Please stop using peat products

E

EarthAngel

Member
mudballs said:
I fight with the baggers at the grocery store all the time. They're just kids doing the job the way they were told to but
Click to expand...
I'd love to support this no-peat thing, i would, it's just i know human nature...it wont stop...even if we outlawed it there's an enormous stockpile of already packaged. This is a lost cause on me, sorry.
Click to expand...
you're admittedly an ecological nihilist? yet you still muster up the balls to harass grocery baggers into personalizing your experience? why not recycle the bags yourself?
 
mudballs

mudballs

Well-Known Member
EarthAngel said:
you're admittedly an ecological nihilist? yet you still muster up the balls to harass grocery baggers into personalizing your experience? why not recycle the bags yourself?
Click to expand...
Nihlist? Yes it's all disposable, including me, you, everything...the world will balance itself when pushed to the edge and since i love God more than you, or any of the other fkn retards that complicate my daily life, i want Earth to bitch slap us even faster...but i will be able to stand in front of you and everyone here and say "bitch i did my part"
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
twentyeight.threefive said:
Yet you wouldn't consider using coco because it has to be shipped...
Click to expand...
What is the point of shipping in Coco when there is an equally good alternative produced locally and costing less? There isn't a locally produced alternative to Perlite. Having learned how Perlite and Vermiculite are produced Rice hulls appear to have a lower carbon footprint despite being shipped. But I haven't said I am going to buy it yet, I am merely investigating the implications of it.

TBH I have enough Perlite to last me for several years already and I reckon if I did buy Rice Hulls a 40L sack would last for so long it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I use 0.5L of Perlite in 13.5L of soil. So if Rice Hulls are used in a similar quantity a 40L sack would do 80 plants last for about 4 years.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
thumper60 said:
With out burning it i dont see how all this carbon is being released same with wood, coal,oil?
Click to expand...
www.newscientist.com

Peatland destruction is releasing vast amounts of CO<SUB>2</SUB>

Draining and burning the world's peat bogs emits carbon dioxide equivalent to over 10% of that released from burning fossil fuels, says a report
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com

"When peat comes into contact with air, its carbon combines with oxygen in the decomposition process, and is released as carbon dioxide."
 
OneMoreRip

OneMoreRip

Well-Known Member
oill said:
Global warming is fake...its freezing outside
Click to expand...
global warming is real. Bill nye the science guy told me so and he knows science, just look at his name. Plus he on tv so you know he’s not a douche

geo engineering fake, they just say the do it and there so many persistent con trails the sky not even blue anymore
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

Well-Known Member
speedwell68 said:
What is the point of shipping in Coco when there is an equally good alternative produced locally and costing less? There isn't a locally produced alternative to Perlite. Having learned how Perlite and Vermiculite are produced Rice hulls appear to have a lower carbon footprint despite being shipped. But I haven't said I am going to buy it yet, I am merely investigating the implications of it.

TBH I have enough Perlite to last me for several years already and I reckon if I did buy Rice Hulls a 40L sack would last for so long it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I use 0.5L of Perlite in 13.5L of soil. So if Rice Hulls are used in a similar quantity a 40L sack would do 80 plants last for about 4 years.
Click to expand...
Your locally produced medium isn't as good as coco.

You still need to have a filler shipped in for aeration.

I can have coco shipped in and used as-is.

If you were that worried about the environment you wouldn't be growing indoors at all. But of you think buying a local product is helping and making you feel better then go for it.
 
OneMoreRip

OneMoreRip

Well-Known Member
And yeah fuck me I bought a bag of peat like a dipshit. Pretty sure every cocksucker soil maker (corporation), uses peat. I’m only usin dirt from my back yard or drive to forest nearby and dig some up, probably amazing, that’s why we don’t hear about it other than must be full of parasites that will eat our plants house and families all in a day

edit to say I was ignorant at the time
 
Last edited:
conor c

conor c

Well-Known Member
speedwell68 said:
www.newscientist.com

Peatland destruction is releasing vast amounts of CO<SUB>2</SUB>

Draining and burning the world's peat bogs emits carbon dioxide equivalent to over 10% of that released from burning fossil fuels, says a report
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com

"When peat comes into contact with air, its carbon combines with oxygen in the decomposition process, and is released as carbon dioxide."
Click to expand...
Its digging too tho they say when you disturb the earth it does the same thing i remember seeing a no dig /no till thing they were talking about it and good shout for amazon didnt even think to try there lol cheers
 
hillbill

hillbill

Well-Known Member
Composted Pine bark fines or the fine stuff from Pine Bark Nuggets if they’ve been around a year or so. Many commercial mixes and more coarse mixes for shrubs are composted Pine bark based.
 
conor c

conor c

Well-Known Member
hillbill said:
Composted Pine bark fines or the fine stuff from Pine Bark Nuggets if they’ve been around a year or so. Many commercial mixes and more coarse mixes for shrubs are composted Pine bark based.
Click to expand...
You not finding it messing with your ph the needles can be pretty acidic ?
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

Well-Known Member
speedwell68 said:
What is the point of shipping in Coco when there is an equally good alternative produced locally and costing less? There isn't a locally produced alternative to Perlite. Having learned how Perlite and Vermiculite are produced Rice hulls appear to have a lower carbon footprint despite being shipped. But I haven't said I am going to buy it yet, I am merely investigating the implications of it.

