Piss poor roots in coco

bk78

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Oh and I’d like to point out. I let my coco dry out daily and only feed once a day.

I will only feed my coco when my cups dry out for the first 2 weeks of their lives, so like every second or third day?
 

PopAndSonGrows

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Oh and I’d like to point out. I let my coco dry out daily and only feed once a day.

I will only feed my coco when my cups dry out for the first 2 weeks of their lives, so like every second or third day?
Was that a genuinely helpful response??? Think you've been hacked, guy.
 

Cycad

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I used to run coco (none of your fancy expensive mixtures, just normal coco fibre) and first, I didn't 'pack it down', Just flood and drain, flood and drain. Finally, I did a clone experiment between coco and soil and the result was that the soil gave me a 30% higher yield, so I grow in (my mix of, not commercial crap) soil these days.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I used to run coco (none of your fancy expensive mixtures, just normal coco fibre) and first, I didn't 'pack it down', Just flood and drain, flood and drain. Finally, I did a clone experiment between coco and soil and the result was that the soil gave me a 30% higher yield, so I grow in (my mix of, not commercial crap) soil these days.
If you got a higher yield in soil vs coco you weren't using coco right.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Would that affect the roots? I know they look hungry, I just been cautious about bumping up the feed to fast as suffered with nitrogen toxicity in the past. They current are on an ec of 0.8 canna nutes. Tbh next feed I’m gonna just give em 0.9. Still within range for veg so fingers crossed it puts more colour into them.
It is not easy to "overwater" coco since it retains excellent air to water ratio similar to rockwool. What you do want to do is allow it to dry though when they are young so the roots have to go searching. Also try to water a little more to the outsides of the pot. Looks like that taproot and everything else shot mostly all down. If you want to accelerate the process use some teas or a root enhancer. Once you get good established roots then you can treat it like hydro all day and water multiple times.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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I used to run coco (none of your fancy expensive mixtures, just normal coco fibre) and first, I didn't 'pack it down', Just flood and drain, flood and drain. Finally, I did a clone experiment between coco and soil and the result was that the soil gave me a 30% higher yield, so I grow in (my mix of, not commercial crap) soil these days.
I am surprised because I have outgrown every one of my soil plants in smaller gallon sizes of coco. And the rate of growth is much quicker as well. Soil is easier to stay on track with though since it is amended and holds on to nutrients better. Coco can be a little more demanding.
 

bk78

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I used to run coco (none of your fancy expensive mixtures, just normal coco fibre) and first, I didn't 'pack it down', Just flood and drain, flood and drain. Finally, I did a clone experiment between coco and soil and the result was that the soil gave me a 30% higher yield, so I grow in (my mix of, not commercial crap) soil these days.
Link to your side by side please
 

Tvanmunhen

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Link to your side by side please
It would be interesting to pick apart... It's very unlikely you were able to replicate the veg cycle in soil. Something must have went wrong. I was experiencing extremely fast growth rates in During vegg. My current grow in organic has been boring and slow in vegg. If a person can vegetate a plant faster than in theory in the same time frame you should end up with twice the size of a plant during flower.
 

Star Dog

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The 1st couple of weeks they get fed when required, once they get to 3-4" tall I start feeding them more regularly then onto and a daily feeds then multiple feeds during flower.

I don't think you can over water coco but I do find you can hold seedling and clones back by feeding them to frequently.

There's different types/quality of coco some have fine particles and the ability to hold water is better to that of course fibrous coco, that difference can be used to your advantage but could work to your disadvantage depending on the environment and age/size.
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Piss poor roots it's not.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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Muffin are you mad because I said harvesting at day 50 of flower is a joke?

Oh wait it was your bro who harvests at day 50.
Good gawd you're such a grudgy old man for being like 44. Oh and i love the cross-post insult. Such a fucking pro, bud. Bravo
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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you have to water till you get about 10% runoff daily, and you have to make sure they have a place to drain to. i use 12 qt. dishtubs as catch pans, if i don't drain them off at least every other day, they fill up and the plants can't drain properly.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Did you add 30 percent perlite ? I made this mistake and it caused me some root issues. I use a mix of coco and super soil and what I realized was that without the perlite the root ball holds too much moisture in the substrate. It was not allowing it to have enough frequent wet-dry Cycles the top layer would dry out evenly but everything from the root ball down would hold too much moisture for too long just my opinion I'm no expert
there is also the PH issue from mixing coco with soil, plants in soil like the ph pretty much right at 6.5, plants in coco like it between 5.8 and 6.2, so you might be getting some weird intermittent issues with nutrient uptake
 
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