Well for years it was mr nice seed and serious pops and clones acquired in local ri medical scene. White Russian chronic old ssh jack herer blueberry nl5 skunk for seeds. This was probly 09ish when we would get beat by"the mail" half the time. Got plugged into a cool old guy , we all need one of those! Plant counts in ri meant switching to airpots with coco and trees to max yield "legally" this guy had some nice ones original diesel Ken's gdp an old rks like nld skunk prozac(smile) . Ended up running couple good sized grows but our patient got himself arrested selling slices to idiots and most cuts were lost in tge pre eminent shutdown. After that hooked up w a new dude with a sick spot transformed from a 3 car auto mechanic garage. He ran kush n cheese critical haze gg4 wedding cake holy grail kush etc nothing exciting. Since then I've realized that sativa dom 12 weekers are the best for me. The effect should come first and tgats been lost in tge great dessert strain takeover. The vigor and stretch of haze hybrids means less veg time and I enjoy growing ladies who can't help but produce. Tge 100 day xbh produced 12 onions under half a 300 w led. Past couple years been deep diving into the genetics and cannabinoids behind nevils work which eventually brought me to piffcoasts page. At first only tge piff s2 was available so I went for it. Tasting his clones at genetraders was an unmistakable taste and smell deja vu. To me yes clones can be expensive but spending that money one time gets you peace of mind a huge advantage with your distributors and blazing headstash. I don't kno dude personally but am a huge advocate for what he's bringing to community for home growers. He represents tge culture history and enjoyable effects the big corps will never understand. I've started a few popular haze genetics threads at mr nice which eventually git me banned. Exposing shanti for lying is easy when you've grown true haze a and c f1s. In the process of using pedimap software to create stud books online for the oldest purest progeny of nevils males. Somas g13c, a5t male of bandaidhaze, haze c, a/c male etc. Plan on using it to breed piff clones and Dutch to large seed pops such as extreme haze to rebuild primal haze lines opensource