vaccines could be approved by the fall.

Students and staff would be able to seek a medical or religious exemption under the new policy, CSU officials said Thursday.

"The state of California has been a leader in the administration of Covid-19 vaccines, and Californians receiving a vaccine has led to significantly reducing the transmission of Covid-19 in our state," CSU Chancellor Joseph Castro said in a statement. "Continued vigilance will further mitigate the spread of the disease that has radically altered our lives over the past year. We will continue to strongly encourage all members of our respective university communities to receive a Covid-19 vaccination as soon as it is available to them."

A growing number of private universities have begun announcing fall vaccine requirements for students without the FDA contingency. On Thursday, that included Stanford University, whose provost announced plans for a mandate along with a regular Covid-19 test requirement for students who receive an exemption for personal or religious reasons.

Before officially adding the vaccine to CSU's existing immunization requirements, the 23-campus CSU system will meet with labor unions and student associations, officials said Thursday, adding that the policy details are still in development.

UC, which has 10 campuses including graduate-only UC San Francisco, released a "proposed policy" Thursday while encouraging students and staff to get vaccinated now.
I'll just say it for the antivaxxers:

Those university communists are fascist Nazis treating antivaxxers worst than Hitler did the Jews.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Those university communists are fascist Nazis treating antivaxxers worst than Hitler did the Jews.
If this mutated shit starts killing lot's of vulnerable children and young people, they might be right one day. Except it will be a vaccine needle in the arm, instead of barbed wire and showers with a list of reluctant assholes who will be singled out for special attention for reups. We will see, but if some new variants cause asymptomatic cases and sniffles in the vaccinated and kills kids and infants, things will turn ugly. Old people dying is one thing, younger people and especially children being dead and maimed are another for most people, especially parents and grand parents.

If this goes on there could be trouble opening up elementary schools and day cares in the fall, depending on community infection levels, even if we reach herd immunity. We will see over the spring and summer, adults will be protected but the kids will not for a long time.

This old fart is going for his Pfizer tomorrow, but just because my own ass might be covered others won't be and are becoming an increasing concern, until science sorts out the real threat level to children and then it could become a major concern.
 
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