TBH I have enough Perlite to last me for several years already and I reckon if I did buy Rice Hulls a 40L sack would last for so long it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I use 0.5L of Perlite in 13.5L of soil. So if Rice Hulls are used in a similar quantity a 40L sack would do 80 plants last for about 4 years.
Click to expand...
Just use coco without perlite? I don't use peat, perlite or hydrotron. Coco is light and compresses into bricks. It also grows all around the world, so shipping doesn't have to be from a single area on the other side of the globe.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
twentyeight.threefive said:
Your locally produced medium isn't as good as coco.

You still need to have a filler shipped in for aeration.

I can have coco shipped in and used as-is.

If you were that worried about the environment you wouldn't be growing indoors at all. But of you think buying a local product is helping and making you feel better then go for it.
Click to expand...
So that is it then, do nothing about the environment? I like Formula 1 and Drag Racing too, should I give them up? IMHO it is about doing what you like to do with the least impact possible.

Buying a local product is helping, this is a proven fact. I understand I can get a better yield using coco, I have seen that proven time and time again. But for me it isn't all about yield, I can produce more than enough weed for my needs using a growbag and some tomato feed. Coco is way more plug n play than soil, much less work. But I don't like that, I like to fiddle with things and learn stuff.

About 20 years ago I used to grow in Coco. Coco Coir in I gallon pots with a capillary mat, it grew me fuck tons of weed which I sold illegally to friends and family. I haven't done that in 15 years. Now it is a hobby, something I do to stop my brain turning to mush.

TBH I might not bother with anything. We grow all manner of fruit and veg in containers and don't bother with Perlite there and have no problems with drainage and aeration
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

Well-Known Member
speedwell68 said:
So that is it then, do nothing about the environment? I like Formula 1 and Drag Racing too, should I give them up? IMHO it is about doing what you like to do with the least impact possible.

Buying a local product is helping, this is a proven fact. I understand I can get a better yield using coco, I have seen that proven time and time again. But for me it isn't all about yield, I can produce more than enough weed for my needs using a growbag and some tomato feed. Coco is way more plug n play than soil, much less work. But I don't like that, I like to fiddle with things and learn stuff.

About 20 years ago I used to grow in Coco. Coco Coir in I gallon pots with a capillary mat, it grew me fuck tons of weed which I sold illegally to friends and family. I haven't done that in 15 years. Now it is a hobby, something I do to stop my brain turning to mush.

TBH I might not bother with anything. We grow all manner of fruit and veg in containers and don't bother with Perlite there and have no problems with drainage and aeration
Click to expand...
I respect trying to be eco-friendly. I grew up in a ravaged region with orange creeks due to acid mine drainage. People just dump whatever into the woods and waterways. On the other hand my son's mom grew up on a hippie commune, and I'd rather not revert back to tribal living. To me it is a balance.

Use what works best, and don't be wasteful with it. I stopped using rockwool mostly because of environmental concerns. I'm using 1/2 gallon-ish pots with coco, and I only had to expand three bricks to fill around close to 30 pots. After harvest I use the coco around my yard. It's great to fill in holes that my dog digs.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
lusidghost said:
Just use coco without perlite? I don't use peat, perlite or hydrotron. Coco is light and compresses into bricks. It also grows all around the world, so shipping doesn't have to be from a single area on the other side of the globe.
Click to expand...
I really don't want to use coco. I really like using products that are made literally in the next town. The compost I am using is made from the garden waste collected in our recycling bins and local recycling centres, taken to a depot 15 miles away, processed and sold back to the community at cost. My manure comes from a Livery stables, just up the road. A 20KG sack of rotted manure costs me £1, 150L of compost costs me £15, no delivery needed I literally drive by the point of production on my daily commute. So for £16 I have enough medium for at least a couple of full runs. The same in Coco would cost me nearly £39 plus delivery, the nearest shop that sells it is 60 miles away. With Coco I would have to use nutrients from day one, with my mix I can go for weeks on plain water and then get by on some very basic feed I can get from literally anywhere.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top