New Year's Resolutions Pertaining to Politics.

CatHedral

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The slightly stilted language, the use of phrases like “everyone was double jabbed”, the funny spellings, and the joined RIU last Thursday tenure all suggest this one is not worth your time to argue with. Reeks suspiciously of paid foreign agitator. For sure RIU is a global community, but this one smells funny.
I will say it could be a ZA idiom.
 

Budley Doright

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boosters don't do shit vs omnicron there was a party at a hotell across the border from where i live 120 people 2 just came from south africa : 70 got omnicron and 50 people from hotell got infected too. everyone was double jabbed
Boy those 120 people are lucky they got the jab, none required hospitalization, that’s great. Thank you for the link!
Oh wait I forgot …… dumbass!
 

Fogdog

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But we have already had 2-4 jabs, the vaccine that prevents us from dying and up till 3 boosters which don't work vs the new strain. You know very well what the definition of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
Congrats that you chose to get vaccinated even though you didn't understand. I raised two boys. Sometimes they just had to do what they were told even though they didn't understand. The vaccines are doing a very good job at protecting people even from the most recent virus. Maybe you should read some more on the subject.

Regarding the chestnut you cited. It's a false belief but quite commonly held. Actually, sane people quite often repeat the same thing and expect a different result.

Ever gone fishing? Swing a baseball bat at a baseball? That is such a moronic saying.
 
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CatHedral

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Congrats that you chose to get vaccinated even though you didn't understand. I raised two boys. Sometimes they just had to do what they were told even though they didn't understand. The vaccines are doing a very good job at protecting people even from the most recent virus. Maybe you should read some more on the subject.

Regarding the chestnut you cited. It's a false belief but quite commonly held. Actually, people quite often repeat the same thing and expect a different result.

Ever gone fishing? Swing a baseball bat at a baseball? That is such a moronic saying.
I believe the saying is more aimed at people who repeat a rational and deterministic process hoping for another result than the previous run(s).

Swinging at a baseball is neither rational or deterministic. The experience is earthier, more concrete. I offer this as a way to reinvest that quote attributed to Einstein with relevance.
 

CunningCanuk

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I believe the saying is more aimed at people who repeat a rational and deterministic process hoping for another result than the previous run(s).

Swinging at a baseball is neither rational or deterministic. The experience is earthier, more concrete. I offer this as a way to reinvest that quote attributed to Einstein with relevance.
Ok. I’m using it again.
 

Fogdog

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I believe the saying is more aimed at people who repeat a rational and deterministic process hoping for another result than the previous run(s).

Swinging at a baseball is neither rational or deterministic. The experience is earthier, more concrete. I offer this as a way to reinvest that quote attributed to Einstein with relevance.
People repeat the same thing and expect a different result all the time and no, they aren't crazy. It's an old saying that people like to say it because it makes them feel smart. But it's just a saying. Like the "good neighbors build good fences". It's not true but people say it like they believe it.

I doubt Einstein was the originator but maybe he said it once. These people don't think he did:

 
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CatHedral

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People repeat the same thing and expect a different result the time and no, they aren't crazy. It's an old saying people like to say it because it makes them feel smart. But it's just a saying. Like the "good neighbors build good fences". It's not true but people say it like they believe it.
I come from an academic environment. I have a bias.
 

Fogdog

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I come from an academic environment. I have a bias.
We throw dice and expect a different result. One might say that we don't throw dice exactly the same way and so we get different results each time. But to the dice thrower, they didn't do anything different. Was he insane?
 

CatHedral

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We throw dice and expect a different result. One might say that we don't throw dice exactly the same way and so we get different results each time. But to the dice thrower, they didn't do anything different. Was he insane?
I feel so covered I said deterministic. You’re describing the stochastic, whole nother thing. Dice are stochastic. Deterministic is like a good target rifle, point of aim correlates tightly with point of impact.
And then there is chaos theory. Why I’m good with different clouds every day. It is a mercy that ours is not a clockwork universe.

Oh I got into that. I suspect steep edible uptake event after gloriously greasy lunch.
 

Fogdog

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I feel so covered I said deterministic. You’re describing the stochastic, whole nother thing. Dice are stochastic. Deterministic is like a good target rifle, point of aim correlates tightly with point of impact.
And then there is chaos theory. Why I’m good with different clouds every day. It is a mercy that ours is not a clockwork universe.

Oh I got into that. I suspect steep edible uptake event after gloriously greasy lunch.
The saying is about how people act.

Determinism is an illusion. What Einstein describes as insanity is, according to quantum theory, the way the world actually works.
 
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